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		<title>By: sschaper</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a growing opinion that the dromaeosaurs at least, -were- birds. That they have been mis-classified. Just as the &#039;mammal-like dinosaurs&#039; may simply have been monotremes, along with the pterosaurs. Birds show up in the fossil record at least as early as dinosaurs. Should others be more correctly classified with turtles and other archaeosaurs? The coloration could vary for all of the reasons the article suggested. For the large predators we might look at the eagles, condors and vultures. T-Rex didn&#039;t have long enough &#039;arms&#039; or winglets to groom his head and neck, so they might have been featherless in those regions, must like a vulture.

The dinosaurs proper had hollow bones and other indicators of being warm-blooded, and belonging to aves, not sauria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a growing opinion that the dromaeosaurs at least, -were- birds. That they have been mis-classified. Just as the &#8216;mammal-like dinosaurs&#8217; may simply have been monotremes, along with the pterosaurs. Birds show up in the fossil record at least as early as dinosaurs. Should others be more correctly classified with turtles and other archaeosaurs? The coloration could vary for all of the reasons the article suggested. For the large predators we might look at the eagles, condors and vultures. T-Rex didn&#8217;t have long enough &#8216;arms&#8217; or winglets to groom his head and neck, so they might have been featherless in those regions, must like a vulture.</p>
<p>The dinosaurs proper had hollow bones and other indicators of being warm-blooded, and belonging to aves, not sauria.</p>
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		<title>By: watn6789</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found 3 instances from different cultures and times that reference a dragonlike creature with a white ring around its neck, one was Native American, one was Middle Age Europe and another more modern day Asia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found 3 instances from different cultures and times that reference a dragonlike creature with a white ring around its neck, one was Native American, one was Middle Age Europe and another more modern day Asia</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant 2.0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shovethenos - Well, if you&#039;re talking specifically about non-dinosaurian reptiles like monitor lizards, then you are correct, those are, as far as we know, cold-blooded. As plesiosaurs were likewise members of the Squamata, it is certainly a possibility that they were cold-blooded as well. However, cross-sections of dinosaur bones, as  well as the light, agile build of many of the Maniraptoran dinosaurs, suggests warm-bloodedness for dinosaurs, Theropods in particular. As for the tendency for sightings to be in tropical areas, this may be because of the dense cover that a rainforest provides.

Glendoor - If you manage to catch and kill a living dinosaur, please send me a sample of the resultant barbecue. :D

Dogu - Well, there is some speculation regarding smell - I think T-rex smelled terrible, personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shovethenos &#8211; Well, if you&#8217;re talking specifically about non-dinosaurian reptiles like monitor lizards, then you are correct, those are, as far as we know, cold-blooded. As plesiosaurs were likewise members of the Squamata, it is certainly a possibility that they were cold-blooded as well. However, cross-sections of dinosaur bones, as  well as the light, agile build of many of the Maniraptoran dinosaurs, suggests warm-bloodedness for dinosaurs, Theropods in particular. As for the tendency for sightings to be in tropical areas, this may be because of the dense cover that a rainforest provides.</p>
<p>Glendoor &#8211; If you manage to catch and kill a living dinosaur, please send me a sample of the resultant barbecue. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dogu &#8211; Well, there is some speculation regarding smell &#8211; I think T-rex smelled terrible, personally.</p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS...Flqwtfghads&#039; suggestion in his previous comment for further exploration on evolution is possibly the most enlightening and light hearted (side-splittting) bit of educational material referenced so far. Thanks for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS&#8230;Flqwtfghads&#8217; suggestion in his previous comment for further exploration on evolution is possibly the most enlightening and light hearted (side-splittting) bit of educational material referenced so far. Thanks for that.</p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question, but more for what it reveals about human perception than the actual answer. The fact that we wonder about what color they were, instead of what they smelled like. or what frequency or amplitude of its infrasonics, or ...well, you get the picture. We obsess over vision because of our species&#039; particular evolutionary path which as arboreal primates was an obsession with the color of relatively nearby and reachable fruit or insects, so we see in color and are best at about 100 feet or so. Other animals have some color sensitivity but it seems to be for specific colors relevant to their existence, but who can doubt that the fanciful stripes and polka-dots we see on many replicas are all about making us the prey to commercial market hunters for dinosaur tchochkes.
I&#039;ve heard there&#039;s been some progress in reading the texture of some fossil skin impressions which suggest that there was some micro-structure indicative of coloration (structural color or melanin pigments I can&#039;t recall). None of this speculation dissuades me from wishing we could at least send a camera back in a time machine to see for ourselves, even if we can&#039;t go ourselves. In the mean time I&#039;ll continue to rely on the internet for my armchair time travelling and prehistoric sightseeing, in large part thanks to Cryptomundo. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question, but more for what it reveals about human perception than the actual answer. The fact that we wonder about what color they were, instead of what they smelled like. or what frequency or amplitude of its infrasonics, or &#8230;well, you get the picture. We obsess over vision because of our species&#8217; particular evolutionary path which as arboreal primates was an obsession with the color of relatively nearby and reachable fruit or insects, so we see in color and are best at about 100 feet or so. Other animals have some color sensitivity but it seems to be for specific colors relevant to their existence, but who can doubt that the fanciful stripes and polka-dots we see on many replicas are all about making us the prey to commercial market hunters for dinosaur tchochkes.<br />
I&#8217;ve heard there&#8217;s been some progress in reading the texture of some fossil skin impressions which suggest that there was some micro-structure indicative of coloration (structural color or melanin pigments I can&#8217;t recall). None of this speculation dissuades me from wishing we could at least send a camera back in a time machine to see for ourselves, even if we can&#8217;t go ourselves. In the mean time I&#8217;ll continue to rely on the internet for my armchair time travelling and prehistoric sightseeing, in large part thanks to Cryptomundo. cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: shovethenos</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maslo63-

