Latest Claim: “We Have A Body of Bigfoot!”
Posted by: Loren Coleman on July 17th, 2008
Here is the latest from bigfoottracker.com:
Yes!!!!!!! It’s true, we have a body of bigfoot. We will start to release pictures and videos next month of the body, also we have clear video of Bigfoot alive. Thanks for your support.
100% real no fakes, no scams, we gain nothing til we prove it.
BigfootTracker.com China expedition in March of 2009!!!!!
We will catch Bigfoot alive in 08/09. Guaranteed
We will make you a believer!
Are you ready?
Show me the body!
Come on, just show me the body! Or better yet, if you are afraid of someone in cryptozoology stealing your thunder, hey, show Robin Meade or Bill Schneider at CNN. Or show Bill Geist at CBS News or Jon Daly at Comedy Central.
Just show someone.
Why wait?
- Similar Phenomena:
Maybe these guys can’t show the body because the guy’s wife is using the SUV to visit her parents out of state for the rest of the month! But once she is back, our fearless boys have a ride then they can take a reporter out to see the “body”! Ha ha ha! These guys kill me!
-Who are these guys? And are they for real? If you got it then show it…Perhaps they were out drinking and just think they got the big guy.
Johor Mk.II
This is quite a claim. Based on previous such claims, I don’t feel terribly optimistic that this one will pan out, so to speak. But who knows? maybe we’ll all be bowled over in another couple of weeks, when “next month” rolls around. I’m not holding my breath though.
Hello there everyone.
It really saddens me to see real efforts of serious people who toil everyday to bring truth to light be twarted by such attempts at self publicizing. Ok they have a business which thrives on taking people outdoors to look for Bigfoot and the like but what’s the need of going public making such a claim?
I really suggest legal action be taken by those who live in the US against the people responsible by Bigfoottracker if all of this proves to be a hoax. It’s one thing to go outside and shoot yourself with an ape suit and then divulge the video as “entertainment” or “comedy” on Youtube. Another entirely diferent matter is to claim to have a boddy in order to profit on it by selling outdoor trips, shirts or whatever. That should teach any other future hoaxers to not go public with such statements unles they really mean it.
Cheers.
PT Barnum is alive and well apparently!
Marketing ploys such as this, used to sell “expeditions” for financial gain of the seller, are not worth my time to type a comment.
They have one upped Biscardi. At least Biscardi does not make a “guarantee”. At least Biscardi is up front about it and sells on having a good time with like-minded people and bonding as a selling point.
What will happen, it people will book the trip based on the pretense that these gentlemen(using the term gentlemen loosely), already have a BF, so they must be the real deal. The body will turn out to be some decomposing bear. At that point, they already have the revenue and profit for their trip. Then they will only have to back up their guarantee. Good luck doing that! No one even has a good photograph of a BF and they guarantee to capture one alive. LOL Sure they will!
What did PT Barnum say? Something about a sucker being born…..
Hear, hear, Loren…
Although, I must say—Bill Schneider???
What’s he gonna do? Do a poll on the percentage of people who think Sasquatch is a Republican or Democrat?
Robin Meade is basically something good to look at in the morning. Hate to be a cynical, mean so-and-so, but that’s my take. Occasionally she gets good stories, mostly human interest-related, but she’s not on the level of, let’s say, Paula Zahn.
Now that’s somebody who would do a great job with this. She did good with you when you were on her show, so she would do great with Ol’ Hairy.
Katie Couric, maybe? Tom Brokaw?
Anyway, just kidding. Know what you mean entirely.
Once again, hear, hear.
I highly doubt these guys actually have a body. There is nothing stopping them from releasing the video and photos today, so what’s so important about next month?
What happens if these guys have in their possession a corpse of a bigfoot? this could be history in the making, only if they are telling the truth but seeing is believing only if it isnt a man in a gorrilla suit, remember what happened with the johor bigffot everyone was exicted they thought this is it the real thing but it was a lie fooled again. So what we have do is just wait and see what these fellows have and we will have to decide after looking at the pictures are real or not.
