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	<title>Comments on: Editorial: Sierra Kills ~ Folklore, Makelore, Or Fakelore?</title>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fhqwhgads:

Well, history gives me considerable grounds for pessimism.

To get this far with the collective mind of mainstream science pretty closed on this matter isn&#039;t too encouraging.

C&#039;mon, TBRC, is all I can say.  

Well, not all.  Even &quot;Finding Bigfoot&quot; seems to be spurring reports that appear as genuine as anything else I&#039;ve read.  I&#039;m only guessing from the substantial spike in current-year encounters on the BFRO database.  Although &quot;FB&quot; is regrettable, BFRO&#039;s hearts and, generally, minds seem in the right place.  One doesn&#039;t have to be a crack scientist - as &quot;FB&quot; shows they aren&#039;t - to maintain a database.  That&#039;s not Bobo talking, that&#039;s North America - the entire spectrum of race sex class literacy and socioeconomic condition.  That&#039;s virtually impossible to fake; but if it is somehow all false positives it&#039;s the Great American Novel and should get a Nobel.

Without mainstream attention it stays the way it is, unless we get stupid lucky.  But public opinion might actually get involved in this before long.  Thanks to (aaaaaargh!) television.

Until then...c&#039;mon TBRC.

So.  Less pessimistic than maybe history warrants.  (And we don&#039;t seem to have a tendency to find anything just AFTER it went extinct, although there&#039;s a sea mink tapping me on the shoulder at the moment.)

And it&#039;s been fun.  So can&#039;t fault that neither.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fhqwhgads:</p>
<p>Well, history gives me considerable grounds for pessimism.</p>
<p>To get this far with the collective mind of mainstream science pretty closed on this matter isn&#8217;t too encouraging.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, TBRC, is all I can say.  </p>
<p>Well, not all.  Even &#8220;Finding Bigfoot&#8221; seems to be spurring reports that appear as genuine as anything else I&#8217;ve read.  I&#8217;m only guessing from the substantial spike in current-year encounters on the BFRO database.  Although &#8220;FB&#8221; is regrettable, BFRO&#8217;s hearts and, generally, minds seem in the right place.  One doesn&#8217;t have to be a crack scientist &#8211; as &#8220;FB&#8221; shows they aren&#8217;t &#8211; to maintain a database.  That&#8217;s not Bobo talking, that&#8217;s North America &#8211; the entire spectrum of race sex class literacy and socioeconomic condition.  That&#8217;s virtually impossible to fake; but if it is somehow all false positives it&#8217;s the Great American Novel and should get a Nobel.</p>
<p>Without mainstream attention it stays the way it is, unless we get stupid lucky.  But public opinion might actually get involved in this before long.  Thanks to (aaaaaargh!) television.</p>
<p>Until then&#8230;c&#8217;mon TBRC.</p>
<p>So.  Less pessimistic than maybe history warrants.  (And we don&#8217;t seem to have a tendency to find anything just AFTER it went extinct, although there&#8217;s a sea mink tapping me on the shoulder at the moment.)</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s been fun.  So can&#8217;t fault that neither.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhqwhgads</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/ed-sierra-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-81762</link>
		<dc:creator>Fhqwhgads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2012 02:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;See… if you were actually looking into the matter, you’d know that Bigfoots are being seen on a daily basis, in all probability.&lt;/em&gt;

First of all, I&#039;ll let you take up with Loren the correct plural of &quot;Bigfoot&quot;. So much for &quot;looking into the matter&quot;. 

More importantly, &quot;in all probability&quot; = &quot;in my imagination&quot;.  That is ALL it means.