&lt;i&gt;Though they were reptiles the way they lived and functioned is more like that of present day birds and mammals and it is best to look to them for clues on how the dinosaurs lived, especially birds but obviously a bird finch is a very different animal from a triceratops, but then we have rhinos to look at for that sort of comparison.&lt;/i&gt;

Well first of all I phrased it undiscovered reptiles and put &quot;dinosaurs&quot; in quotes. I&#039;m aware of some of the research suggesting that some dinosaurs might have had metabolisms closer to warm-blooded.

However most of the evidence I have seen hews to the old cold-blooded model. At Champlain you start getting sightings when the temperature rises to 70 or so in the spring and then they drop to zero when the temperature goes below 70 in the fall. (This observation first made my Dennis Hall, I believe.) That follows the model of a cold-blooded animal that hybernates, like the smaller known reptiles at Champlain.

The other sightings of &quot;living dinosaurs&quot; seem to be in very warm tropical or sub-tropical areas, so that doesn&#039;t disagree with the cold-blooded model. That doesn&#039;t rule out warm-bloodedness, though.

CryptoInformant 2.0 -

See the reply to maslo63.
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<p><i>Though they were reptiles the way they lived and functioned is more like that of present day birds and mammals and it is best to look to them for clues on how the dinosaurs lived, especially birds but obviously a bird finch is a very different animal from a triceratops, but then we have rhinos to look at for that sort of comparison.</i></p>
<p>Well first of all I phrased it undiscovered reptiles and put &#8220;dinosaurs&#8221; in quotes. I&#8217;m aware of some of the research suggesting that some dinosaurs might have had metabolisms closer to warm-blooded.</p>
<p>However most of the evidence I have seen hews to the old cold-blooded model. At Champlain you start getting sightings when the temperature rises to 70 or so in the spring and then they drop to zero when the temperature goes below 70 in the fall. (This observation first made my Dennis Hall, I believe.) That follows the model of a cold-blooded animal that hybernates, like the smaller known reptiles at Champlain.</p>
<p>The other sightings of &#8220;living dinosaurs&#8221; seem to be in very warm tropical or sub-tropical areas, so that doesn&#8217;t disagree with the cold-blooded model. That doesn&#8217;t rule out warm-bloodedness, though.</p>
<p>CryptoInformant 2.0 -</p>
<p>See the reply to maslo63.</p>
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		<title>By: glendoor42</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no clue as to what color dinosaurs could be. But I would just about bet money that, they taste or tasted, just like chicken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no clue as to what color dinosaurs could be. But I would just about bet money that, they taste or tasted, just like chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Fhqwhgads</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is generally agreed upon that dinosaurs or at least some dinosaurs were not cold blooded.&lt;/i&gt;

One of the most interesting (to me) departures from the biology I learned in elementary school is precisely this division of animals into warm-blooded and cold-blooded, with birds and mammals being warm-blooded and reptiles, amphibians, and fish being cold-blooded.  But some mammals (such as the naked mole rat, and if I remember correctly, to a lesser extent the manatee) are barely warm-blooded at all.  On the other hand, the tuna is a &quot;warm-blooded&quot; fish.  The distinction is not as black-and-white as it used to be.  Besides, a large sauropod probably had a low metabolism (to reduce how much it had to eat, to allow the food to ferment in its stomach, and because it did not need to run from predators) but would still be more challenged with getting rid of heat than with generating it.

