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		<title>By: Tamarack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamarack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did &quot;Crackpot&quot; or &quot;Egghead&quot; become terms of endearment?  I must have missed that when ever or where ever it happened.

I was set back by these terms also. So I wonder which category Mr Regal places Dr. Krantz?

I would think that a study of Dr. Krantz&#039;s work would have revealed how frustrating it is for those who take their search for Bigfoot seriously to be left on their own by the scientific community at large. Many are doing as much as they can to the best of their ability to properly bring forth evidence in such a way that will be solid enough to get the attention of those scientists who may be in a position to help.

I also thought of the possibility that it could be a difference in cultures since much of British humor simply doesn&#039;t come across to me as funny. Maybe it is common in the U.K. to call a friend either a &quot;crackpot&quot; or an &quot;egghead&quot; like we might use the term &quot;buddy&quot; or &quot;pal&quot; but this is the first time that I have come across it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did &#8220;Crackpot&#8221; or &#8220;Egghead&#8221; become terms of endearment?  I must have missed that when ever or where ever it happened.</p>
<p>I was set back by these terms also. So I wonder which category Mr Regal places Dr. Krantz?</p>
<p>I would think that a study of Dr. Krantz&#8217;s work would have revealed how frustrating it is for those who take their search for Bigfoot seriously to be left on their own by the scientific community at large. Many are doing as much as they can to the best of their ability to properly bring forth evidence in such a way that will be solid enough to get the attention of those scientists who may be in a position to help.</p>
<p>I also thought of the possibility that it could be a difference in cultures since much of British humor simply doesn&#8217;t come across to me as funny. Maybe it is common in the U.K. to call a friend either a &#8220;crackpot&#8221; or an &#8220;egghead&#8221; like we might use the term &#8220;buddy&#8221; or &#8220;pal&#8221; but this is the first time that I have come across it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranatemporaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranatemporaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defence of Mr. Regal I believe the terms of reference or labels used in his writings above, are more a reflection on how society currently and potentially view those involved in research both within cryptozoology and science in general.

In the current climate those involved in “pseudoscience” are often discredited as &quot;crackpots.&quot;  If or when, well presented significant and scientifically accepted evidence comes to light then the researchers or scientists involved will be the labelled &quot;eggheads&quot; as the subject matter by its nature becomes more “mainstream” as it is generally more social accepted by colleges peers and the public.

All these labels, the social outlook and the research situation are synonymous, and unfortunately interdependently linked.

I may well, however, be wrong in my interpretation not knowing a massive amount about his work.

Apologies if I am and also apologies for the ineloquence of my explanations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defence of Mr. Regal I believe the terms of reference or labels used in his writings above, are more a reflection on how society currently and potentially view those involved in research both within cryptozoology and science in general.</p>
<p>In the current climate those involved in “pseudoscience” are often discredited as &#8220;crackpots.&#8221;  If or when, well presented significant and scientifically accepted evidence comes to light then the researchers or scientists involved will be the labelled &#8220;eggheads&#8221; as the subject matter by its nature becomes more “mainstream” as it is generally more social accepted by colleges peers and the public.</p>
<p>All these labels, the social outlook and the research situation are synonymous, and unfortunately interdependently linked.</p>
<p>I may well, however, be wrong in my interpretation not knowing a massive amount about his work.</p>
<p>Apologies if I am and also apologies for the ineloquence of my explanations!</p>
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		<title>By: TaishaMcGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaishaMcGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Regal:

Oh how I long for the days when &quot;paranormal research&quot; becomes...alla whatcha just said...

Why would I be angry with you for saying such things? I&#039;m a believer in science. Charlatans and opportunists do us no good.  Data and physical evidence do all the good in the world.

Thank you for adding to my input...or, at least, my lol-style commentary...

Also, Loren, thank you for responding to the &quot;crackpot&quot; vernacular used:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Regal:</p>
<p>Oh how I long for the days when &#8220;paranormal research&#8221; becomes&#8230;alla whatcha just said&#8230;</p>
<p>Why would I be angry with you for saying such things? I&#8217;m a believer in science. Charlatans and opportunists do us no good.  Data and physical evidence do all the good in the world.</p>
<p>Thank you for adding to my input&#8230;or, at least, my lol-style commentary&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, Loren, thank you for responding to the &#8220;crackpot&#8221; vernacular used:)</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian Regal says: &quot;...you know the day that happens Bigfoot is no longer fringe or paranormal or pseudo-science, its anthropology. That means the eggheads take over and crackpots are out.&quot;

Of course, Grover Krantz use to say something very similar to this, with different labels, and would make the amateurs at his presentations as angry as they could be.  It&#039;s probably in one of his books too.

