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		<title>By: Point Radix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Point Radix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now &quot;Survival International&quot; (the global movement for tribal peoples) has something further to add to the claims &amp; counter-claims that have emerged with &lt;a title=&quot;this story&quot; href=&quot;http://www.survival-international.org/news/3400&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this story&lt;/a&gt;.

Hopefully, this is the last update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now &#8220;Survival International&#8221; (the global movement for tribal peoples) has something further to add to the claims &amp; counter-claims that have emerged with <a title="this story" href="http://www.survival-international.org/news/3400" rel="nofollow">this story</a>.</p>
<p>Hopefully, this is the last update.</p>
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		<title>By: Point Radix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Point Radix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would have been a nice story, but...



&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91536&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;THE NOT-SO-LOST TRIBE&lt;/a&gt;

by Mike Krumboltz - June 23, 2008

A few months ago, mainstream news outlets reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim. As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain&#039;t &quot;lost.&quot; In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910.

The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group. The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been a nice story, but&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/91536" rel="nofollow">THE NOT-SO-LOST TRIBE</a></p>
<p>by Mike Krumboltz &#8211; June 23, 2008</p>
<p>A few months ago, mainstream news outlets reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim. As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain&#8217;t &#8220;lost.&#8221; In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910.</p>
<p>The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group. The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.
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		<title>By: voodoochild</title>
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		<dc:creator>voodoochild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really can&#039;t discern much, as far as the facial features of the &quot;black figure&quot;.
however, i&#039;m wondering if it has occurred to anyone who questions any anomalous features that might be present on this figure, that this is a human wearing some sort of ceremonial or shamanistic mask?
this would completely explain any distortion or anomalous features of this particular figure&#039;s face.
native americans in north america adorned (and perhaps, still adorn) a myriad of different masks (depending on the tribe and/or purpose.) some of them quite dramatic and grotesque, with exaggerated and distorted features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really can&#8217;t discern much, as far as the facial features of the &#8220;black figure&#8221;.<br />
however, i&#8217;m wondering if it has occurred to anyone who questions any anomalous features that might be present on this figure, that this is a human wearing some sort of ceremonial or shamanistic mask?<br />
this would completely explain any distortion or anomalous features of this particular figure&#8217;s face.<br />
native americans in north america adorned (and perhaps, still adorn) a myriad of different masks (depending on the tribe and/or purpose.) some of them quite dramatic and grotesque, with exaggerated and distorted features.</p>
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		<title>By: dotadot</title>
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		<dc:creator>dotadot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing I thought about when I saw these pictures was the chapter on the Maricoxi in Ivan T. Sanderson&#039;s &quot;THINGS&quot;. Anyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing I thought about when I saw these pictures was the chapter on the Maricoxi in Ivan T. Sanderson&#8217;s &#8220;THINGS&#8221;. Anyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Goldseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture is very interesting. It makes me wonder if Col. Fawcett was right. In his book that is son put together after his death. &quot;Lost Trails Lost Cities&quot;. He talks about hearing stories from other tribes that there was a very fierce tribe of humanoids that he described as being Trog like. He said that they were black, hairy and strong. Perhaps this one of there females. It would be in the right area. Since Fawcett is the one who helped figure out the bounderies of Bolivia, Brazil and Peru. Or it could be a female indian painted black or a hoax, but the face of the black female is plainly differant then the indian men. Their faces are longer with narrow jaws nad the black woman&#039;s jaw appears to be very square. If it&#039;s real she&#039;s probable from a differant tribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture is very interesting. It makes me wonder if Col. Fawcett was right. In his book that is son put together after his death. &#8220;Lost Trails Lost Cities&#8221;. He talks about hearing stories from other tribes that there was a very fierce tribe of humanoids that he described as being Trog like. He said that they were black, hairy and strong. Perhaps this one of there females. It would be in the right area. Since Fawcett is the one who helped figure out the bounderies of Bolivia, Brazil and Peru. Or it could be a female indian painted black or a hoax, but the face of the black female is plainly differant then the indian men. Their faces are longer with narrow jaws nad the black woman&#8217;s jaw appears to be very square. If it&#8217;s real she&#8217;s probable from a differant tribe.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jerrywayne sez:

&quot;However, what does bother me, for one, is the attitude that bigfoot is virtually established (as a reality, and an ape at that), which is simply not true.&quot;

No, it&#039;s not true.  What is true is that there is far more evidence for the sasquatch  than there is for almost any other species that has ever existed prior to its formal confirmation by science.

To say otherwise is - I have to keep saying this - to openly profess utter ignorance of the evidence.

There sure is more evidence for the sas than there was for these members of our own species, wot?  The analogy is precise and correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jerrywayne sez:</p>
<p>&#8220;However, what does bother me, for one, is the attitude that bigfoot is virtually established (as a reality, and an ape at that), which is simply not true.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not true.  What is true is that there is far more evidence for the sasquatch  than there is for almost any other species that has ever existed prior to its formal confirmation by science.</p>
<p>To say otherwise is &#8211; I have to keep saying this &#8211; to openly profess utter ignorance of the evidence.</p>
<p>There sure is more evidence for the sas than there was for these members of our own species, wot?  The analogy is precise and correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Point Radix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Point Radix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be conflicting information as to whether this is a “recently contacted” or still an “uncontacted” tribe. The whole concept of “contacted” and “uncontacted” is biased to the point of being meaningless, in any case. Contact with whom (and from whose perspective)? Are we to believe that the design of their structures as well as, the bows and arrows, was completely independent of other humans? Then it is highly unlikely that they would be identical to the design used by tribes everywhere.

