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	<title>Comments on: Where in the Champ World Are Dennis Hall and Elizabeth von Muggenthaler?</title>
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		<title>By: dconstrukt</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dennis-liz/comment-page-1/#comment-80776</link>
		<dc:creator>dconstrukt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 15:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@champ voucher... interesting.... any more details?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@champ voucher&#8230; interesting&#8230;. any more details?</p>
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		<title>By: Champ Voucher</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dennis-liz/comment-page-1/#comment-78557</link>
		<dc:creator>Champ Voucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 18:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently corresponded with Liz, and she is always cordial and freely shares her information. That being said, the Champ research crowd is very adamant about what they each think this animal is. The reason Dennis thinks it&#039;s a Tanystropheus is because under certain conditions it looks like what a Tanny might look like.

Others like Scott Mardis who think it may be a Plesiosaur, do so because under certain conditions, it looks like what we might expect a Plesiosaur to look like.

Liz believes that it is a Cetacean because she has recorded similar echolocation data to Beluga Whales .... and thus, it should be a Whale,  because as we are told by experts - &quot;only Whales echolocate.&quot;

Ironically, not one of these folks are correct about what it is.

Sociologist Robert Bartholomew, friend of Ben Radford, has written a book about Champ and the gang that study it. My understanding is that the book will focus on the sociological aspects of the phenom, like the researchers themselves and their obsessions with their own theories and uncooperation with other researchers and egos in general etc. Explanations for sightings such as imagination, expectation, misidentification, publicity seeking and the so called cottage industry spawned by the Champ legend are examined. Those Champ-burgers in Port Henry must be making the town rich!

There will however, be a book next year by an independent researcher that will clearly demonstrate for all to see what these animals are, how they live, breathe, eat, reproduce and why no one can find them. A Cryptomundo community member will be the type of person who is going to solve this mystery, not the academics who have continuously ignored data, photos, videos, eyewitness reports (over 300) and presented unimaginative and unresearched &quot;explanations&quot;.
The Champ family is very real, and we will all see the proof soon. In the end, Champ will be the star of this show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently corresponded with Liz, and she is always cordial and freely shares her information. That being said, the Champ research crowd is very adamant about what they each think this animal is. The reason Dennis thinks it&#8217;s a Tanystropheus is because under certain conditions it looks like what a Tanny might look like.</p>
<p>Others like Scott Mardis who think it may be a Plesiosaur, do so because under certain conditions, it looks like what we might expect a Plesiosaur to look like.</p>
<p>Liz believes that it is a Cetacean because she has recorded similar echolocation data to Beluga Whales &#8230;. and thus, it should be a Whale,  because as we are told by experts &#8211; &#8220;only Whales echolocate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironically, not one of these folks are correct about what it is.</p>
<p>Sociologist Robert Bartholomew, friend of Ben Radford, has written a book about Champ and the gang that study it. My understanding is that the book will focus on the sociological aspects of the phenom, like the researchers themselves and their obsessions with their own theories and uncooperation with other researchers and egos in general etc. Explanations for sightings such as imagination, expectation, misidentification, publicity seeking and the so called cottage industry spawned by the Champ legend are examined. Those Champ-burgers in Port Henry must be making the town rich!</p>
<p>There will however, be a book next year by an independent researcher that will clearly demonstrate for all to see what these animals are, how they live, breathe, eat, reproduce and why no one can find them. A Cryptomundo community member will be the type of person who is going to solve this mystery, not the academics who have continuously ignored data, photos, videos, eyewitness reports (over 300) and presented unimaginative and unresearched &#8220;explanations&#8221;.<br />
The Champ family is very real, and we will all see the proof soon. In the end, Champ will be the star of this show.</p>
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		<title>By: corrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>corrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I corresponded with Dennis Hall more than a few times about 8-10 years ago.

Don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever encountered anyone in cryptozoology I&#039;d consider stranger.

His theories about Champ disturbed me. It wasn&#039;t so much that there was no science, but his theories were something one might expect from the fantasies of an eight year old. Very weird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I corresponded with Dennis Hall more than a few times about 8-10 years ago.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever encountered anyone in cryptozoology I&#8217;d consider stranger.</p>
<p>His theories about Champ disturbed me. It wasn&#8217;t so much that there was no science, but his theories were something one might expect from the fantasies of an eight year old. Very weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Mïk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mïk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 01:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rrib13- it looks like Liz  has given up on the Champ noises and has become a dog and cat trainer in North Carolina. She teaches pets to be civilized for a sliding scale. Wish the best for her, though we&#039;ll all moon over the possibilities of her leading crypto-studies]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rrib13- it looks like Liz  has given up on the Champ noises and has become a dog and cat trainer in North Carolina. She teaches pets to be civilized for a sliding scale. Wish the best for her, though we&#8217;ll all moon over the possibilities of her leading crypto-studies</p>
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		<title>By: rrib13</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dennis-liz/comment-page-1/#comment-78497</link>
		<dc:creator>rrib13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elizabeth von Muggenthaler is president of Fauna Communication Research Institute, Hillsborough, NC 27278.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth von Muggenthaler is president of Fauna Communication Research Institute, Hillsborough, NC 27278.</p>
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		<title>By: dollyfinn</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/dennis-liz/comment-page-1/#comment-78492</link>
		<dc:creator>dollyfinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 12:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always wondered why von Muggenthaler didn&#039;t do more with her findings.  It has been so many years now that it does call her findings into question.  Does anyone know what she does in her day job?  If she is a professor that would explain her being somewhat quiet about things.  Her tenure would definitely be in question!  Thanks for posting this, very interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always wondered why von Muggenthaler didn&#8217;t do more with her findings.  It has been so many years now that it does call her findings into question.  Does anyone know what she does in her day job?  If she is a professor that would explain her being somewhat quiet about things.  Her tenure would definitely be in question!  Thanks for posting this, very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: adrianaitken</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrianaitken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 07:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.animalvoice.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;website&lt;/a&gt; for Elizabeth von Muggenthaler, under the &#039;news&#039; sction, she seems to be writing a book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the <a href="http://www.animalvoice.com" rel="nofollow">website</a> for Elizabeth von Muggenthaler, under the &#8216;news&#8217; sction, she seems to be writing a book.</p>
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		<title>By: jewpunxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jewpunxxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last info I heard about Muggenthaler was she is due to appear on a new episode of &lt;em&gt;Wild Case Files&lt;/em&gt;, which from what I understand has already been filmed. I can think of two possibilities for her and the lack of new info about her discovery, either after further study it turned out to be nothing, or after further study they are sitting on a  big discovery until what ever agency is funding and or publishing the findings says its time to make an announcement. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last info I heard about Muggenthaler was she is due to appear on a new episode of <em>Wild Case Files</em>, which from what I understand has already been filmed. I can think of two possibilities for her and the lack of new info about her discovery, either after further study it turned out to be nothing, or after further study they are sitting on a  big discovery until what ever agency is funding and or publishing the findings says its time to make an announcement. </p>
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		<title>By: Insanity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insanity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the champ-trackers Yahoo group site, it was mentioned that Dennis Hall was still around in 2009 and last April 2011, but not much other details.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the champ-trackers Yahoo group site, it was mentioned that Dennis Hall was still around in 2009 and last April 2011, but not much other details.</p>
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