Why anyone that studies Bigfoot has to be pegged as being a &quot;crackpot,&quot; however, by academically-based scholars is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Regal says: &#8220;&#8230;you know the day that happens Bigfoot is no longer fringe or paranormal or pseudo-science, its anthropology. That means the eggheads take over and crackpots are out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, Grover Krantz use to say something very similar to this, with different labels, and would make the amateurs at his presentations as angry as they could be.  It&#8217;s probably in one of his books too.</p>
<p>Why anyone that studies Bigfoot has to be pegged as being a &#8220;crackpot,&#8221; however, by academically-based scholars is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Regal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Regal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t normally write in to websites, but since I seem to be the topic of discussion today I will give it one more go and answer two questions.

To MMGood:

The more popular article will appear in the British history of science magazine &lt;em&gt;Endeavour&lt;/em&gt; (unfortunately not widely available here in the states).  The info is, “Amateur Versus Professional: the Search for Bigfoot,” &lt;em&gt;Endeavour&lt;/em&gt; vol 32 #2 (2008).  While the printed version is not available yet, you can go to their webpage (the parent publisher is Elsevier) and download a pdf for a small fee.  I have no idea when the &lt;em&gt;Annals of Science&lt;/em&gt; will be available, sometime this year I am told.  It is still in the page proof stage.  Peer-review articles are notoriously difficult to get published because they are held to a much higher standard of intellectual rigor.

To TaishaMcGee:

I will tell you the same thing I tell my students when they ask me that question.  &quot;Paranormal&quot; research will become &quot;mainstream&quot; when practitioners do a number of things.  With all due respect, just carrying a night vision scope into the woods does not make the search for Bigfoot &quot;scientific&quot; (and yes, I know that is a gross oversimplification of what goes on).  You are going to have to establish research paradigms, unifying goals and methodologies that are widely accepted within the field, articulate the predictive power of cryptozoology, and most importantly provide undeniable evidence that will stand up to peer-review scrutiny.  Now, don’t get mad at me, I’m an historian not a scientist, I don’t make these rules, I just have to live by them.  All you really have to do to settle the question is toss a body on a dissecting table at WSU, Berkeley, U. Chicago, etc. and your worries are over.  At least those worries.  Because you know the day that happens Bigfoot is no longer fringe or paranormal or pseudo-science, its anthropology.  That means the eggheads take over and crackpots are out.

Hope that helps,
Brian Regal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t normally write in to websites, but since I seem to be the topic of discussion today I will give it one more go and answer two questions.</p>
<p>To MMGood:</p>
<p>The more popular article will appear in the British history of science magazine <em>Endeavour</em> (unfortunately not widely available here in the states).  The info is, “Amateur Versus Professional: the Search for Bigfoot,” <em>Endeavour</em> vol 32 #2 (2008).  While the printed version is not available yet, you can go to their webpage (the parent publisher is Elsevier) and download a pdf for a small fee.  I have no idea when the <em>Annals of Science</em> will be available, sometime this year I am told.  It is still in the page proof stage.  Peer-review articles are notoriously difficult to get published because they are held to a much higher standard of intellectual rigor.</p>
<p>To TaishaMcGee:</p>
<p>I will tell you the same thing I tell my students when they ask me that question.  &#8220;Paranormal&#8221; research will become &#8220;mainstream&#8221; when practitioners do a number of things.  With all due respect, just carrying a night vision scope into the woods does not make the search for Bigfoot &#8220;scientific&#8221; (and yes, I know that is a gross oversimplification of what goes on).  You are going to have to establish research paradigms, unifying goals and methodologies that are widely accepted within the field, articulate the predictive power of cryptozoology, and most importantly provide undeniable evidence that will stand up to peer-review scrutiny.  Now, don’t get mad at me, I’m an historian not a scientist, I don’t make these rules, I just have to live by them.  All you really have to do to settle the question is toss a body on a dissecting table at WSU, Berkeley, U. Chicago, etc. and your worries are over.  At least those worries.  Because you know the day that happens Bigfoot is no longer fringe or paranormal or pseudo-science, its anthropology.  That means the eggheads take over and crackpots are out.</p>
<p>Hope that helps,<br />
Brian Regal</p>
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		<title>By: red_pill_junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red_pill_junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Join us for a free glass of wine in a private view of the Museum after the talk.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What?? Don&#039;t they know that crackpots get heavily aggresive after imbibing alcohol?! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Join us for a free glass of wine in a private view of the Museum after the talk.</p></blockquote>
<p>What?? Don&#8217;t they know that crackpots get heavily aggresive after imbibing alcohol?! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TaishaMcGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaishaMcGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, how I long for the days when &quot;paranormal research&quot; will be considered &quot;mainstream science&quot;...

