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		<title>By: cryptothekid</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-outfox/#comment-44832</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptothekid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biscardi is a disgrace to the bigfoot community. Although I admit that nearly every time the media addresses Bigfoot, the journalists and/or reporters are unfairly skeptical, Biscardi was the wrong person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biscardi is a disgrace to the bigfoot community. Although I admit that nearly every time the media addresses Bigfoot, the journalists and/or reporters are unfairly skeptical, Biscardi was the wrong person.</p>
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		<title>By: Ole Bub</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-outfox/#comment-44831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ole Bub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good afternoon Crytos...

Agreed Alton...

The man has burst onto BTR shows on occasion with bluster and bravado...like some kind of a rock star...instead of the wind bag he appears to be.  Perhaps the Big Folks need a Barnum and Bailey side show?  I wish he would quit grandstanding and stay the hell out of the way...he's giving us all a black eye...JMHO

I may be in the City soon...fire those puppies up...let's do lunch.

live and let live...

ole bub and the dawgs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon Crytos&#8230;</p>
<p>Agreed Alton&#8230;</p>
<p>The man has burst onto BTR shows on occasion with bluster and bravado&#8230;like some kind of a rock star&#8230;instead of the wind bag he appears to be.  Perhaps the Big Folks need a Barnum and Bailey side show?  I wish he would quit grandstanding and stay the hell out of the way&#8230;he&#8217;s giving us all a black eye&#8230;JMHO</p>
<p>I may be in the City soon&#8230;fire those puppies up&#8230;let&#8217;s do lunch.</p>
<p>live and let live&#8230;</p>
<p>ole bub and the dawgs</p>
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		<title>By: DavidFullam</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-outfox/#comment-44830</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidFullam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, you're right. I get so much of these things confused in old age. But I do remember seeing a newsreader on Fox basically say "well, that certainly proves that Bigfoot is a fake." I looked back at the screen and thought to myself "but what about the other evidence that just might be legit?"

I gave up a long time back hoping to see crypto matters get a fair shake in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, you&#8217;re right. I get so much of these things confused in old age. But I do remember seeing a newsreader on Fox basically say &#8220;well, that certainly proves that Bigfoot is a fake.&#8221; I looked back at the screen and thought to myself &#8220;but what about the other evidence that just might be legit?&#8221;</p>
<p>I gave up a long time back hoping to see crypto matters get a fair shake in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-outfox/#comment-44829</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alton Higgins:

Thanks.  Hope springs eternal, I guess.  That is about as serious a treatment as any realistic person should expect from the media at the moment.

It flummoxes the heck out of me that more news organizations wouldn't think the evidence on hand, and the simple possibility of the animal, the big story here.  But given such things as the Fox Noze for Nooze, should any of us really be surprised?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alton Higgins:</p>
<p>Thanks.  Hope springs eternal, I guess.  That is about as serious a treatment as any realistic person should expect from the media at the moment.</p>
<p>It flummoxes the heck out of me that more news organizations wouldn&#8217;t think the evidence on hand, and the simple possibility of the animal, the big story here.  But given such things as the Fox Noze for Nooze, should any of us really be surprised?</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-outfox/#comment-44828</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said on the previous thread, Fox I think knew he was bogus so they put him on to further get their program of discrediting anything that is Sasquatch rolling along well along.
Nothing new here, just more of the same Fox rehash and pompous dismissiveness. Them and CNN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said on the previous thread, Fox I think knew he was bogus so they put him on to further get their program of discrediting anything that is Sasquatch rolling along well along.<br />
Nothing new here, just more of the same Fox rehash and pompous dismissiveness. Them and CNN.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF: I think what you're referring to was the story about the &lt;b&gt;Wallace&lt;/b&gt; feet and the suit Mrs Wallace wore in one of Ray's absurd films. One of her sons or nephews went out to a shed and showed it off. I've read that that was on CNN, not Fox.
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Incidentally, some people, notably the clear-thinking critical thinkers (two SMU professors) at the CSICOP-linked "Inquiring Minds" site, mixed it up with the Wallace film and stated on their site in 2004 that Patterson's son had shown off a suit and had confessed that it was a hoax. He was obviously confusing this with Wallace's son or nephew. I tried for a year to get them to correct their error, first e-mailing CSICOP and then twice e-mailing Prof. Cotton, one of the site-authors, but he wouldn't respond.

Eventually ABC "put their foot in it," perhaps relying on the misinformation found on the Inquiring Minds site. On Jan 29, 2006, in its "Good Morning America" segment dealing with the recent Malaysian sightings, it stated: "The most famous caught-on-camera footage, from 1967, was debunked after the family of the photographer admitted it was someone in an ape suit."