Well, if they DID have a Bigfoot body, the combination of legal maneuvering, and arranging all of the best possible marketing and cashflow opportunities, would take about that long. In that interim, they’d be showing their stuff ONLY to the directly interested parties, under an NDA.
For my part, I sure hope those boys paid for use of the Knight Rider soundtrack, or they’ll end up paying all their money to Hollywood, rather than getting it FROM Hollywood.
They seem pretty confident that they have the real thing and will shock the world, lets see it then
I heard Bill Schneider speak at my son’s graduation in May, and I was impressed with his insights into the cultural history of these times. I would be happy to have an intelligent observer, from outside our field, view this body, journalistically. Take your pick. I registered mine, all for different but good reasons to me, of course.
Right now, this does sound an awful lot like the early days of the Johor Bigfoot scenario and Biscardi’s “I’ve got a Bigfoot in a shed” appearances on C2C.
Heaven help us.
This comment thread is funny. The believers-in-bigfoot are the most cynical the first time someone says “I have it!”
It reminds me of the Klaus Emmerichs photos of the thylacine (Tasmanian tiger) in 2005. Of course the photos weren’t published for 14 months because the original sales/licence contract with media organisations fell through. At that point Mr Emmerichs stood to gain nothing by publicising his photos for free, except to watch the media moguls make a profit while they publicised the story – so he didn’t publish them.
Let’s hope if this bigfoot claim is true that the bf-undertakers are quicker off the mark with selling rights to the media … if the media are biting, that is.
I guess we will have to wait wonder is this real this is it the real thing but on the other hand we have to be careful in not getting too exicted in this possible find.
I agree with you can, i know everyone claims oh i have bigfoot this is it then when you see it its all for nothing.
They have the Body of a Bigfoot?
Maybe they should see a good Hair Removal Therapist…
Habeas Corpus. Or they should shut the hell up. In this particular case, I think the popular Internet saying applies: “Pics or it didn’t happen”.
I really hope they have a REAL body, although it would mean a Bigfoot was killed; it would still provide proof of the existence of such creatures. But I doubt they do, because if you had the corpse of the second most famous cryptid in the world, why would wait? They run a Bigfoot touring business! Think of all the people that would flock to them if they could prove they’d encounter it once, and claimed they could do it again. I think this is a marketing technique, and a rather underhanded one at that!
In the meantime, Tim Peterson just relisted his Bigfoot hunter auction on eBay for $150,000.
I hear you, Loren.
Like I said, I was just joking. I actually like Bill Schneider. And Robin Meade’s Ok.
I really hope these guys come through. I believe one of the individuals involved is a police officer. Does anybody know who these guys are??? If your reading this blog bigfoottracker.com and your for real, then don’t forget about Bill Green, Loren Coleman and Dr. Jeff Meldrum!
@youcantryreachingme : Well maybe that’s because we’ve been foiled by people with too much time on their hands over and over again.
Pranksters are the bane of this field and so are hoaxers.
I really do hope the guys over at BFT really have a Bigfoot body in their freezer waiting to be unveiled to the world at large. I assume when they are indeed found it will all start with a body or maybe a photo but hey, if these guys are the real deal they’re doing it wrong.
I’d go to CNN, CBS or even Coast to Coast. I’d bring in someone from the field who’d add substance to my claim. I’d do loads but to say it on my website.
I have my fingers crossed these guys show us something incredible. If not I’d only wish proper legal action was taken againt them by any who feel conned. I would if I lived in the US or were an US citizen.
Other than that looking forward for the upcoming weeks.
Maybe they should sell some of the pics and have their website redesigned so it doesn’t make me sick.
hey everyone, great new update about this possible sasquatch body situation. wow i can just see these people on cnn or fox news claiming they have sasquatch body. oboy i bet it would realy put a shock with the reporters among other stuff. but im still skeptical of this sasquatch body situation. unless these people realy have a body it still wont solve the sasquatch mystery it just deepen it with more question less answers. thanks bill green
I repeat…”Stinks on ice”
I expect a gorilla suit frozen in an ice block picture at any time as “proof”! Which I will at least enjoy for its’ originality. SQATCH ON A STICK!
Their legal representation is not making a statement but they are?