Besides, this hurts your case.  If Bigfoot are rare, the lack of compelling evidence is easier to accept.  One of several valid reasons people have mentioned for doubting the extraordinary claims of the Carter farm is the fact that no photos were taken, nor was any physical evidence collected.  If Bigfoot are being seen &quot;on a daily basis&quot;, why are we stuck looking at Youtube videos of pranksters in gorilla suits, or regular human beings walking too far away to be clearly identified, or thick knots of underbrush that are, in all likelihood, thick knots of underbrush?  The claim becomes as doubtful as the Carter farm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>See… if you were actually looking into the matter, you’d know that Bigfoots are being seen on a daily basis, in all probability.</em></p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;ll let you take up with Loren the correct plural of &#8220;Bigfoot&#8221;. So much for &#8220;looking into the matter&#8221;. </p>
<p>More importantly, &#8220;in all probability&#8221; = &#8220;in my imagination&#8221;.  That is ALL it means.</p>
<p>Besides, this hurts your case.  If Bigfoot are rare, the lack of compelling evidence is easier to accept.  One of several valid reasons people have mentioned for doubting the extraordinary claims of the Carter farm is the fact that no photos were taken, nor was any physical evidence collected.  If Bigfoot are being seen &#8220;on a daily basis&#8221;, why are we stuck looking at Youtube videos of pranksters in gorilla suits, or regular human beings walking too far away to be clearly identified, or thick knots of underbrush that are, in all likelihood, thick knots of underbrush?  The claim becomes as doubtful as the Carter farm.</p>
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		<title>By: Goodfoot</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/ed-sierra-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-81947</link>
		<dc:creator>Goodfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You got it!  If they&#039;ve been around hereabouts for 10,000 years or more, wouldn&#039;t it stand to reason they have a stable breeding population? Which, chicken/egg/chicken, etc., implies sizable numbers, and, I think, the aforementioned intelligence to stay out of man&#039;s way as much as possible... I&#039;ve played with figures for years, and I keep coming back regularly to a North American population range of 60,000-600,000. That top figure may sound shocking, and it very well may be wrong. But does anyone believe half a million plus intelligent hominids would have trouble hiding out in the forests, swamps and, just maybe, deserts of North America?  

The late Ivan Sanderson liked to point out that much of North America is far less known now than it was 150 years ago, during the age of exploration.  Now we have places that don&#039;t see human beings for very long periods of time. Some places probably hardly ever see one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got it!  If they&#8217;ve been around hereabouts for 10,000 years or more, wouldn&#8217;t it stand to reason they have a stable breeding population? Which, chicken/egg/chicken, etc., implies sizable numbers, and, I think, the aforementioned intelligence to stay out of man&#8217;s way as much as possible&#8230; I&#8217;ve played with figures for years, and I keep coming back regularly to a North American population range of 60,000-600,000. That top figure may sound shocking, and it very well may be wrong. But does anyone believe half a million plus intelligent hominids would have trouble hiding out in the forests, swamps and, just maybe, deserts of North America?  </p>
<p>The late Ivan Sanderson liked to point out that much of North America is far less known now than it was 150 years ago, during the age of exploration.  Now we have places that don&#8217;t see human beings for very long periods of time. Some places probably hardly ever see one.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@barncat &quot;William: That transcript is not from Edger Cayce, it’s from Douglas Cottrell, a more recent practitioner of “deep trance meditation” and is only a few years old. A recording of it can be found on youtube. The term “bigfoot” was only coined in the late 1950s as far as I know, so Edger Cayce likely never heard that word.&quot;

Thanks. That makes more sense as I was wondering how Cayce would have even known what those terms meant. I never knew about this modern version of Cayce until now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@barncat &#8220;William: That transcript is not from Edger Cayce, it’s from Douglas Cottrell, a more recent practitioner of “deep trance meditation” and is only a few years old. A recording of it can be found on youtube. The term “bigfoot” was only coined in the late 1950s as far as I know, so Edger Cayce likely never heard that word.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks. That makes more sense as I was wondering how Cayce would have even known what those terms meant. I never knew about this modern version of Cayce until now.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhqwhgads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fhqwhgads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 18:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why you should be so pessimistic.  A Bigfoot is not a subtle thing, so if a type specimen, alive or dead, is made available for study, it will be obvious.  This is very different from many other questions, such as whether or not early modern humans mated with Neanderthals, which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528783.100-interbreeding-with-neanderthals-or-simply-breeding.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;may never be definitively known&lt;/a&gt;.  And if they have a stable breeding population, there must be thousands of them, which is consistent with the number of reported sightings.  They would also be intelligent, which would go a long ways towards protecting them from human intrusion, habitat loss, and climate change -- so that they would not wink out of existence just before being described by science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why you should be so pessimistic.  A Bigfoot is not a subtle thing, so if a type specimen, alive or dead, is made available for study, it will be obvious.  This is very different from many other questions, such as whether or not early modern humans mated with Neanderthals, which <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528783.100-interbreeding-with-neanderthals-or-simply-breeding.html" rel="nofollow">may never be definitively known</a>.  And if they have a stable breeding population, there must be thousands of them, which is consistent with the number of reported sightings.  They would also be intelligent, which would go a long ways towards protecting them from human intrusion, habitat loss, and climate change &#8212; so that they would not wink out of existence just before being described by science.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, &quot;inevitable&quot; and &quot;in my lifetime&quot; are two completely different things.

After all it was &quot;inevitable&quot; that geometrical spectra would be nailed down as a neurological condition.  It wasn&#039;t so &quot;inevitable&quot; that after first being clearly reported and diagnosed, it would vanish, utterly, from the medical literature for about a century before Oliver Sacks &quot;discovered&quot; it again.

