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		<title>By: Rangoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rangoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never fear, his successors are even now beginning the war of succession.

We who study nature should all understand that there are many niches on the food chain that need to be filled... the Roll of the Grand King of the Trolls will always be filled.

It&#039;s only a matter of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never fear, his successors are even now beginning the war of succession.</p>
<p>We who study nature should all understand that there are many niches on the food chain that need to be filled&#8230; the Roll of the Grand King of the Trolls will always be filled.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only a matter of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t seen all the comments here, and I&#039;m not without a sense of humor, but I have to agree with mystery_man and kittenz. I admit I have a pretty &quot;low threshhold&quot; when it comes to what I think of as morbidness (in fact, I use the word right and left), but this is getting to be a bit much in the case of Beckjord.

Speaking of humor, to me, John-Erik Beckjord will always be the cryptozoologist who once showed David Letterman what he believed was a petrified piece of Bigfoot droppings. Without bringing ridicule into it (as any given comedian would be tempted to do), David still got a lot of comedy mileage out of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen all the comments here, and I&#8217;m not without a sense of humor, but I have to agree with mystery_man and kittenz. I admit I have a pretty &#8220;low threshhold&#8221; when it comes to what I think of as morbidness (in fact, I use the word right and left), but this is getting to be a bit much in the case of Beckjord.</p>
<p>Speaking of humor, to me, John-Erik Beckjord will always be the cryptozoologist who once showed David Letterman what he believed was a petrified piece of Bigfoot droppings. Without bringing ridicule into it (as any given comedian would be tempted to do), David still got a lot of comedy mileage out of that.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Loren- No, no, I wasn&#039;t referring to you at all. I was reflecting on some of the rejoicing and &quot;dancing on the grave&quot; that I&#039;ve been hearing about in many areas of the cryptozoological community which I think is disproportionate to the deeds of Mr. Beckjord but not targeting this site. You and others here have actually been very subdued and honest in your approach to this whole ordeal and I absolutely can understand a sense of relief or lack of mourning, like I mentioned.

I understand your position, and I understand that his passing may inspire relief. I think the rejoicing in the community as a whole is a tad extreme. My comment was in no way aimed at this site, it&#039;s posters, or you. I&#039;m sorry if that is the impression I gave. If I thought that was what was going on here, I would have said that flat out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren- No, no, I wasn&#8217;t referring to you at all. I was reflecting on some of the rejoicing and &#8220;dancing on the grave&#8221; that I&#8217;ve been hearing about in many areas of the cryptozoological community which I think is disproportionate to the deeds of Mr. Beckjord but not targeting this site. You and others here have actually been very subdued and honest in your approach to this whole ordeal and I absolutely can understand a sense of relief or lack of mourning, like I mentioned.</p>
<p>I understand your position, and I understand that his passing may inspire relief. I think the rejoicing in the community as a whole is a tad extreme. My comment was in no way aimed at this site, it&#8217;s posters, or you. I&#8217;m sorry if that is the impression I gave. If I thought that was what was going on here, I would have said that flat out.</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sad that a person lived his life in such a way that so many people feel relief and even joy at his passing. I wonder if any of Mr. Beckjord&#039;s actions weighed on his conscience before he died? I would hate to believe of myself that anyone felt such animosity toward me that they would rejoice at my death.

Even though Mr. Beckjord had his enemies and apparently deservedly so, I feel sorry for any family who has to lose a loved one to cancer. Both my mother and my dad, half a country apart, are battling cancer. In my dad&#039;s case they have told us it&#039;s just a matter of time, there is nothing more they can do for him but pallative drugs to help ease pain. He&#039;s like a very fierce independent bear or something,  who has gotten old and sick and backed into a corner, but he fought it with everything he had, and now he has made peace with the idea of his death and is facing it with a kind of grim dignity. My mother has a much better prognosis but, having very aggressive small-cell lung cancer, she has a terribly rough chemo/radiation therapy to go through before she hopefully comes out clean of cancer on the other side. I&#039;m so glad that she quit smoking many years ago; that gives her a fighting chance to beat this awful thing.

