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		<title>By: sadisticgreen</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9820</link>
		<dc:creator>sadisticgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm really trying not to offend anyone here (I swear) but I find it curious that so many people find it impossible to believe in Sasquatch when, despite The Arizona Republic article's claim, there is quite a wealth of evidence to suggest the is "something out there". Yet an enormous number of people believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God even though the only "evidence" is a book. As I said I'm really not trying to be offensive I just find it strange that one is completely acceptable without question while the other is the subject of media ridicule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really trying not to offend anyone here (I swear) but I find it curious that so many people find it impossible to believe in Sasquatch when, despite The Arizona Republic article&#8217;s claim, there is quite a wealth of evidence to suggest the is &#8220;something out there&#8221;. Yet an enormous number of people believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God even though the only &#8220;evidence&#8221; is a book. As I said I&#8217;m really not trying to be offensive I just find it strange that one is completely acceptable without question while the other is the subject of media ridicule.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9819</link>
		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, people will believe anything they read. Unfortunate but true. That doesn't make it right. And I still don't think people this ignorant should write about these subjects, especially because people reading it have less knowledge than the people writing it (which in this case, hmmm). This kind of irresponsibility is how rumors and misinformation end up getting spread. Can you imagine if someone this uninformed wrote something up on a truly important article (not TB's shenanigans)?  How is the average person going to know any more than they do when they are force fed this dreck? Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, people will believe anything they read. Unfortunate but true. That doesn&#8217;t make it right. And I still don&#8217;t think people this ignorant should write about these subjects, especially because people reading it have less knowledge than the people writing it (which in this case, hmmm). This kind of irresponsibility is how rumors and misinformation end up getting spread. Can you imagine if someone this uninformed wrote something up on a truly important article (not TB&#8217;s shenanigans)?  How is the average person going to know any more than they do when they are force fed this dreck? Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9818</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The land on the apache res is some of the most beautiful in the country."

Don't let that get out, or someone will find a way to take that land from them too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The land on the apache res is some of the most beautiful in the country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let that get out, or someone will find a way to take that land from them too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chrisandclauida2</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9817</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisandclauida2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren,
There is a reason we here in zonie land call the paper the repugnant! It is the most biased, under researched, half arsed news org you have ever seen.

As for Biscardi, I still have no idea why they let him on the res. From what I have heard one or two people or tribal police remembered his name when the recent calls for service for squatch related issues was at its height. They called him basically for the lack of another choice altogether. Because the had no knowledge of anyone else, they pick the only Bigfoot related name they have heard of. They pick Mr hoax per view himself.

I also think it is at least ignorance and worst bigoted, on the writers part, to make assumptions about a proud peoples religious and natural beliefs and use those assumptions to dismiss testimony.

The fact that the people of the area use terms like spirit or shape shifter or other local terms to describe animals they couldn't otherwise provide an answer for does not allow one to dismiss it out of hand. People that derive their spiritual power beliefs and history and learned how to survive from the land that has provided them life for centuries can think of no other terms to describe the creatures they see and hear. It's like us calling something a ufo and those who would investigate our claims dismiss our story because ufo is a sometimes stigmatized term. If we knew better we might call it the aurora d version with anti gravity displacement and hyper g acceleration. or the grey's aerospace singularity forming
time traveling craft mark X.

I can guarantee you the people of the apache res, both in present times and historical, aren't going to confuse the animals they shared their lives with. They know what they see and they know what it isn't.

The other day I was clearly the donkey of the day for making assumptions but my reign has been trumped by the writer from the repugnant.

I don't know anyone on the res, and as most know, outsiders questioning things don't get much in a way of info from the people. You would have to take time to develop trust before you could proceed. I used to spend a lot of time up there as a kid while with my dad who drove a truck.

The land on the apache res goes from high desert to thickly forested to high peaks and a ski resort. It was in that part of the state I heard what I think is a Bigfoot scream and having elk damn near run me over trying to get away from something that scared them more than I did at 1 in the afternoon.

The land contains elk, deer, black bear and I think there are even some wolves that have been released in that part of the state. It also has some large tourist areas being that it is on the Mogollon Rim. It has lakes streams and awesome fishing, hunting, camping and backpacking.