Would it be impolite to suggest a group mooning photo be sent to the reported bigfoot killers?
Is there any connection of these people to M.K.Davis?
My gut feeling (which actually has a higher IQ than my common sense) tells me that their claim is false. But I really hope that my gut feeling is wrong!
Frankly I don’t want to hear any more about it unless they produce some evidence of the body…this reeks of Johor….we have a bigfoot….more information will come….pictures will come…..blah, blah, blah….if you got one, show it…otherwise go back to your six million dollar man bloodhounds and tracking parties in the wilderness…..
There is clearly only one man to report on this topic, he has brought America’s attention to unknown threats such as bears…
Steven Colbert, you have been a vigilant voice for America, but now crypto-zoology calls, will you call back?
I’m just joking (although I personally feel Colbert can do no wrong)
In all seriousness I do hope that the gents over at BigfootTracker.com aren’t trying to pull a fast one, a lot of hopes have been crushed by such claims and if people who promote themselves as real and legitimate big foot trackers are doing this it just makes it that much worse and will make genuine Squatchers look bad. I’m glad to see an update because I am very interested in this and look forward to more updates.
A fake frozen big foot would redifine the whole concept of chunky monkey! I personally would love to see what they have, if it’s real that would be huge and put penn and teller in there place!
One thing I think everyone’s failed to mention thus far is that there could be one very good reason besides legal issues or never having had a body that these folks seem to be having trouble showing it. Acording to Amerindian legend, after all, the Sasquatch are supposed to be shapeshifters; there is always the possibility these dudes did have a body at one point, but it’s been little by little sinking into another dimension or quantum zone. This could in fact explain the lack of Bigfoot carcasses in general very neatly. Hey, I didn’t say it was probable.
Hmm i feel they do have it…Let’s just wait people…golly.. i know i know… i want to see it to.
but one thing for sure.. think this:
what if you were in his position.. how would you show us…. if you ever wanted us to wait… why?
if i where them..
i would think carefully first… cause wow, this would shock the world.. and how would i show it???
should i first post it on myspace? Godtube? youtube? cryptozoology.com? genesispark.org? S8int.com? cryptomundo.com? or the news? or my city first???
and if you didn’t have a camera or a camera to connect it to the computer.. then if that’s them, then wait.. till they upload it… golly people.
unless their going to use a video camera…. but i say wait… they may be going through something right now that is causing them to make us wait….
i wouldn’t jump to conclusions right away ya know…
Claims, T-shirts sales, and so on. Nonsense. The body would speak for itself without a lot of hype. Evidence is evidence, and stories are just that until proven otherwise. In the world of science, it is evidence, not bold and unsubstantiated claims, that drives our knowledge forward and amends what we know or think we know about the natural world. If we had to investigate and devote serious time to every remarkable claim like this ever made, we would never learn anything new. I won’t say this is all phony, but how would I know otherwise? So put forward your data, gentlemen. If not, stop wasting everyone’s time, I’d say.
I find t’s best to put this one out of your mind for the now and, remembering all the past claims and such, expect within your heart of hearts it’s a false claim. Not saying it is, but if it is, it’s always easier to accept that way. Always expect the least.
Then again, they could be having trouble with the Sasquatch themselves. American legend says Squatchter’s da Boss, no? An’ you don’ shoot da’ Boss, see? Do that an’ his friends’ll deal with ya’, see? He’s got friends in high places, see? Is it just possible these guys’ legal trouble is with the brother of the Bigfoot they shot? Or maybe their possession of the body is bad for so many of our hair-clad forest friends they need to make a deal with the SOA (Sasquatch of America) not to show it to the awaiting public?
On a serious note, if Bigfoot are a strain of humans, maybe infected with hypertrichosis, (an excessive hair-growth disorder) then the time taken to share the full info would certainly be understandable. Perhaps, if this is so, more of the “Bigfoot” have come forward to the cadaver keepers, requesting silence. They might just want their peace and quiet from the outside world, seeing what the old-worlders did to the Amerindians. Not saying it’s likely, but one must be open to all possibilities.
At this point I can’t wait for next Summer’s big hoax!
