Comments on: 1893 “Dover Demon”

By: jerrywayne

jerrywayne — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:27:08 +0000

I’m reminded of what a fun writer H.G. Wells is still, and how influential his writings are in the history of science fiction. I read his “The Invisible Man” a couple of summers ago and found it surprisingly fresh, given all the filmed versions of the story.

(My favorite IM movie: Abbott and Costello Meet the Invisible Man!)

By: Fhqwhgads

Fhqwhgads — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 03:32:42 +0000

I probably should be more explicit with what I mean. If the appearance of the greys is an archetype, it’s no surprise that artists may have used it a century ago.

By: Fhqwhgads

Fhqwhgads — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:25:03 +0000

Regarding the grey aliens, I think that their appearance is determined by some sort of archetype interpreted in late 20th century terms. Whether this is because the beings behind the sightings choose to appear this way for some reason, or whether we cannot help but interpret them in this way, or whether “they” don’t have any separate existence from the minds of their witnesses, I’m not so sure.

By: Loren Coleman

Loren Coleman — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:01:45 +0000

Interesting, fossilhunter, that you should pick out that Enfield, Illinois case from 1973. Although Weird Illinois doesn't acknowledge it, that was my case investigation. It was much different than the Dover Demon, however, and was more like a combo phantom kangaroo, devil monkey, and swamp ape situation.

By: fossilhunter

fossilhunter — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:15:50 +0000

Greetings All!
So according to H.G., we’re all going to turn into the little critter seen in Enfield, Illinois in 1973? Hmmm. Could be worse I guess! Considering that we’ve been working on being “human” for about 200K years so far, in a million years we could go in almost any direction. Especially since we’re bound to not let nature take its course, but to meddle in it ourselves one way (genetically) or another (climate change)!

By: norman-uk

norman-uk — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:03:45 +0000

Its gollum to a T ! A hobbit degraded by desire nature caught from its association with the power of the rings! Per Tolkeins, Lord of the Rings (1937).

By: Labyrinth_13

Labyrinth_13 — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:15:07 +0000

OK, I just read the article again and see that the images is not in fact a historical record of an earlier sighting, but rather, an artist’s impression of what the man of the future may appear like.

I’ve got to polish my reading comprehension skills, obviously. . .

By: Labyrinth_13

Labyrinth_13 — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:11:44 +0000

The Dover Demon has always been my personal favorite of the Fortean cryptids that I first read about via Loren’s earliest writings. And I find it highly interesting that some sort of historical evidence has been uncovered (that is, if I am reading this article correctly).

By: cryptidsrus

cryptidsrus — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:56:56 +0000

Actually, many folks I know of (and many Cree Indians, supposedly) consider The Dover Demon to be not an Alien but a fairy-type “TROLL” from their folklore called the Mannegishi. The creature bears a striking resemblance to the descriptions of the Demon given by Bartlett and the other witnesses.

The Mannegishi was a trickster figure who delighted in playing pranks, such as overturning canoes. The Ojibwa have the similar Memegwesi.

To be honest, I would not consider this to be necessarily “paranormal,” but as a creature that was/is mischievious and was considered by the Cree as a “Troll Being.” Does not mean it IS “trollish,” as in the sense of fairytales or “David The Gnome” Trolls, but as a creature that they knew/know of that is “devious,” like a Fox, let’s say.
If something like that would be detected by Science and verified, I wonder what we would classify it as? Who knows?

By: WOLVES-TALON

WOLVES-TALON — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:34:24 +0000

The very first time I looked at this I said..”WOW”, then it was “Hmmmmm”

Yep, Looks like an Alien. Kinda cute in an eerie kinda way.

Kinda figured that they’d be here too ! ( here, as in regards to Earth.)