People think AZ is all desert like Phoenix or Tucson. Far from it. The land on the apache res is some of the most beautiful in the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren,<br />
There is a reason we here in zonie land call the paper the repugnant! It is the most biased, under researched, half arsed news org you have ever seen.</p>
<p>As for Biscardi, I still have no idea why they let him on the res. From what I have heard one or two people or tribal police remembered his name when the recent calls for service for squatch related issues was at its height. They called him basically for the lack of another choice altogether. Because the had no knowledge of anyone else, they pick the only Bigfoot related name they have heard of. They pick Mr hoax per view himself.</p>
<p>I also think it is at least ignorance and worst bigoted, on the writers part, to make assumptions about a proud peoples religious and natural beliefs and use those assumptions to dismiss testimony.</p>
<p>The fact that the people of the area use terms like spirit or shape shifter or other local terms to describe animals they couldn&#8217;t otherwise provide an answer for does not allow one to dismiss it out of hand. People that derive their spiritual power beliefs and history and learned how to survive from the land that has provided them life for centuries can think of no other terms to describe the creatures they see and hear. It&#8217;s like us calling something a ufo and those who would investigate our claims dismiss our story because ufo is a sometimes stigmatized term. If we knew better we might call it the aurora d version with anti gravity displacement and hyper g acceleration. or the grey&#8217;s aerospace singularity forming<br />
time traveling craft mark X.</p>
<p>I can guarantee you the people of the apache res, both in present times and historical, aren&#8217;t going to confuse the animals they shared their lives with. They know what they see and they know what it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The other day I was clearly the donkey of the day for making assumptions but my reign has been trumped by the writer from the repugnant.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone on the res, and as most know, outsiders questioning things don&#8217;t get much in a way of info from the people. You would have to take time to develop trust before you could proceed. I used to spend a lot of time up there as a kid while with my dad who drove a truck.</p>
<p>The land on the apache res goes from high desert to thickly forested to high peaks and a ski resort. It was in that part of the state I heard what I think is a Bigfoot scream and having elk damn near run me over trying to get away from something that scared them more than I did at 1 in the afternoon.</p>
<p>The land contains elk, deer, black bear and I think there are even some wolves that have been released in that part of the state. It also has some large tourist areas being that it is on the Mogollon Rim. It has lakes streams and awesome fishing, hunting, camping and backpacking.</p>
<p>People think AZ is all desert like Phoenix or Tucson. Far from it. The land on the apache res is some of the most beautiful in the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Knights</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9816</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 06:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most objectionable item in the story was the quotation-as-if-it-were-fact of the Skeptics Dictionary's claim that there's no scat, no artifacts, and no fur. An average reader would get the impression from that that we believers must be really credulous to take things on faith, without a scrap of hard evidence.

But what the SD's claim boils down to is that IT doesn't accept the numerous pieces of evidence in those categories as being credible--not that there's "no nothing." Murphy's "Meet the Sasquatch" and Meldrum's "Sasquatch: LMS," among other books, describe the scat evidence (SLMS: 267-69), the artifacts (MTS: 156-59), and the fur (hair) (SLMS 261-67, 274-76; MTS: 152-55). And there are dermal ridges.

The next piece of slanted reportage was the use of the term "true believers," which is very pejorative.

The third piece of slanted reporting was his use of the prejudicial word "admitted" in the phrase, "Bob Heironimus ... admitted wearing the outfit." That implies acceptance of his CLAIM. (I thought they were taught to avoid inserting these biased terms in journalism school.)

It's too bad he didn't look at my (spotlighted) review of Long's book on the Amazon site, which lists "26 reasons BH wasn't Queen Kong." Anyone who can laugh off those points WANTS to believe Heironimus--desperately.