Whats this we gain nothing until we prove it stuff. Heck they gain the hits to there website, and money off of product purchases from their visitors. Those guys seem way hokey!!!
I don’t buy it.
The guarantee of capturing one alive in China (where you can be lucky enough to be present if you fork over enough cash) seals the deal for me, and I’d definitely think twice about accompanying somebody to the People’s Republic to participate in a questionable activity that is sure to generate a certain amount of local publicity.
Common Sense clues from BFT website: no evidence that they own a 4 x 4, bloodhounds or other gear mentioned. guy in a tree with a rope? Akita as “submission” dog. Listen to the voice of the “old lady” during the “investigation” – sounds like something from Monty Python. Selling trips, t-shirts etc.
Overall common sense clues: (as expressed by other commenters) size of freezer required for a BF body. Legal aspects could probably be handled quickly. No need to continue “expeditions” and sale of t-shirts, you will make plenty of $$$ from body. No need to release comments before actual body or pics. 40 years since PGF with no other “proof” and now these guys have film, body and guarantee a live capture?
If anyone thinks there is any possibility of this being real, you are going to be disappointed – sorry.
Wow, what a reaction from people that read this site presumably because they believe in the possibility of bigfoot. With that presumption, it is mind-boggling to see the prejudice displayed here. One smart fellow even thinks we should call in the lawyers to sort this out, that sounds wonderful doesn’t it? I guess these guys, whoever they are, are not disclosing their find (if they have one) “scientifically” enough or with suitable dignity for the serious minds on this forum. I suppose the only person who would could convince them would be Loren Coleman. I hope they do have something, not only for what it would mean, but just so the closed-minded know-it-alls here would perhaps learn something about judgment. I will do one thing: wait.
Ahh..the **** just gets deeper doesnt it? I think this is going to be some kind of hoax or a joke on the bigfoot community. Hey,I learned a long time ago…NEVER TRUST A COP! That is the first thing that raised my eyebrows. I just cannot see this guys supervisor(capt. whatever)letting him come out with this claim unless it is all one big joke. I dont think most police departments would let this guy come out and say this kind of stuff without really coming down hard on him. I have a friend who was a cop for 23 years and he said “No way would any legit police force allow one of their officers to come out with this type of foolishness”. If it is purely a moneymaking or attention getting scam..do they not realize that most people will not go on these expeditions or give them any money UNLESS they prove that they have a body(which I would bet my right arm that they do not have a body)? Bad vibes about this…very bad vibes. I have a feeling that this is just going to be another black eye for cryptozoology and bigfoot research in general. Why dont the idiots leave us alone? The majority of us bother no one. I think this is just another disinformation artist out there to make fun and discredit the life work of people like Krantz,Byrne,Green,Dahinden,Coleman and many others. People..do not get your hopes up. Remember,one of these guys is supposedly a cop…watch your step and what you say on the hotline.
For all believers, don’t get your hopes up. It will be quite entertaining though once this publicity stunt fails miserably. I hope all who have bought a slot for their September expedition get full refunds once this “body” hoax deflates in a month. Just curious if their local media outlets have even given these guys any attention? If their local news don’t take them serious, why should anyone believe their claims on the internet. laughable at best. If this was actually true, legal representation and all ducks would be in order PRIOR to making a statement that they have a body. Then the first time anyone would hear of this “body” would them going public in a HUGE way immediately, with the evidence and STUNNING the scientific and entire WORLD! Maybe this bigfoot body is that stolen bigfoot statue from the convenience store which made news a month ago..haha
A verified body would easily be worth $1 million, so their peddling of bigfoot expeditions to china and elsewhere makes absolutely no sense. I hate to call them stupid, but their plan is ridiculous (assuming it’s some type of ‘innocent’ hoax, like a mistaken chimp or orang). Get Jeff Meldrum to view it and release a statement that it’s an unknown primate and they’re famous the world over.
What if their body turns out to be some guy in an ape suit who was trying to make a hoax video for the Bushnell Contest, and had the bad luck to run in front of these guys?