As long as those labelled as “uncontacted” have any form of contact with other tribes, they would be very much aware of the “modern” society. It is extremely difficult to believe that they were totally unaware prior to the fly-over photography session. The very reaction of defensiveness or defiance shown in some of the aerial photos almost proves that they are VERY aware of us (and what the implications of our “civilization” are for their traditions, lifestyles and forest resources).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be conflicting information as to whether this is a “recently contacted” or still an “uncontacted” tribe. The whole concept of “contacted” and “uncontacted” is biased to the point of being meaningless, in any case. Contact with whom (and from whose perspective)? Are we to believe that the design of their structures as well as, the bows and arrows, was completely independent of other humans? Then it is highly unlikely that they would be identical to the design used by tribes everywhere.</p>
<p>As long as those labelled as “uncontacted” have any form of contact with other tribes, they would be very much aware of the “modern” society. It is extremely difficult to believe that they were totally unaware prior to the fly-over photography session. The very reaction of defensiveness or defiance shown in some of the aerial photos almost proves that they are VERY aware of us (and what the implications of our “civilization” are for their traditions, lifestyles and forest resources).</p>
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		<title>By: jerrywayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photos are cool. My first thought: the film &quot;Emerald Forest&quot;. In that movie, a family is  picnicking near a rain forest when their young son wonders only a few feet away, into the woods. He is &quot;kidnapped&quot; by a tribe of &quot;invisibles&quot; and is raised as one of them. The boy&#039;s father spends a decade in an on and off search for his son. The film offers a very sympathetic portrayal of the Native Americans depicted.

In our not too distant past, our Western minds would look at these peoples and think &quot;primitive&quot; and &quot;barbaric&quot; and otherwise inferior to us. That view is hard to maintain today, when on virtually any street corner in the good old USA we find the heavily tattooed and body pierced folk in ball caps and tattered jeans. Who is the more primitive looking?

As to Endroren&#039;s comments: I personally believe bigfoot is a mixture of contemporary myth and hoax. Yet, I&#039;m not dogmatic about it and do not assume it is the only &quot;correct&quot; way of looking at the issue. So I welcome varying points of view, including Endroren&#039;s notion linking bigfoot and native peoples in a hypothetical. We should be open to various ideas.

However, what does bother me, for one, is the attitude that bigfoot is virtually established (as a reality, and an ape at that), which is simply not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The photos are cool. My first thought: the film &#8220;Emerald Forest&#8221;. In that movie, a family is  picnicking near a rain forest when their young son wonders only a few feet away, into the woods. He is &#8220;kidnapped&#8221; by a tribe of &#8220;invisibles&#8221; and is raised as one of them. The boy&#8217;s father spends a decade in an on and off search for his son. The film offers a very sympathetic portrayal of the Native Americans depicted.</p>
<p>In our not too distant past, our Western minds would look at these peoples and think &#8220;primitive&#8221; and &#8220;barbaric&#8221; and otherwise inferior to us. That view is hard to maintain today, when on virtually any street corner in the good old USA we find the heavily tattooed and body pierced folk in ball caps and tattered jeans. Who is the more primitive looking?</p>
<p>As to Endroren&#8217;s comments: I personally believe bigfoot is a mixture of contemporary myth and hoax. Yet, I&#8217;m not dogmatic about it and do not assume it is the only &#8220;correct&#8221; way of looking at the issue. So I welcome varying points of view, including Endroren&#8217;s notion linking bigfoot and native peoples in a hypothetical. We should be open to various ideas.</p>
<p>However, what does bother me, for one, is the attitude that bigfoot is virtually established (as a reality, and an ape at that), which is simply not true.</p>
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		<title>By: dvdw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 14:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I copied this description with respect to understanding that if this isn&#039;t a hoax, than what we have here is a group of people who have not separated from the bi/tri cameral mind, and therefore their actions will be extrapolated according to different logics. This tribe is near Peru, and may be root cousins of the aymara culture, though they may not even have knowledge of that. a homogeneous population that coexists in the present  with animism, dream time, lives a life completely separate from our own.

Before the breakdown of the bicameral mind, before the rise of ego-sphere-based conscious awareness, however, human apperception was rooted in feeling, dream-time, animistic identity transparency -- and the logics employed to order cognition were not of the binary order of value. That this was so has recently received strong support from the demonstration that Aymara, the ancient language of the Andes, is based upon a 3-valued logic. (See: http://www.aymara.org/ and in particular the chapter entitled: “The Trivalent Logic of Aymara” which you get to by clicking on “bibliography” and then on “Logical and Linguistic Problems…”)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I copied this description with respect to understanding that if this isn&#8217;t a hoax, than what we have here is a group of people who have not separated from the bi/tri cameral mind, and therefore their actions will be extrapolated according to different logics. This tribe is near Peru, and may be root cousins of the aymara culture, though they may not even have knowledge of that. a homogeneous population that coexists in the present  with animism, dream time, lives a life completely separate from our own.</p>
<p>Before the breakdown of the bicameral mind, before the rise of ego-sphere-based conscious awareness, however, human apperception was rooted in feeling, dream-time, animistic identity transparency &#8212; and the logics employed to order cognition were not of the binary order of value. That this was so has recently received strong support from the demonstration that Aymara, the ancient language of the Andes, is based upon a 3-valued logic. (See: <a href="http://www.aymara.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aymara.org/</a> and in particular the chapter entitled: “The Trivalent Logic of Aymara” which you get to by clicking on “bibliography” and then on “Logical and Linguistic Problems…”)</p>
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		<title>By: jules</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone came to a headhunter and said &quot;sign this please&quot;, saying that it can&#039;t be done anymore, there would be a new trophy head about the village.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone came to a headhunter and said &#8220;sign this please&#8221;, saying that it can&#8217;t be done anymore, there would be a new trophy head about the village.</p>
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