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		<title>By: maxxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>maxxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how the heck can this be a catfish!!??????????


helloo!!!!!!</description>
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<p>helloo!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: yetimead</title>
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		<dc:creator>yetimead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not convinced it looks like an inanimate object where the camera is moving but the object is stationery.</description>
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		<title>By: Norman619</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman619</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the guys from Destination Truth are going to investigate.  They are the only ones I know of here in the US that actually do more than just interview witnesses.  They get all the proper gear and seriously try to find the cryptids they are investigating or at least evidence the witnesses are seeing something real or aren’t&#039; misidentifying some animal.  Anyway, this is the best video of an aquatic cryptid.  They can&#039;t say it&#039;s a log, a school of fish, or a sturgeon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the guys from Destination Truth are going to investigate.  They are the only ones I know of here in the US that actually do more than just interview witnesses.  They get all the proper gear and seriously try to find the cryptids they are investigating or at least evidence the witnesses are seeing something real or aren’t&#8217; misidentifying some animal.  Anyway, this is the best video of an aquatic cryptid.  They can&#8217;t say it&#8217;s a log, a school of fish, or a sturgeon.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlessedBlogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlessedBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me a bit of an Olm : &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wiki Page For Olms&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;The olm, or proteus (Proteus anguinus), is a blind amphibian endemic to the subterranean waters of caves of the Dinaric karst of southern Europe. It lives in the waters that flow underground through this extensive limestone region including waters of the Soča river basin near Trieste in Italy, through to southern Slovenia, southwestern Croatia, and Herzegovina. The olm is the only species in its genus Proteus, the only European species of the family Proteidae, and the only European exclusively cave-dwelling chordate. It is also occasionally called the &quot;human fish&quot; by locals because of its human-like skin (translated literally from Slovene: človeška ribica and Croatian: čovječja ribica), as well as &quot;cave salamander&quot; or &quot;white salamander.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me a bit of an Olm : <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm" rel="nofollow">Wiki Page For Olms</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The olm, or proteus (Proteus anguinus), is a blind amphibian endemic to the subterranean waters of caves of the Dinaric karst of southern Europe. It lives in the waters that flow underground through this extensive limestone region including waters of the Soča river basin near Trieste in Italy, through to southern Slovenia, southwestern Croatia, and Herzegovina. The olm is the only species in its genus Proteus, the only European species of the family Proteidae, and the only European exclusively cave-dwelling chordate. It is also occasionally called the &#8220;human fish&#8221; by locals because of its human-like skin (translated literally from Slovene: človeška ribica and Croatian: čovječja ribica), as well as &#8220;cave salamander&#8221; or &#8220;white salamander.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard888</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Swedish website offers 3 videos. After watching them I lost my excitement. (Part of it though could be due to language barrier as I may be missing important information.) The first video shows a creature that could be anything from a 30 foot serpent to a planktonic worm. Is there absolute proof that it is a large creature? And if so, how large is it? If it&#039;s anywhere under 10 feet long there is no point calling it a cryptid as it could be an eel. Without commentary, I am not sure what the second video shows. The third video shows a grouper-like fish that&#039;s probably a pike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Swedish website offers 3 videos. After watching them I lost my excitement. (Part of it though could be due to language barrier as I may be missing important information.) The first video shows a creature that could be anything from a 30 foot serpent to a planktonic worm. Is there absolute proof that it is a large creature? And if so, how large is it? If it&#8217;s anywhere under 10 feet long there is no point calling it a cryptid as it could be an eel. Without commentary, I am not sure what the second video shows. The third video shows a grouper-like fish that&#8217;s probably a pike.</p>
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		<title>By: Xeno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@pre-cbs&lt;/strong&gt;
Nice to see another Swede. I hope you agreed with my translation! ;)

&lt;strong&gt;@mystery_man&lt;/strong&gt;
The &quot;piece of wood&quot; (or wooden board)-thing struck me as odd too. It seems clear from the images that the object is not rigid at all (as Susanne Kindström comments with &quot;..by the pattern of movement&quot;). It is clear that the interviewer has nothing but sour grapes for this project and its findings - something very off-putting to me.
Rational inquiry and investigation should be encouraged at all times.

&lt;strong&gt;@PhotoExpert&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;I was wondering if this is a still digital image, a video captured still or if it is a thermal image from a video capture.&quot;

Looking at the projects homepage (storsjoodjuret.nu), I found this (and translated it):
The system in place today is composed of two Hi-Def cameras, one 3 and one 5 megapixel. A Hi-Def DVD has 720x576 lines of pixels. A 5 megapixel camera from UTS delivers 2048x1536 lines of pixels. [Note: this is what it says on the webpage, I have not fact checked it.]
We also have a camera of 1 megapixel monitoring the station itself. [Apparently to ward off tamperers, thieves and possibly hoaxers.]
The most interesting camera is called FLIR. It is analog, and has limited resolution BUT it is thermographic.
There are also two analog cameras, with &quot;ordinary&quot; resolution.