Thanks for the information, Loren!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, how I long for the days when &#8220;paranormal research&#8221; will be considered &#8220;mainstream science&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the information, Loren!</p>
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		<title>By: MMGood</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Regal --

Thanks for clarifying.  Your work sounds interesting.  When does the article come out?  What about the book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Regal &#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying.  Your work sounds interesting.  When does the article come out?  What about the book?</p>
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		<title>By: Strick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, Thanks for your interest in Cryptozoological events worldwide and not just inside in the continental United States.  I find this a refreshing change from most commentators on your side of the pond!   I  guess you must be well aware of the global reach of this site!

This event sounds very much like one I will attend and, as the man says, there&#039;s free wine chucked in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, Thanks for your interest in Cryptozoological events worldwide and not just inside in the continental United States.  I find this a refreshing change from most commentators on your side of the pond!   I  guess you must be well aware of the global reach of this site!</p>
<p>This event sounds very much like one I will attend and, as the man says, there&#8217;s free wine chucked in!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Regal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Regal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Coleman,

Thanks so much for helping spread word of my upcoming talk at the Grant Museum&#039;s Darwin Theater in London. (I&#039;ll also be giving a related paper at the BSHS meeting at Oxford the week before, if anyone is in town).

I was a bit surprised at your description of my work, as an attack on the late Grover Krantz.  It is certainly not.  (My upcoming book on his life is actually rather sympathetic to his career).

My work situates Bigfoot studies in the long tradition of sometimes strained relations between amatuer naturalists and professional scientists, hence the title &quot;Crackpots &amp; Eggheads&quot; (also the title of the book).  I use these terms in the most endearing of ways. (Both sides have certainly called each other worse names.)  Not unlike the folklorist Donna Kossy used the term &quot;Kooks&quot; to describe the subjects of her work.

I look at the complex interaction of these two intellectual worlds in order to discover insights into how monster hunting fits into the broader context of the history of science in America.  I think you would enjoy my talk and not find it insulting at all or any kind of &quot;attack.&quot;

Oh, I also have a scholarly peer reviewed article coming out on this later this year in the journal &lt;em&gt;Annals of Science&lt;/em&gt;.

Sincerely,
Brian Regal, PhD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Coleman,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for helping spread word of my upcoming talk at the Grant Museum&#8217;s Darwin Theater in London. (I&#8217;ll also be giving a related paper at the BSHS meeting at Oxford the week before, if anyone is in town).</p>
<p>I was a bit surprised at your description of my work, as an attack on the late Grover Krantz.  It is certainly not.  (My upcoming book on his life is actually rather sympathetic to his career).</p>
<p>My work situates Bigfoot studies in the long tradition of sometimes strained relations between amatuer naturalists and professional scientists, hence the title &#8220;Crackpots &#038; Eggheads&#8221; (also the title of the book).  I use these terms in the most endearing of ways. (Both sides have certainly called each other worse names.)  Not unlike the folklorist Donna Kossy used the term &#8220;Kooks&#8221; to describe the subjects of her work.</p>
<p>I look at the complex interaction of these two intellectual worlds in order to discover insights into how monster hunting fits into the broader context of the history of science in America.  I think you would enjoy my talk and not find it insulting at all or any kind of &#8220;attack.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I also have a scholarly peer reviewed article coming out on this later this year in the journal <em>Annals of Science</em>.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Brian Regal, PhD</p>
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