Since I posted it, I've come up with a few more reasons, such as the fact, attested to by Forest Service timber cruiser crew chief Lyle Laverty (in response to my e-mail), that there were no tracks at the film site the day before Patterson's announcement of the filming. That discredits BH's claim that they were made a week or two earlier. (For details, see Bigfoot Times for Sept. 2006, or the Greg Long Book Review thread in Bigfootforums.com.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most objectionable item in the story was the quotation-as-if-it-were-fact of the Skeptics Dictionary&#8217;s claim that there&#8217;s no scat, no artifacts, and no fur. An average reader would get the impression from that that we believers must be really credulous to take things on faith, without a scrap of hard evidence.</p>
<p>But what the SD&#8217;s claim boils down to is that IT doesn&#8217;t accept the numerous pieces of evidence in those categories as being credible&#8211;not that there&#8217;s &#8220;no nothing.&#8221; Murphy&#8217;s &#8220;Meet the Sasquatch&#8221; and Meldrum&#8217;s &#8220;Sasquatch: LMS,&#8221; among other books, describe the scat evidence (SLMS: 267-69), the artifacts (MTS: 156-59), and the fur (hair) (SLMS 261-67, 274-76; MTS: 152-55). And there are dermal ridges.</p>
<p>The next piece of slanted reportage was the use of the term &#8220;true believers,&#8221; which is very pejorative.</p>
<p>The third piece of slanted reporting was his use of the prejudicial word &#8220;admitted&#8221; in the phrase, &#8220;Bob Heironimus &#8230; admitted wearing the outfit.&#8221; That implies acceptance of his CLAIM. (I thought they were taught to avoid inserting these biased terms in journalism school.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad he didn&#8217;t look at my (spotlighted) review of Long&#8217;s book on the Amazon site, which lists &#8220;26 reasons BH wasn&#8217;t Queen Kong.&#8221; Anyone who can laugh off those points WANTS to believe Heironimus&#8211;desperately.</p>
<p>Since I posted it, I&#8217;ve come up with a few more reasons, such as the fact, attested to by Forest Service timber cruiser crew chief Lyle Laverty (in response to my e-mail), that there were no tracks at the film site the day before Patterson&#8217;s announcement of the filming. That discredits BH&#8217;s claim that they were made a week or two earlier. (For details, see Bigfoot Times for Sept. 2006, or the Greg Long Book Review thread in Bigfootforums.com.)</p>
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		<title>By: WVBIG_2006</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9815</link>
		<dc:creator>WVBIG_2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paperdragon says: "The problem is that the average person reading the article probably has even less knowledge of the subject than the author so they believe what is written. I think we are all guilty of that on some level" I agree. For a few months I was under the impression that paper bags were better than plastic for holding hair, fecal matter, etc... because I THOUGHT the person who told me this knew more about Bigfoot than I do. But I kept thinking that plastic must be best. So I posed this question to the "Forensic Files" website. Their reply was that zip-lock, or other plastic bags, are indeed best for holding evidence that you will be attempting to extract DNA from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paperdragon says: &#8220;The problem is that the average person reading the article probably has even less knowledge of the subject than the author so they believe what is written. I think we are all guilty of that on some level&#8221; I agree. For a few months I was under the impression that paper bags were better than plastic for holding hair, fecal matter, etc&#8230; because I THOUGHT the person who told me this knew more about Bigfoot than I do. But I kept thinking that plastic must be best. So I posed this question to the &#8220;Forensic Files&#8221; website. Their reply was that zip-lock, or other plastic bags, are indeed best for holding evidence that you will be attempting to extract DNA from.</p>
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		<title>By: byondbyond</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9814</link>
		<dc:creator>byondbyond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this has got to win the award for lamest article this year. - definitely sounds like a high school student wrote it.

“If they did not respond to the whooping and tree knocking, and there’s no signs, then there’s nothing here.”

gonna use that for my signature - it's so brilliant

leonard - LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this has got to win the award for lamest article this year. - definitely sounds like a high school student wrote it.</p>
<p>“If they did not respond to the whooping and tree knocking, and there’s no signs, then there’s nothing here.”</p>
<p>gonna use that for my signature - it&#8217;s so brilliant</p>
<p>leonard - LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: paperdragon</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9813</link>
		<dc:creator>paperdragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mystery_man said 'People this uninformed and ignorant of their subject should not be writing about it.' The problem is that the average person reading the article probably has even less knowledge of the subject than the author so they believe what is written.  I think we are all guilty of that on some level.  If we find someone who seems to know more about something than we do we are inclined to believe them, even if what they are saying is totally BS.  We dont know its BS until we take the next step of actually doing some research on our own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mystery_man said &#8216;People this uninformed and ignorant of their subject should not be writing about it.&#8217; The problem is that the average person reading the article probably has even less knowledge of the subject than the author so they believe what is written.  I think we are all guilty of that on some level.  If we find someone who seems to know more about something than we do we are inclined to believe them, even if what they are saying is totally BS.  We dont know its BS until we take the next step of actually doing some research on our own.</p>
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		<title>By: lastensugle</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastensugle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this is just foolish. And speaking of being foolish, I couldn't help laugh at the "Bringing a taser, just in case" part. I sure wouldn't want to be the one using it on a sasquatch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is just foolish. And speaking of being foolish, I couldn&#8217;t help laugh at the &#8220;Bringing a taser, just in case&#8221; part. I sure wouldn&#8217;t want to be the one using it on a sasquatch!</p>
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		<title>By: One Eyed Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/biscardi-az/#comment-9811</link>
		<dc:creator>One Eyed Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering what an 'investigator reporter' is these days. Most show no investigation skills, not even to check their sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering what an &#8216;investigator reporter&#8217; is these days. Most show no investigation skills, not even to check their sources.</p>
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