What I cannot understand is why there is no legal redress? In one state in the USA isnt there legislation against hoaxing? I wouldnt agree with that, but do think justice is served, where hoaxing or misrepresentation does occurr and and cause harm and where the effect was more than petty, that there should be entitlement to compensation and public retraction.

In this land of legislation where is the legislation and protection under the law?.

Joe

Personally I don’t see Davis as the “lunatic fringe” but that is just me. Not am I saying you called him that, Loren. Just responding to Graybear. In fact, it would add “fuel to the fire” if we were to just dismiss him as a “lunatic.” We would be accused of engaging in the same name-calling that Davis and his ilk utilize.

If we Cryptomundians are as a group going to “stand up” and (rightfully) condemn the outrageous (and libelous, to be honest) accusations by Davis and others we have to do it by a careful and point-by-point refutation of the “evidence” he provided. And I feel the evidence has already been more than adequately dimissed and rejected. Enough to thoroughly reject any claims of “legitimacy” the man has. We cannot do this by simply dismissing him as just a “nut.” We are the “honorable” ones here, nothim.

All I’m saying is that Davis has made a total fool out of himself already. All we would be doing is “underlining the main talking points,” so to speak. “Pointing out the obvious,” so to speak. He is “hoisted by his own petard.” But since we NEED to “make a statement”—-

We should say to Davis—Put Up or Shut Up.
Produce the evidence and “Put Up.”
If you can’t, then “Shut Up.”
At least stop impugning people’s characters. And quit scurrying away when people try to have you BACK UP your so-called “evidence” and “theories.”
Have the COURAGE of your convictions, Mr. Davis.

Maybe a threat of a lawsuit from Green for defamatory statements would get him to stop?
I’m not a lawyer here—but would anybody here know if Green would have a “case” here? (Probably not, I guess).

Maybe challenge Davis to come over here and defend his statements like a man? (Which I very much doubt he will, to be honest.)

I’m serious, BTW.
Ultimately I still feel he has already impugned himself a thousand times over.
All we can do is remind people of that fact.
Let his own words damn him.
But, if you feel we need to do MORE—then what I suggested can be just a start. What would YOU suggest?

And I do get what you are saying, Loren.
I personally was saying in effect “The guy is not worth it.”
I guess he IS “worth it.”
Ok.
Then I guess I was wrong.

At least Green’s good name is “worth it”.
And the reputation and legitimacy of Cryptozoology is “worth it.”
Again—I guess I was wrong. THAT is worth defending.

Let’s just not engage in Name-Calling, Ok?
That’s going down to his “level.”

My two cents. I will go and take my medicine now.