Crypto-Cat-Fight Goes International
Posted by: Loren Coleman on May 10th, 2006
The New Straits Times has decided to step into the middle of the American crypto-cat-fight over the Malaysian melodrama. Here’s what they are saying…
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The New Straits Times
Identification key to protecting Johor Bigfoot
10 May 2006 By R. Sittamparam
JOHOR BARU: Until researchers have determined the species and family of the Johor Bigfoot, its only completely safe haven is Johor. The Wildlife Department says scientific identification is a prerequisite for declaring it a totally protected species.
The State Government has announced total protection for Bigfoot. This means it is forbidden to injure, capture, kill or transport the animal out of the State.
Wildlife Department Biodiversity Conservation Division director Siti Hawa Yatim said it would be difficult to provide protection to an unknown creature.
“The footprints and sightings are not enough for us to act on. We have no way of providing protection for unknown animals under the Wildlife Protection Act.”
Siti Hawa said if there was sufficient proof of Bigfoot’s existence, it could be listed as a rare species and protected.
Her division had not made any move to investigate as the State Government had not furnished the department with any convincing reports so far, required for the Wildlife Department to order the installation of devices such as camera traps and sound monitors in the areas with sightings.
On claims that a baby Bigfoot had been captured by a team of men in vehicles bearing Wildlife Department markings, she said the department had mounted no such expedition.
Meanwhile, two American-based Bigfoot web sites, BFRO and Cryptomundo, are at loggerheads over a New Straits Times report on a Bigfoot book to be published soon.
Cryptomundo broke the story of the book, which is said to include photographs of the Johor Bigfoot, last week. BFRO, which has long been following the story, says Cryptomundo has been too patronising in its coverage.
Thanks to Cryptomundo informant Bennymac for pointing out this article, just published.
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Loren Coleman is one of the world’s leading cryptozoologists, some say “the” leading living cryptozoologist. Certainly, he is acknowledged as the current living American researcher and writer who has most popularized cryptozoology in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Starting his fieldwork and investigations in 1960, after traveling and trekking extensively in pursuit of cryptozoological mysteries, Coleman began writing to share his experiences in 1969. An honorary member of Ivan T. Sanderson’s Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained in the 1970s, Coleman has been bestowed with similar honorary memberships of the North Idaho College Cryptozoology Club in 1983, and in subsequent years, that of the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club, CryptoSafari International, and other international organizations. He was also a Life Member and Benefactor of the International Society of Cryptozoology (now-defunct).
Loren Coleman’s daily blog, as a member of the Cryptomundo Team, served as an ongoing avenue of communication for the ever-growing body of cryptozoo news from 2005 through 2013. He returned as an infrequent contributor beginning Halloween week of 2015.
Coleman is the founder in 2003, and current director of the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland, Maine.
“Cryptomundo has been too patronising”??? Please read John Kirk’s second sentence in his article Sasquatch In The Yukon to explain this.
With all due respect Loren, while you have been taking a higher road, and for the most part only posting links to and/or repostings of the BFRO content with little personal commentary, maybe it’s time to nip this in the bud and start ignoring the childish rantings of Moneymaker and crew.
I can’t say that I would have been as collected as you have, especially with the specific replacement of “pulp bloggers” with your name (OK, I can guarantee I wouldn’t have been as nice as you were).
But right now this “catfight” it taking on the uncomfortable aura of one of those cases where a beligerent bully has decided to pick on someone who just dodges his punches and pathetically begins wearing himself out swinging at air.
The record is here, on this site. We know what has been going on. Anyone who cares to know has the past commentary to access here. Any who do not care to dig will not be swayed anyway.
Best to just walk away from it in my opinion.
One thing I hear over and over is that if the resources (meaning time, people, and money) were available to do proper research in sufficient amounts, the hairy man could have been conclusively proven or disproven by now. If all the various sasquatch groups banded together instead of each going poorly on its on way, the funding would be big enough to do this. With the current situation as it is, the squatch could be extinct before we all work together.
Doug says:
If all the various sasquatch groups banded together instead of each going poorly on its on way, the funding would be big enough to do this.
Doug, I’m not sure where you get the notion that there is big (any?) funding in Sasquatch research.
In the eternal words of the great Jethro Bodine, “Naught plus naught equals naught.”
I think the BFRO should just keep talking and all will see the “BIG FOOT HANGING OUT OF THEIR MOUTH”. You know the old saying open mouth insert foot well the BFRO seems to be very good at it. This site is by far the best in the business. Mr. Coleman the slams on you from the BFRO has got to be getting VERY old by now if not somewhat comical on their part.
“if not somewhat comical on their part.”
As I said before, I’m almost embarrassed for the BFRO now.
Abominable!
And so it rumbles on and on..
Time to turn the other cheek, let people state what they like and get on with whats important surely.
At the end of the day (its night!Boom Boom!) most of the posters on here are working or in someway (posting , blogging etc) representing non profit making organisations/websites etc so we can get on with discussing interesting and informative findings or developments without the need to attract the paying public to ‘excursions’.
With no sales pitch needed why are we even entertaining this pointless and withdrawn argument-why not just take the high ground and let others continue to waffle.
Surely its better to be quiet and let people assume we are ignorant than to open our mouths and remove all doubt…