I feel empathy with Mr. Beckjord&#039;s family and friends - surely he had &lt;em&gt;some&lt;/em&gt; friends? - who had to not only lose their relative but who also now have to try to make sense of the way that he alienated people in his life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that a person lived his life in such a way that so many people feel relief and even joy at his passing. I wonder if any of Mr. Beckjord&#8217;s actions weighed on his conscience before he died? I would hate to believe of myself that anyone felt such animosity toward me that they would rejoice at my death.</p>
<p>Even though Mr. Beckjord had his enemies and apparently deservedly so, I feel sorry for any family who has to lose a loved one to cancer. Both my mother and my dad, half a country apart, are battling cancer. In my dad&#8217;s case they have told us it&#8217;s just a matter of time, there is nothing more they can do for him but pallative drugs to help ease pain. He&#8217;s like a very fierce independent bear or something,  who has gotten old and sick and backed into a corner, but he fought it with everything he had, and now he has made peace with the idea of his death and is facing it with a kind of grim dignity. My mother has a much better prognosis but, having very aggressive small-cell lung cancer, she has a terribly rough chemo/radiation therapy to go through before she hopefully comes out clean of cancer on the other side. I&#8217;m so glad that she quit smoking many years ago; that gives her a fighting chance to beat this awful thing.</p>
<p>I feel empathy with Mr. Beckjord&#8217;s family and friends &#8211; surely he had <em>some</em> friends? &#8211; who had to not only lose their relative but who also now have to try to make sense of the way that he alienated people in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Orb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lightning Orb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you think this Beckjord fellow is indeed dead, but maybe the confusion was caused when someone uninvolved stepped into the dark room where they&#039;re secretly forging his plasma-powered clone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think this Beckjord fellow is indeed dead, but maybe the confusion was caused when someone uninvolved stepped into the dark room where they&#8217;re secretly forging his plasma-powered clone?</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having had similar experiences as those related by Loren above, I too am enjoying relief at his passing.

Erik was certainly entitled to his theories and views; however odd they may have seemed to others in the field.  But his behaviors were reprehensible and made Heath Ledger&#039;s performance in &quot;Dark Knight&quot; seem sane by comparison.

Chi -- being what it is -- I&#039;m sure the ying won&#039;t last long without the yang and another abusive crackpot (to put it nicely) will step up to take his place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had similar experiences as those related by Loren above, I too am enjoying relief at his passing.</p>
<p>Erik was certainly entitled to his theories and views; however odd they may have seemed to others in the field.  But his behaviors were reprehensible and made Heath Ledger&#8217;s performance in &#8220;Dark Knight&#8221; seem sane by comparison.</p>
<p>Chi &#8212; being what it is &#8212; I&#8217;m sure the ying won&#8217;t last long without the yang and another abusive crackpot (to put it nicely) will step up to take his place.</p>
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		<title>By: HOOSIERHUNTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOOSIERHUNTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I mentioned in another post on another thread I have a friend who is a member of his family. His family cut off all ties to Beckjord long ago and this particular family member asked me to be careful about how I mentioned Beckjord and my friendship with them on this site because they are very afraid of Beckjord (and for good reason). I guess they were worried Beckjord might read it. I&#039;ll ask this person I know if Beckjord&#039;s death is true this time.

Okay I stopped in the middle of writing this and called his family--Yes Beckjord did pass away for real this time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in another post on another thread I have a friend who is a member of his family. His family cut off all ties to Beckjord long ago and this particular family member asked me to be careful about how I mentioned Beckjord and my friendship with them on this site because they are very afraid of Beckjord (and for good reason). I guess they were worried Beckjord might read it. I&#8217;ll ask this person I know if Beckjord&#8217;s death is true this time.</p>
<p>Okay I stopped in the middle of writing this and called his family&#8211;Yes Beckjord did pass away for real this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you will note, this is more about a sense of relief than joy. A weight has been lifted, not about his fringe theories, but because of his extreme forms of personalized stalking and harassment.

Frankly, I do not miss someone that telephoned my wife at the time up in the middle of the night and yelled at her, calling her a &quot;****&quot; and a &quot;****&quot; repeatedly, despite requests that EB not phone at all.  This happened on more than one occasion.