The system they are using to monitor the input is called Aimetis Aira V5, and is made in Canada. The purpose of this program is to identify &quot;natural&quot; movement, such as rain, and wave motion. It is designed to record only when it detects something &quot;interesting&quot;, which it then targets with the rectangle to log it into the database.

&lt;strong&gt;@mojo&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;The rectangle (and it’s red) is nowhere near the object you can see moving in the film.&quot;

The first clip shows a red rectangle, the second (very short) clip shows a blue rectangle (in the lower right corner). I added the comment about the blue rectangle because I was personally confused, since Susanne Kindström states: &quot;It is clear that it contains heat and cells, otherwise [the equipment] would not indicate &#039;red&#039;&quot;.

&lt;strong&gt;@shumway10973&lt;/strong&gt;
&quot;Xeno, really quickly, does the lake completely freeze over?&quot;

I actually had a hard time pinning this down. From what I remember from living there, all visible parts were indeed solidly frozen over. It freezes over thick enough to drive cars and snowmobiles over much of it. 
I searched for a definitive answer, but I failed to find one. It is certainly not completely frozen over &lt;em&gt;every&lt;/em&gt; season, what with the latest winters being pretty mild here.
See the fact sheet at the bottom for some detail I did find.

&quot;If not, how many non-air breathing–non-cryptids are there that could get to that size?&quot;

Like I mentioned earlier, eel and catfish are good candidates. I also found out that it is home to both beavers and otters, both of which are notorious for being responsible for &quot;cryptid&quot; sightings. However, you phrase the question with &quot;get to that size&quot; - I have to point out that (as many have already commented) we have NO information about size. Any size references as of yet are purely anecdotal.