Either these fellas are ignorant of the fact that they’re totally shooting themselves in the foot regarding their hoped-for future success in the Bigfoot expedition business (because who in their right mind would book a tour with these guys who perpetrated such a grandiose hoax) or they’ve actually, honestly, really got the goods.
Can’t wait to see how this one pans out!
Could be they’re waiting for the DNA results. They may be 89% sure they have ole BF, but with DNA results showing its a cryptologically correct specimen instead of a hairy has-been NBA player that may have been shot by accident or on purpose… I have my doubts, though. As far as a known news analyst(s) checking out the corpse, well what would he/she know about that? I vote for Loren Coleman to check it out. If he said “yep, its a bigfoot!” then I guarantee you could take that to the bank! I’m definitely no expert so I’ll believe it when Loren says its so.
If you actually have a bigfoot body, you have to be a moron to mention it to ANYONE before you have a lawyer, an agent, etc. Those people are going to bring in someone from a major media outlet to get maximum splash (unless the collector, as we all hope, is a scientifcally minded type who will bring in a scientific organization first.) I am willing to bet that, now and forever, everyone who announes on the Internet they have a body is a hoaxer.
Andrew Minnesota:
That would be a good idea to have Colbert to do this!!! LOL.
“I am Sasquatch and so can you.” Perfect.
Hey, why not Bill Moyers? Have him do it PBS-style. Maybe work in Joseph Campbell into this. That would be “interesting.”
Larrykat:
I have to respond to what you said. You are right, technically we do need to have faith and “wait,” but You Have To Understand, it is very weird and suspicious of these people to not show whatever the heck they have already. We don’t know what is on their minds, so maybe they do have a Good Reason—maybe they are trying to consult lawyers or cross their ts and dot their is before moving forward—but you cannot blame Cryptomunders for being a little bit jaded—we’ve been burned too many times for that. I really hope this is a real Sasquatch body—and I will be waiting patiently—but I’m also willing to forgive my fellow Cryptomunders for their skepticism and maybe cynicism. If it is for real, then it will be a seminal moment in the history of human scientific, spiritual, and intellectual process. If not, then the search goes on. Basically hoping that you are right and they are wrong so you can then “gloat” about it is not going to help matters.
That’s all I have to say.
MattBille responds: “I am willing to bet that, now and forever, everyone who announes on the Internet they have a body is a hoaxer. ”
Can’t say I’d want to be on the other end of that bet but it also raises a question of “What should someone actually do if they hit a bigfoot with a car or feel threatened and shoot one in self-defense etc.”
Personally, I would find a way to call Loren and if he were unavailable I’d call the police.
I really would like to believe that these guys have a real bigoot, but we’ve heard it all before. Until they produce photos, videos, DNA evidence, and hand the supposed body over to qualified scientists or examination, it’s all meaningless.
One of the things rom their website that make me suspicious is that they claim to have identified a whole family of bigfoot. If that were the case, why do they have to wait until their trip to China next year to bag a live bigfoot? Or are they waiting for more expedition bookings to come in on the back of this publicity, before they put us out of our misery? Hmmm?!
I’ve got two words for this…
NON and SENSE.
Camperguy, aren’t these guys supposed to be the police? I certainly wouldn’t want to be them if they happened to be hoaxing that (too). If these guys are on the up and up, and if they wanted to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that what they have in their possesion is indeed BF, it would be imperative that Mr. Coleman is contacted and he organize a team to examine the evidence. Other more mundane, mainstream zoologists and biologists may sweep this under the rug – such has the mainstream media and the air force with UFOs. Truthout!
NightFlight
Point taken.
I am very confident with our local police though.We also have a university nearby. Could get them involved by saying it was an “unknown animal no one could identify”
Bushnell will give them $1 million for one of their pictures. Surely if the creature is dead they can get a good closeup of it.
Why hawk t-shirts?
Woops. I see someone else made the same point. I should have looked the responses over more carefully.
Good morning Cryptos…
This subject was discussed in detail on the Alabama Bigfoot forum chat last weekend. One of the participants was a federal LE, CSI, familiar with the “Law Enforcement Officers” in question…he claimed to have viewed detailed high resolution images of the “Bigfoot” corpse…and was leaning toward authenticity.