But perhaps the best illustration of the difference between the traditional picture of dinosaurs and recent thinking is given by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.besse.at/sms/evolutn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this website&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is generally agreed upon that dinosaurs or at least some dinosaurs were not cold blooded.</i></p>
<p>One of the most interesting (to me) departures from the biology I learned in elementary school is precisely this division of animals into warm-blooded and cold-blooded, with birds and mammals being warm-blooded and reptiles, amphibians, and fish being cold-blooded.  But some mammals (such as the naked mole rat, and if I remember correctly, to a lesser extent the manatee) are barely warm-blooded at all.  On the other hand, the tuna is a &#8220;warm-blooded&#8221; fish.  The distinction is not as black-and-white as it used to be.  Besides, a large sauropod probably had a low metabolism (to reduce how much it had to eat, to allow the food to ferment in its stomach, and because it did not need to run from predators) but would still be more challenged with getting rid of heat than with generating it.</p>
<p>But perhaps the best illustration of the difference between the traditional picture of dinosaurs and recent thinking is given by <a href="http://www.besse.at/sms/evolutn.html" rel="nofollow">this website</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant 2.0</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It stuns me, looking at some posts, to see the strong resistance to change as far as public opinion about dinosaurs goes. They haven&#039;t been seen by science in general as giant, sluggish, cold-blooded lizards since Ostrom described &lt;em&gt;Deinonychus antirrhopus&lt;/em&gt;, and yet - as demonstrated by both Scholastic and, apparently, Shovthenos - people still have a tendency to view them that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It stuns me, looking at some posts, to see the strong resistance to change as far as public opinion about dinosaurs goes. They haven&#8217;t been seen by science in general as giant, sluggish, cold-blooded lizards since Ostrom described <em>Deinonychus antirrhopus</em>, and yet &#8211; as demonstrated by both Scholastic and, apparently, Shovthenos &#8211; people still have a tendency to view them that way.</p>
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		<title>By: maslo63</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shovelthenos--&quot;If large, undiscovered reptiles or “dinosaurs” exist I think the main factor effecting coloration is going to be metabolic. They would likely have a cold-blooded metabolism, so adult animals would tend to be darker to more efficiently absorb heat from sunlight.&quot;

It is generally agreed upon that dinosaurs or at least some dinosaurs were not cold blooded. Though they were reptiles the way they lived and functioned is more like that of present day birds and mammals and it is best to look to them for clues on how the dinosaurs lived, especially birds but obviously a bird finch is a very different animal from a triceratops, but then we have rhinos to look at for that sort of comparison. I imagine the larger herbivores were most likely dull, like modern large mammals. Crested hadrosaurs and certopsians may have had display colors on their head ornamentation. Carnivores were likely camouflaged, smaller species may have been colorful. 

Terrell--&quot;Those ridiculous dino-bird pictures always make me smile…

So I guess the duck billed platypus is becoming a duck, or a maybe a beaver! Or maybe a snake (the males do have venom). Maybe collagen should be seriously considered as the reason for the ‘dino-fuzz’, I mean come on, those pictures just look ridiculous.&quot;

Evidently this is a comment made from someone who just is not familiar with the fossil evidence for feathered dinosaurs. Current finds go way beyond dino fuzz and into secondary feathers extending from the arms and display feathers on the tails. Species such as Microraptor were gliding animals with wings on all four limbs. You may see them as ridiculous but they were real, like it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shovelthenos&#8211;&#8221;If large, undiscovered reptiles or “dinosaurs” exist I think the main factor effecting coloration is going to be metabolic. They would likely have a cold-blooded metabolism, so adult animals would tend to be darker to more efficiently absorb heat from sunlight.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is generally agreed upon that dinosaurs or at least some dinosaurs were not cold blooded. Though they were reptiles the way they lived and functioned is more like that of present day birds and mammals and it is best to look to them for clues on how the dinosaurs lived, especially birds but obviously a bird finch is a very different animal from a triceratops, but then we have rhinos to look at for that sort of comparison. I imagine the larger herbivores were most likely dull, like modern large mammals. Crested hadrosaurs and certopsians may have had display colors on their head ornamentation. Carnivores were likely camouflaged, smaller species may have been colorful. </p>
<p>Terrell&#8211;&#8221;Those ridiculous dino-bird pictures always make me smile…</p>
<p>So I guess the duck billed platypus is becoming a duck, or a maybe a beaver! Or maybe a snake (the males do have venom). Maybe collagen should be seriously considered as the reason for the ‘dino-fuzz’, I mean come on, those pictures just look ridiculous.&#8221;</p>
<p>Evidently this is a comment made from someone who just is not familiar with the fossil evidence for feathered dinosaurs. Current finds go way beyond dino fuzz and into secondary feathers extending from the arms and display feathers on the tails. Species such as Microraptor were gliding animals with wings on all four limbs. You may see them as ridiculous but they were real, like it or not.</p>
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