(Bindernagel uses that and similar examples to significant effect in his &quot;The Discovery of the Sasquatch.&quot;  In fact, he thinks that something fairly similar actually did happen with the sasquatch.  Worth a read.)

But this Sierra Kills story has smelled like a dumpster full of last week&#039;s tuna catch from the very beginning.  And history tells us what pretty much inevitably happens there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8220;inevitable&#8221; and &#8220;in my lifetime&#8221; are two completely different things.</p>
<p>After all it was &#8220;inevitable&#8221; that geometrical spectra would be nailed down as a neurological condition.  It wasn&#8217;t so &#8220;inevitable&#8221; that after first being clearly reported and diagnosed, it would vanish, utterly, from the medical literature for about a century before Oliver Sacks &#8220;discovered&#8221; it again.</p>
<p>(Bindernagel uses that and similar examples to significant effect in his &#8220;The Discovery of the Sasquatch.&#8221;  In fact, he thinks that something fairly similar actually did happen with the sasquatch.  Worth a read.)</p>
<p>But this Sierra Kills story has smelled like a dumpster full of last week&#8217;s tuna catch from the very beginning.  And history tells us what pretty much inevitably happens there.</p>
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		<title>By: Goodfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goodfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;PROBLEMS&quot;??? It&#039;s PURE FANTASY - the product of a FEVERISH MIND.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PROBLEMS&#8221;??? It&#8217;s PURE FANTASY &#8211; the product of a FEVERISH MIND.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhqwhgads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fhqwhgads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if so, all the better:  If there are Bigfoot all over the place, it&#039;s all the more inevitable that solid physical proof will be produced.  After all, it&#039;s the solid proof that makes us accept the wolverine, which you claim may be encountered less frequently than Bigfoot.

However, this &quot;Sierra kills&quot; story has too many problems for anyone to expect that the solid physical proof will come from it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if so, all the better:  If there are Bigfoot all over the place, it&#8217;s all the more inevitable that solid physical proof will be produced.  After all, it&#8217;s the solid proof that makes us accept the wolverine, which you claim may be encountered less frequently than Bigfoot.</p>
<p>However, this &#8220;Sierra kills&#8221; story has too many problems for anyone to expect that the solid physical proof will come from it.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For the purpose of determining whether Bigfoot even exists as a real animal, unreported sightings are simply not data at all.&quot;

As I said, reported sightings are all we can chalk up for anything.

It&#039;s just logical to propose, if the overall context indicates that sasquatch sightings might be something worth taking seriously (which it clearly does), that there is significant incentive for many to go unreported.  Which is implied by the reactions that sighters report when they try to tell what they saw.

Whether this is actually true or not, who knows?  But one isn&#039;t on sound logical ground presuming that sightings equal or are less than reports, any more than one would be for bears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the purpose of determining whether Bigfoot even exists as a real animal, unreported sightings are simply not data at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I said, reported sightings are all we can chalk up for anything.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just logical to propose, if the overall context indicates that sasquatch sightings might be something worth taking seriously (which it clearly does), that there is significant incentive for many to go unreported.  Which is implied by the reactions that sighters report when they try to tell what they saw.</p>
<p>Whether this is actually true or not, who knows?  But one isn&#8217;t on sound logical ground presuming that sightings equal or are less than reports, any more than one would be for bears.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhqwhgads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fhqwhgads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@DWA 

Sightings of bears, for example, are also under-reported.  My dad has seen bears along the highway or in his back yard several times, but he doesn&#039;t bother phoning them in to the Game and Freshwater Fish Commission.  Why would he?  The bears weren&#039;t causing a problem, and everyone knows there are a few bears in those woods.  It is not really possible to know which sightings are more under-reported. 

Regardless, if it is hard to evaluate the quality of sightings that ARE reported, it is IMPOSSIBLE to evaluate the quality of those that ARE NOT reported.  For the purpose of determining whether Bigfoot even exists as a real animal, unreported sightings are simply not data at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DWA </p>
<p>Sightings of bears, for example, are also under-reported.  My dad has seen bears along the highway or in his back yard several times, but he doesn&#8217;t bother phoning them in to the Game and Freshwater Fish Commission.  Why would he?  The bears weren&#8217;t causing a problem, and everyone knows there are a few bears in those woods.  It is not really possible to know which sightings are more under-reported. </p>
<p>Regardless, if it is hard to evaluate the quality of sightings that ARE reported, it is IMPOSSIBLE to evaluate the quality of those that ARE NOT reported.  For the purpose of determining whether Bigfoot even exists as a real animal, unreported sightings are simply not data at all.</p>
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