Also, he routinely lied about me, my fieldwork, and about other people to every person that listened.  He tried to ruin my relationship with my brother, wrote the president of the university where I was working, and on and on.  The man was not well, but people paid attention to him, as if he was.

Beckjord&#039;s family reportedly had rejected his insanity long ago, and according to some reports, him too.

I am not dancing on his grave, like others, merely commenting on the relief I have (as do some others) because he is resting, hopefully, in peace someplace, far away from any telephones.

Others have said much worse about the guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you will note, this is more about a sense of relief than joy. A weight has been lifted, not about his fringe theories, but because of his extreme forms of personalized stalking and harassment.</p>
<p>Frankly, I do not miss someone that telephoned my wife at the time up in the middle of the night and yelled at her, calling her a &#8220;****&#8221; and a &#8220;****&#8221; repeatedly, despite requests that EB not phone at all.  This happened on more than one occasion.</p>
<p>Also, he routinely lied about me, my fieldwork, and about other people to every person that listened.  He tried to ruin my relationship with my brother, wrote the president of the university where I was working, and on and on.  The man was not well, but people paid attention to him, as if he was.</p>
<p>Beckjord&#8217;s family reportedly had rejected his insanity long ago, and according to some reports, him too.</p>
<p>I am not dancing on his grave, like others, merely commenting on the relief I have (as do some others) because he is resting, hopefully, in peace someplace, far away from any telephones.</p>
<p>Others have said much worse about the guy.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, this whole thing has been really bizarre. It seems that Mr. Beckford&#039;s death is surrounded by as much strangeness and oddity as his life.

I never knew him personally, only of his deeds, and I understand he had a lot of enemies, but he didn&#039;t strike me as a totally evil man and therefore I&#039;m a little appalled that there would be so much rejoicing over the death of another human being. I didn&#039;t agree with most of his ideas or how he interacted with people, he seemed like a bit of an (well, it rhymes with &#039;pass the bowl&#039;), but I&#039;m not sure how much happiness that should invoke upon his passing. Does his death really need to be celebrated? He had some pretty wild, outlandish theories and he pestered and hurt some people, so I can understand some sense of lack of sympathy and sense of relief. But rejoicing? That seems a little harsh in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this whole thing has been really bizarre. It seems that Mr. Beckford&#8217;s death is surrounded by as much strangeness and oddity as his life.</p>
<p>I never knew him personally, only of his deeds, and I understand he had a lot of enemies, but he didn&#8217;t strike me as a totally evil man and therefore I&#8217;m a little appalled that there would be so much rejoicing over the death of another human being. I didn&#8217;t agree with most of his ideas or how he interacted with people, he seemed like a bit of an (well, it rhymes with &#8216;pass the bowl&#8217;), but I&#8217;m not sure how much happiness that should invoke upon his passing. Does his death really need to be celebrated? He had some pretty wild, outlandish theories and he pestered and hurt some people, so I can understand some sense of lack of sympathy and sense of relief. But rejoicing? That seems a little harsh in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How does one live in this post-Beckjord world?&quot;

BAH!  The guy behaved like a four-wheeled, first-class red-blooded American JERK, obnoxiously interfering with other researchers&#039; work, inventing and twisting his warped tales and ideas into unrecognizably comic cartoons, dancing around the fringes of Paranormal research, scattering confusion and ridicule with wild abandon!

Perhaps we can all now take a deep breath and get back to serious Para-business, keeping a wary eye out for neo-JEBs.

Like Ol&#039; Bub sez, Live and Learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How does one live in this post-Beckjord world?&#8221;</p>
<p>BAH!  The guy behaved like a four-wheeled, first-class red-blooded American JERK, obnoxiously interfering with other researchers&#8217; work, inventing and twisting his warped tales and ideas into unrecognizably comic cartoons, dancing around the fringes of Paranormal research, scattering confusion and ridicule with wild abandon!</p>
<p>Perhaps we can all now take a deep breath and get back to serious Para-business, keeping a wary eye out for neo-JEBs.</p>
<p>Like Ol&#8217; Bub sez, Live and Learn.</p>
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