Later the Voice of America also picked up that misinformation, either directly from Inquiring Minds or indirectly via ABC, and broadcast it round the world. When Bigfooters protested, the VOA responded that they'd based their assertion on Internet research--presumably meaning the Inquiring Minds site. (Which seems no longer to be active.)

Therefore, early in 2006 I made another effort to get them to put a stop to this, e-mailing the other site author, Prof. Scalise, and finally got him to remove its erroneous paragraph. However, Scalise refused to concede that it hadn't been Patterson's son he saw showing off the suit, only that the son hadn't made a confession. He claimed he'd made the error in good faith. Maybe his initial error was in good faith, but:

1. He should have done five minutes' research on such a spectacular and damaging claim before posting it. A tiny bit of Googling, or an e-mail to CNN, or a search of the CNN site, would have revealed his mistake and saved the day. (But I suspect he was operating under a cynical rule for journalists: "Don't check your "good" stories--that's how you lose them." I.e., I suspect he &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; to post something damaging about the Patterson film, and was reluctant to look for disconfirming evidence. He certainly was reluctant to accept my correction that he hadn't seen Patterson's son.)

2. His co-author, prof. Cotton, was guilty of egregious arrogance (something not unheard of "skeptical" circles) in not responding to my e-mails or forwarding them to Scalise.

3. He (Scalise) was arrogant in continuing to maintain that it was Patterson's son he'd seen showing off a suit. He baselessly treated me as though I couldn't have known more about the matter than he did (when I claimed he had mixed up the person he saw with a Wallace relative). His arrogance was also reflected in:

His refusal to consider that his blunder (that there was a Patterson-confession) didn't indicate that his memory might also be at fault about the person he saw on TV; and

His refusal to look into the matter to back up his claim to me that it was Patterson's son who'd been on TV with anything more than his own recollection; and

His failure to apologize for the damage caused by the possible spread of his misinformation onto the national media.

(I suspect he thinks it was a good thing that it did receive wide coverage, regardless of whether Patterson's son had actually made such a confession. "Any stick will do to beat the devil": that's what the behavior of Skeptics' indicates they really believe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF: I think what you&#8217;re referring to was the story about the <b>Wallace</b> feet and the suit Mrs Wallace wore in one of Ray&#8217;s absurd films. One of her sons or nephews went out to a shed and showed it off. I&#8217;ve read that that was on CNN, not Fox.<br />
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<p>Incidentally, some people, notably the clear-thinking critical thinkers (two SMU professors) at the CSICOP-linked &#8220;Inquiring Minds&#8221; site, mixed it up with the Wallace film and stated on their site in 2004 that Patterson&#8217;s son had shown off a suit and had confessed that it was a hoax. He was obviously confusing this with Wallace&#8217;s son or nephew. I tried for a year to get them to correct their error, first e-mailing CSICOP and then twice e-mailing Prof. Cotton, one of the site-authors, but he wouldn&#8217;t respond.</p>
<p>Eventually ABC &#8220;put their foot in it,&#8221; perhaps relying on the misinformation found on the Inquiring Minds site. On Jan 29, 2006, in its &#8220;Good Morning America&#8221; segment dealing with the recent Malaysian sightings, it stated: &#8220;The most famous caught-on-camera footage, from 1967, was debunked after the family of the photographer admitted it was someone in an ape suit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Later the Voice of America also picked up that misinformation, either directly from Inquiring Minds or indirectly via ABC, and broadcast it round the world. When Bigfooters protested, the VOA responded that they&#8217;d based their assertion on Internet research&#8211;presumably meaning the Inquiring Minds site. (Which seems no longer to be active.)</p>
<p>Therefore, early in 2006 I made another effort to get them to put a stop to this, e-mailing the other site author, Prof. Scalise, and finally got him to remove its erroneous paragraph. However, Scalise refused to concede that it hadn&#8217;t been Patterson&#8217;s son he saw showing off the suit, only that the son hadn&#8217;t made a confession. He claimed he&#8217;d made the error in good faith. Maybe his initial error was in good faith, but:</p>
<p>1. He should have done five minutes&#8217; research on such a spectacular and damaging claim before posting it. A tiny bit of Googling, or an e-mail to CNN, or a search of the CNN site, would have revealed his mistake and saved the day. (But I suspect he was operating under a cynical rule for journalists: &#8220;Don&#8217;t check your &#8220;good&#8221; stories&#8211;that&#8217;s how you lose them.&#8221; I.e., I suspect he <i>wanted</i> to post something damaging about the Patterson film, and was reluctant to look for disconfirming evidence. He certainly was reluctant to accept my correction that he hadn&#8217;t seen Patterson&#8217;s son.)</p>
<p>2. His co-author, prof. Cotton, was guilty of egregious arrogance (something not unheard of &#8220;skeptical&#8221; circles) in not responding to my e-mails or forwarding them to Scalise.</p>
<p>3. He (Scalise) was arrogant in continuing to maintain that it was Patterson&#8217;s son he&#8217;d seen showing off a suit. He baselessly treated me as though I couldn&#8217;t have known more about the matter than he did (when I claimed he had mixed up the person he saw with a Wallace relative). His arrogance was also reflected in:</p>
<p>His refusal to consider that his blunder (that there was a Patterson-confession) didn&#8217;t indicate that his memory might also be at fault about the person he saw on TV; and</p>
<p>His refusal to look into the matter to back up his claim to me that it was Patterson&#8217;s son who&#8217;d been on TV with anything more than his own recollection; and</p>
<p>His failure to apologize for the damage caused by the possible spread of his misinformation onto the national media.</p>
<p>(I suspect he thinks it was a good thing that it did receive wide coverage, regardless of whether Patterson&#8217;s son had actually made such a confession. &#8220;Any stick will do to beat the devil&#8221;: that&#8217;s what the behavior of Skeptics&#8217; indicates they really believe.)</p>
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		<title>By: DavidFullam</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidFullam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a time back on Fox, it was one of the stories dealing with folks who claimed to have the remains of the Patterson/Gimlin suit, and the feet used to make the original tracks that gave us the name Bigfoot.