The proposed non-refundable eco-tourism hunts in the PRC, together with the antics of BFT field capture tactics are buffoonish…nonetheless…a blind hawg finds an acorn …now and then.
There has been much speculation about the ex-felon shooter…which begs the question…what can you legally hunt in a national forest in June with a 30-06…the answer of course is nada. Unless you are an outlaw protecting an illegal crop or meth lab…then the rationale becomes apparent.
My personal boycott of all Bushnell products continues…and…if there is a grain of truth to the Bigfoot Tracker tale…and the “North American Aboriginal Peoples” are documented, BFT’s legal issues have just begun…JMHO
live and let live…
ole bub and the dawgs
Hello guys, this is my first post since I started reading this forum 2 years ago. It was the latest claim that really got me thinking.
There is a lot of credibility here at stake, so I don’t think that we should throw this claim out the window so quick.
Yes, this is probably all nonsense but let’s look at the difference in this situation from the others.
One, the person who is making these claims is a police officer. Not a rent-a-cop or a security guard (not that there is anything wrong with those occupations) but a Georgia County Police Officer. If this whole thing goes South this man has a lot to lose. I am not even touching on what his reputation would be within the BF community, but his professional life would be pretty much over. This person of the law, the one who is suppose to be an upstanding citizen and paid to enforce right from wrong through the taxes of the community can’t afford to mess around with fake claims. If this whole thing goes bad do you honestly think that his superiors would not have second thoughts on whether this man is competent enough to fulfill his duties. One of the job details is to appear in court and testify. This man would last maybe 3 minutes on the stand once the defense brings up his Bigfoot incident.
Do you see what I am saying? This police officer doesn’t really have a lot of room to play with here. Whether it’s a lie or a hoax or at the very least a bad joke, this clown just committed occupational suicide. This is not a dime a dozen job, this is a position of trust. One thing is for sure, if this is all just smoke, there will be know shortage of people wanting a piece of this guy. I could see a flood of letters to the Atlanta Office of the Attorney General right now. Time will tell.
They now have a Youtube video up introducing everyone to a primate pathologist that they have contacted and shown photos and the body. His name is Dr. Paul Van Buren, but the only Dr. Paul Van Buren I can find is a noted theologian who died in 1998. Does anyone know who this pathologist is and with what institution he is affiliated?
I’ll believe it when I see it
I just hope they didn’t shot my son! (Insert smiley face here. By the way, how do you insert those smiley faces anyway?)
Also, I have to agree with “rayval”. Having been in law enforcement, it would be occupational suicide for him or both, if it was a hoax. Their testimony in a case wouldn’t mean diddly.
Loren: What types of questions or information would you like to ask of these fellows? What team would you gather to investigate their claim? What other information or evidence should they provide at this time, if it is legit, in your opinion?
My mantra: Stinks on ice! Stinks on Ice!
As I read the Bushnell offer all they have to do is take a picture of Bigfoot with their camera. They could buy the camera take the pic(s) and have a million. I don’t recall anything saying it had to be in the woods on a game trail. Proving the photo to be real would be easy since they have the cadaver and all.
The officer can play this off as a joke later on keeping reputation intact.
Stinks on ice! Stinks on ice! Stinks on ice!
bigfootsdad: Smiley face= colon + smile above zero
CamperGuy
Thanks, but I liked the joke.
CamperGuy, Sorry, it was no joke on your part. I learn something new everyday.
But, in all seriousness, I still think it will be hard to salvage this law enforcement officer’s credibility, if in the end they claim it was all a joke.
However, I can’t help but get a little excited about their claims. Even though, time and time again, we Cryptomundians face hoaxes and frauds.
The situation with all of us is to persevere in light of all the garbage and continue to ask the hard questions and investigate/analyze the evidence.
Where did they find a freezer big enough to hold a bigfoot? Not at Sears……..
Guy #1:Hey!!!We caught Bigfoot!!!
Guy #2:…That’s not Bigfoot….it’s my Uncle Lary…
Guy #1:O_O
Police officer:We have proof that you killed Lary Jenkins while camping,please put your hands on your head.