Comments on: C2C Guest Blows It On Patterson-Gimlin

By: Loren Coleman

Loren Coleman — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:31:09 +0000

A few points regarding hudgeliberal’s comment need to be registered:

The blog posting was about Marlowe’s C2C remarks, not about any of M. K. Davis’s radio appearances, please note.

This kind of comment extends the type of teasing of “potential great discoveries” that we have heard from the Davis camp for years and years now. “What Paulides and company come up with later this year” is merely more of the same.

Also, here too is the further tease of “special knowledge” and “more evidence” only known and held by a few when hudgeliberal says, “Who knows what Mrs.Patterson has told MK,who knows what is on the second film?”

Come on.

Finally, hudgeliberal gives us the ultimate argumentum ad hominem that just because M. K. Davis is a good guy ~ which was not under dispute in this blog posting ~ his “massacre theory,” in some way, carries more weight.

Sorry, no, it is all about the merit of the theory, not the man or woman, folks.

By: hudgeliberal

hudgeliberal — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:08:33 +0000

I think,forgotten amongst all this,is the fact that Davis,while many may disagree with his opinion,is a decent man that has never uttered one bad word about anyone in all his appearances on various radio shows. He has been held over the fire,banished to EB world and treated as a scourge all because he spoke an OPINION. Whether you think his theories hold water or sink to the bottom,the man has worked tirelessly on this film to try and get to the bottom of the lingering mystery. Now,depending on what Paulides and company come up with later this year,Davis could be vindicated or have his theory squashed,still,it is no reason to bash this man who is now putting as much effort into his field work as he did on the P/G film(or P/G/T as he calls it). Who knows what Mrs.Patterson has told MK,who knows what is on the second film? Funny how we can give certain people a public forum to talk about sasquatch being invisible,disabling starters on vehicles with mind power,moving between dimensions etc. and applaud them for their lies and skullduggery,yet we can take a good man who simply states his opinion and publicly skewer him at every opportunity. Well,guess the bigfoot community is no different than most of humanity and the hypocrisy is sickening. I’m not saying that Davis is a saint,he is human with faults like all of us,however,I think he been unfairly portrayed by the majority of this community and for some strange reason(maybe because he seems the decent sort)this really bothers me. While I may not agree with all of his theories on the film,the man deserves some credit for putting more effort into this field than 99 percent of the community. Peace.

By: DWA

DWA — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:07:22 +0000

BoyintheMachine:

No reason you couldn’t have seen a jaguarundi. They are reported from Arizona and Texas and they are one cryptic cat.

By: BoyintheMachine

BoyintheMachine — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:39:23 +0000

Great post but with regards to the jaguarundis, I think I might have had a sighting in my state (Oklahoma).

I was walking around a turn in the trail one evening and off the trail ahead is what I thought was the weirdest looking cat I have ever seen. The only thing I can think of was that it was a fox, but since I have never seen a fox before in the wild, I couldn’t be sure.

What made me question if it was a jaguarundis was that my impression at the time was that it was a cat, but a weird looking cat. (I can promise it wasn’t a housecat.) At the time of the sighting I have never heard of jaguarundis. Perhaps I mistook a jaguarundi for a fox?

Here’s a picture that closely matches my sighting.

The stance of the creature is almost exactly the same, except the animal I saw held it’s tail in a straighter fashion. The sighting only lasted a few seconds and the animal quickly shot off into the bushes. Again, I don’t know if it was a fox or a jaguarundi, but I can assure you it wasn’t a housecat. All I know is that at the time I though it was the weirdest looking cat I have ever seen.

By: tropicalwolf

tropicalwolf — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:53:41 +0000

Once again, DWAs elegance completely sums up my personal opinion on this matter. I would simply add that we must be critical of ourselves first, therefore decreasing the foundation of any scoftics’ claims.

(Note/Question: Is that the proper plural possessive form of scoftic?)

By: CryptoInformant 2.0

CryptoInformant 2.0 — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:47:49 +0000

I would like to preface this, my first comment under a new name (and new e-mail), first and foremost with the fact that I am very, very glad to be back after a long absence.

That being said, I think DWA pretty much nailed what needs to be said on this - Marlowe said some things that, while I doubt they were blatantly and maliciously false, were nonetheless poorly thought out and greivously misinformed. I’m glad some others in the field have enough sense to check their facts before uttering them to everyone with a radio and an interest in cryptozoology.

By: DWA

DWA — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:02:12 +0000

Crypto will never be a science until

1) The scoftics either learn to read or shut up and go away to spend time on something they know about;

2) Proponents learn to shut up about anything they know nothing about; and

3) Everybody in the field learns to think like a scientist.

The third is really easy. You NEVER say anything you cannot back up.

Sheesh. Yep, and now we’ll hear scoftics jump all over the latest “proof” that P/G is a fake.

Um, while you’re putting on this circus, guys and gals, evidence keeps coming in that there’s an animal out there.

By: airforce47

airforce47 — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:14:25 +0000

Once again Loren has done an outstanding job in reporting a difficult subject. This must be hard on him but he has turned this site and his blog into an award winning web service. Thanks again Loren for your time effort here.

I’ve had email dealings with Mr. Marlowe and consider him more than eccentric and bordering on psychotic. He isn’t as bad as EB was but his email address is blocked on my computer and I won’t accept phone calls from him.

I will in the future be highly skeptical of anything involving Mr. Marlowe and I submit that all readers of this blog should use great care in any communication with him. My best,

By: subrosa

subrosa — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:06:54 +0000

Mr. Marlowe has demonstrated once again his ‘casual contact’ with reality. Just going over his statements this past year about the ‘massacre’ and the fact that he actually contacted law enforcement about it (even though he got the wrong location) gives one the feeling that he is a little ‘off’. To present himself as a ’scientist’ and then to wildly conjecture such things without even a modicum of evidence ridicules all things ‘bigfoot’, and science in general. He has had his 15 minutes, now the best thing is to let him be forgotten.

By: springheeledjack

springheeledjack — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:52:15 +0000

And the fact that those kind of comments give more credence to the idea that the P-G footage was just a hoax–he may not have completely meant what he actually said, but it sure comes out that way.

Oh well, what are you going to do…wait til the scoftics come out of the woodwork. There I said the magic word of the week…felt good too.

in the meantime, life will go on, people will keep searching…