The talking head basically said that all this was the smoking gun, definitive proof that Bigfoot did not, nor ever did exist. Cryptozoological stories will never get their just due in the mainstream media. Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a time back on Fox, it was one of the stories dealing with folks who claimed to have the remains of the Patterson/Gimlin suit, and the feet used to make the original tracks that gave us the name Bigfoot.</p>
<p>The talking head basically said that all this was the smoking gun, definitive proof that Bigfoot did not, nor ever did exist. Cryptozoological stories will never get their just due in the mainstream media. Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Alton Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alton Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally didn't have a problem with the anchor's questions or his responses to Biscardi's comments. Over the years I've seen several other news clips featuring Biscardi, and this one was par for the course; he regularly makes outlandish statements.

Certainly media coverage of bigfoot-related news is often approached superficially, erroneously, and with condescension, but that's not always the case. Here's a link to a news story where the reporter attempted to be thorough and objective.

http://www.cbs19.tv/video/newplayer.php?id=3156</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally didn&#8217;t have a problem with the anchor&#8217;s questions or his responses to Biscardi&#8217;s comments. Over the years I&#8217;ve seen several other news clips featuring Biscardi, and this one was par for the course; he regularly makes outlandish statements.</p>
<p>Certainly media coverage of bigfoot-related news is often approached superficially, erroneously, and with condescension, but that&#8217;s not always the case. Here&#8217;s a link to a news story where the reporter attempted to be thorough and objective.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbs19.tv/video/newplayer.php?id=3156" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbs19.tv/video/newplayer.php?id=3156</a></p>
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		<title>By: Indian Tracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indian Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Mr.Biscardi. But, when was the last time any of "us" were televised on the National News?

And from what I caught on the broadcast, Mr.Biscardi was rudely commented upon and he had made the comment to even the score!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not defending Mr.Biscardi. But, when was the last time any of &#8220;us&#8221; were televised on the National News?</p>
<p>And from what I caught on the broadcast, Mr.Biscardi was rudely commented upon and he had made the comment to even the score!</p>
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		<title>By: chrisandclauida2</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tom sideshow biscardi up to his usual antics.

in my best carny barking voice.....clears throat uhuumm...

step right up folks we have cameras looking for bigfoot and have images. for only a quarter see the images from the bigfoot sighting location. bark bark bark. well i didnt say they were pics of bigfoot just images from the sighting location. yeeessss

step right up folks see the skinned bear paw err i mean bigfoot hand. yessss

step right up folks we have a captured bigfoot pics to come shortly. pay just 59.95 for live feed of bigfoot being cared for by a doctor. step right up folks.

disclaimer. money up front keep your mouth shut and absolutely positively no refunds. i need a new fake bigfoot costume because the one me and ivan used has fallen apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tom sideshow biscardi up to his usual antics.</p>
<p>in my best carny barking voice&#8230;..clears throat uhuumm&#8230;</p>
<p>step right up folks we have cameras looking for bigfoot and have images. for only a quarter see the images from the bigfoot sighting location. bark bark bark. well i didnt say they were pics of bigfoot just images from the sighting location. yeeessss</p>
<p>step right up folks see the skinned bear paw err i mean bigfoot hand. yessss</p>
<p>step right up folks we have a captured bigfoot pics to come shortly. pay just 59.95 for live feed of bigfoot being cared for by a doctor. step right up folks.</p>
<p>disclaimer. money up front keep your mouth shut and absolutely positively no refunds. i need a new fake bigfoot costume because the one me and ivan used has fallen apart.</p>
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