&lt;strong&gt;FACTS ABOUT STORSJÖN&lt;/strong&gt;
Storsjön has an area of 464 km² (the fifth largest in Sweden), and a maximum depth of 74m. The average depth, however, is 17.3m. The lake floor is very varied, with many crevices, in parts with a rocky floor, in other parts with mud. In summer, the average temperature of the lake is 12-18 degrees C at the top, and 4-6º C at the bottom. In winter, the average temperature (below the ice, of course) is 4º C.
Storsjön is home to several species of fish including arctic char, grayling, common whitefish and eel. It is also home to two mammals - beavers and otters.</description>
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Nice to see another Swede. I hope you agreed with my translation! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>@mystery_man</strong><br />
The &#8220;piece of wood&#8221; (or wooden board)-thing struck me as odd too. It seems clear from the images that the object is not rigid at all (as Susanne Kindström comments with &#8220;..by the pattern of movement&#8221;). It is clear that the interviewer has nothing but sour grapes for this project and its findings &#8211; something very off-putting to me.<br />
Rational inquiry and investigation should be encouraged at all times.</p>
<p><strong>@PhotoExpert</strong><br />
&#8220;I was wondering if this is a still digital image, a video captured still or if it is a thermal image from a video capture.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looking at the projects homepage (storsjoodjuret.nu), I found this (and translated it):<br />
The system in place today is composed of two Hi-Def cameras, one 3 and one 5 megapixel. A Hi-Def DVD has 720&#215;576 lines of pixels. A 5 megapixel camera from UTS delivers 2048&#215;1536 lines of pixels. [Note: this is what it says on the webpage, I have not fact checked it.]<br />
We also have a camera of 1 megapixel monitoring the station itself. [Apparently to ward off tamperers, thieves and possibly hoaxers.]<br />
The most interesting camera is called FLIR. It is analog, and has limited resolution BUT it is thermographic.<br />
There are also two analog cameras, with &#8220;ordinary&#8221; resolution.</p>
<p>The system they are using to monitor the input is called Aimetis Aira V5, and is made in Canada. The purpose of this program is to identify &#8220;natural&#8221; movement, such as rain, and wave motion. It is designed to record only when it detects something &#8220;interesting&#8221;, which it then targets with the rectangle to log it into the database.</p>
<p><strong>@mojo</strong><br />
&#8220;The rectangle (and it’s red) is nowhere near the object you can see moving in the film.&#8221;</p>
<p>The first clip shows a red rectangle, the second (very short) clip shows a blue rectangle (in the lower right corner). I added the comment about the blue rectangle because I was personally confused, since Susanne Kindström states: &#8220;It is clear that it contains heat and cells, otherwise [the equipment] would not indicate &#8216;red&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>@shumway10973</strong><br />
&#8220;Xeno, really quickly, does the lake completely freeze over?&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually had a hard time pinning this down. From what I remember from living there, all visible parts were indeed solidly frozen over. It freezes over thick enough to drive cars and snowmobiles over much of it.<br />
I searched for a definitive answer, but I failed to find one. It is certainly not completely frozen over <em>every</em> season, what with the latest winters being pretty mild here.<br />
See the fact sheet at the bottom for some detail I did find.</p>
<p>&#8220;If not, how many non-air breathing–non-cryptids are there that could get to that size?&#8221;</p>
<p>Like I mentioned earlier, eel and catfish are good candidates. I also found out that it is home to both beavers and otters, both of which are notorious for being responsible for &#8220;cryptid&#8221; sightings. However, you phrase the question with &#8220;get to that size&#8221; &#8211; I have to point out that (as many have already commented) we have NO information about size. Any size references as of yet are purely anecdotal.</p>
<p><strong>FACTS ABOUT STORSJÖN</strong><br />
Storsjön has an area of 464 km² (the fifth largest in Sweden), and a maximum depth of 74m. The average depth, however, is 17.3m. The lake floor is very varied, with many crevices, in parts with a rocky floor, in other parts with mud. In summer, the average temperature of the lake is 12-18 degrees C at the top, and 4-6º C at the bottom. In winter, the average temperature (below the ice, of course) is 4º C.<br />
Storsjön is home to several species of fish including arctic char, grayling, common whitefish and eel. It is also home to two mammals &#8211; beavers and otters.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s head sure looks like a pit viper shape...As children in Spain my brothers and I saw one up close...But do they range into Sweden? And swim underwater? Well, I also agree that it looks salamander-ish too but no legs?! Well anyway this is an interesting video but without a scale indicator-?... we&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s head sure looks like a pit viper shape&#8230;As children in Spain my brothers and I saw one up close&#8230;But do they range into Sweden? And swim underwater? Well, I also agree that it looks salamander-ish too but no legs?! Well anyway this is an interesting video but without a scale indicator-?&#8230; we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: alcalde</title>
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		<dc:creator>alcalde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before going down this road again, just for the sake of completeness, has anyone checked the local Halloween shops first? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before going down this road again, just for the sake of completeness, has anyone checked the local Halloween shops first? <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogu4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A glacially influenced lake, deep cold waters, glacial silt sediment, sporadic sightings, no evidence that the lake could support a population the known primary terrestrial or lacustrine candidates. Sounds so much like so many of the other lake creatures. 
Presuming that the object is a large animal and not a concerted effort to misrepresent it, my vote would be for an eel, lamprey or hagfish with an indeterminate growth potential living in the nearly suspended animation for what could be long periods of time until something dies and sinks nearby at which time environmental signals would alert the local population to feed and/or reproduce. 
The sort of critter that would feast on the carcass of a cow or moose or some other megafauna washed into the lake and sink in water so cold that submerged carcasses don&#039;t produce the gasses which typically causes carcasses to inflate and float at the surface after a few days.</description>
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Presuming that the object is a large animal and not a concerted effort to misrepresent it, my vote would be for an eel, lamprey or hagfish with an indeterminate growth potential living in the nearly suspended animation for what could be long periods of time until something dies and sinks nearby at which time environmental signals would alert the local population to feed and/or reproduce.<br />
The sort of critter that would feast on the carcass of a cow or moose or some other megafauna washed into the lake and sink in water so cold that submerged carcasses don&#8217;t produce the gasses which typically causes carcasses to inflate and float at the surface after a few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Munnin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the subject of this video is, its locomotion seems very worm-like to me. Also, the only thing I can think of which looks even somewhat similar is the subject of a December 1964 photo taken off the coast of Australia, near Queensland, by Robert Serrec. It looks like a gigantic tadpole or something. That was a marine environmet, whereas this is freshwater... but like whatever that other photo shows, this thing&#039;s head is wider, or a larger diameter, compared to the rest of its serpentine, or worm-like body. Too bad, as others have said, that we don&#039;t know at least the approximate physical size of the thing. Interesting, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the subject of this video is, its locomotion seems very worm-like to me. Also, the only thing I can think of which looks even somewhat similar is the subject of a December 1964 photo taken off the coast of Australia, near Queensland, by Robert Serrec. It looks like a gigantic tadpole or something. That was a marine environmet, whereas this is freshwater&#8230; but like whatever that other photo shows, this thing&#8217;s head is wider, or a larger diameter, compared to the rest of its serpentine, or worm-like body. Too bad, as others have said, that we don&#8217;t know at least the approximate physical size of the thing. Interesting, for sure.</p>
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