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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, at least they are finding more than just one tooth or a rib of just one of these.  How many of our "ancestors" taught in school was found with complete, or almost complete skull? I know that Nebraska man was proven false well before I entered school (a decade or so ago) and in biology in high school they were still teaching him as fact.  Oh, guess what was found that he was thought up from...a pig's tooth.  I give Peter Brown and his group applause for at least looking for more than a tooth, part of a jaw bone or another body part that even the best in the field has to go, "What the hell were you thinking?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, at least they are finding more than just one tooth or a rib of just one of these.  How many of our &#8220;ancestors&#8221; taught in school was found with complete, or almost complete skull? I know that Nebraska man was proven false well before I entered school (a decade or so ago) and in biology in high school they were still teaching him as fact.  Oh, guess what was found that he was thought up from&#8230;a pig&#8217;s tooth.  I give Peter Brown and his group applause for at least looking for more than a tooth, part of a jaw bone or another body part that even the best in the field has to go, &#8220;What the hell were you thinking?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: twblack</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3345</link>
		<dc:creator>twblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 02:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great story! Loren keep them coming. The more that is printed and reported is all good for the crypto interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story! Loren keep them coming. The more that is printed and reported is all good for the crypto interest.</p>
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		<title>By: kennethd</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>kennethd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I do believe that Homo floresiensis did exist and is a separate species. But, I'm not an expert so that means nothing.

Moreover, since there is little objective evidence that proves this, it will be difficult to prove without additional -- uncontaminated -- examples. With the current moratorium on further archaeological digs this evidence will not be immediately forthcoming.

The detractors case isn't any stronger. They claim that Morwood and Brown have only the one skull and fragmentary pieces to go by, well they have only one skull to go by.

My question to them would be: Is it impossible that a inherited genetic TRAIT that is characterized by a smaller than normal brain and head size should have characteristics similar to a genetic DISORDER characterized by a smaller than normal brain and head size.

It seems to me that there can only be so many ways the head and brain could be reduced in size and still be recognizably hominid and functional.

Well, those are my thoughts on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I do believe that Homo floresiensis did exist and is a separate species. But, I&#8217;m not an expert so that means nothing.</p>
<p>Moreover, since there is little objective evidence that proves this, it will be difficult to prove without additional &#8212; uncontaminated &#8212; examples. With the current moratorium on further archaeological digs this evidence will not be immediately forthcoming.</p>
<p>The detractors case isn&#8217;t any stronger. They claim that Morwood and Brown have only the one skull and fragmentary pieces to go by, well they have only one skull to go by.</p>
<p>My question to them would be: Is it impossible that a inherited genetic TRAIT that is characterized by a smaller than normal brain and head size should have characteristics similar to a genetic DISORDER characterized by a smaller than normal brain and head size.</p>
<p>It seems to me that there can only be so many ways the head and brain could be reduced in size and still be recognizably hominid and functional.</p>
<p>Well, those are my thoughts on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Chymo</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3343</link>
		<dc:creator>Chymo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ebu Gogo would be considerably more sophisticated than Lucy.

We do not have evidence of early man making rafts or similar, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If early primitive man made wooden constructs, we would never know, since the evidence would decay.

Ebu Gogo may have reached Flores thru' processes we do not yet recognise. Perhaps it is part of a sub species that was widely spread before the current land mass configurations, &#38; the evidence on Flores is simply the first to turn up or be recognised? We have to do more research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ebu Gogo would be considerably more sophisticated than Lucy.</p>
<p>We do not have evidence of early man making rafts or similar, but absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If early primitive man made wooden constructs, we would never know, since the evidence would decay.</p>
<p>Ebu Gogo may have reached Flores thru&#8217; processes we do not yet recognise. Perhaps it is part of a sub species that was widely spread before the current land mass configurations, &amp; the evidence on Flores is simply the first to turn up or be recognised? We have to do more research.</p>
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		<title>By: greatanarch</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3342</link>
		<dc:creator>greatanarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 17:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is just australopithecus or similar, how did it cross to Flores? The island is the wrong side of the Wallace Line. I can believe in a group of homo erectus building boats and navigating, but Lucy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is just australopithecus or similar, how did it cross to Flores? The island is the wrong side of the Wallace Line. I can believe in a group of homo erectus building boats and navigating, but Lucy?</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3341</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think the Martin "finding" was peer-reviewed.  It was a "technical report" of a summary of thoughts that is based on a paper that has not been accepted by any journal yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think the Martin &#8220;finding&#8221; was peer-reviewed.  It was a &#8220;technical report&#8221; of a summary of thoughts that is based on a paper that has not been accepted by any journal yet.</p>
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		<title>By: scmarlowe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>scmarlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 14:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! The wonders of peer review.

Don't you just love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! The wonders of peer review.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you just love it!</p>
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		<title>By: Redoubt</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3339</link>
		<dc:creator>Redoubt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 13:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debunking is an established industry. Regardless of the science or subject, dedicated debunkers will spend what would otherwise be useful lives in pursuit of disproving something.

Professional debunkers are spread across the entire spectrum of research into the unknown. Five hundred ago, they argued the Earth was flat. A little over a century back, they said that heavier than air vehicles would never fly. They have always been with us creating doubt and distrust. So, to have them pop up here with Homo floresiensis, is no real surprise.

Now, before I am fallen upon as if by a pack of wild dogs for such heresy, let me state clearly: A certain amount of skepticism, a degree of cautionary doubt is very healthy. But debunking for the sake of debunking is as ridiculous as blind faith just for the sake of being a believer. Both are extremes and those who practice them are extremists teetering on the far ends of their respective polarities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debunking is an established industry. Regardless of the science or subject, dedicated debunkers will spend what would otherwise be useful lives in pursuit of disproving something.</p>
<p>Professional debunkers are spread across the entire spectrum of research into the unknown. Five hundred ago, they argued the Earth was flat. A little over a century back, they said that heavier than air vehicles would never fly. They have always been with us creating doubt and distrust. So, to have them pop up here with Homo floresiensis, is no real surprise.</p>
<p>Now, before I am fallen upon as if by a pack of wild dogs for such heresy, let me state clearly: A certain amount of skepticism, a degree of cautionary doubt is very healthy. But debunking for the sake of debunking is as ridiculous as blind faith just for the sake of being a believer. Both are extremes and those who practice them are extremists teetering on the far ends of their respective polarities.</p>
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		<title>By: Chymo</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>Chymo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 01:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The evidence weighs in favour of the existance of Ebu Gogo as a discrete species.

If I was asked to make a prediction, I would say that more bone samples will inevitably be found. I would also wager that examples of the species may exist, overlooked, in a dusty museum drawer somewhere, labelled as a mutant or deformed individual.

I would be interested in speculation on whether the species existed outside Flores. My gut reaction would be that it did, or does.

12,000 years is not very long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The evidence weighs in favour of the existance of Ebu Gogo as a discrete species.</p>
<p>If I was asked to make a prediction, I would say that more bone samples will inevitably be found. I would also wager that examples of the species may exist, overlooked, in a dusty museum drawer somewhere, labelled as a mutant or deformed individual.</p>
<p>I would be interested in speculation on whether the species existed outside Flores. My gut reaction would be that it did, or does.</p>
<p>12,000 years is not very long.</p>
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		<title>By: Chymo</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/browndsdebunk/#comment-3337</link>
		<dc:creator>Chymo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas! Poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio. A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas! Poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio. A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.</p>
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