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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some gibbon species do have two color phases, but they are not color phases in the sense that, say, black leopards are. In crested gibbons, the color phases are sex-linked. The adult females are a light buff or whitish color, and the adult males are black or blackish. The babies are light, like the mothers, and as they begin to mature they turn dark, with the females becoming light colored as they reach sexual maturity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some gibbon species do have two color phases, but they are not color phases in the sense that, say, black leopards are. In crested gibbons, the color phases are sex-linked. The adult females are a light buff or whitish color, and the adult males are black or blackish. The babies are light, like the mothers, and as they begin to mature they turn dark, with the females becoming light colored as they reach sexual maturity.</p>
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		<title>By: springheeledjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>springheeledjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am in the Patty camp when it comes to the visual icon of BF.  Now, I may be biased because I am familiar with the BF phenomenon and have spent more time reading about BF than proably your average joe...or josey to be appropriate.  So the average movie watcher may be aligned with Harry.

However, I think the Patty image has been out there for a long time, and really gotten more press than Harry overall.

Good points above...I was going to ask Kittenz what it was that made her doubt the Patty footage, but she answered before I had to ask--thanks!  The Patty footage is still one of the best conversatoin starters when it comes to BF and cryptozoology in general, and I find it interesting that since that footage, we still have not come up with anything as comparable (ironic and too bad:).

So, on that note, I think it is time to come up with another vid/pic/etc. that will start out this century with more to talk about...assuming we don&#039;t get to the bottom of this in the near future.

However (do I love that word, or what?), this century has also ushered in a new era on images, videos, etc. with the computer age, and I am not sure just how trusting we can be of any images that come our way...sure Photoshopping can be found out, but it keeps getting harder and harder to pick out the frauds from the real images--look how much time we have to spend here sifting through all of the You-Tube garbage, not to mention the good hoaxes.

The ultimate answer, is that I think it&#039;s time we offered BF a three movie deal with merchandising rights...BF action figures with rock throwing action...could he/she honestly turn that down...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am in the Patty camp when it comes to the visual icon of BF.  Now, I may be biased because I am familiar with the BF phenomenon and have spent more time reading about BF than proably your average joe&#8230;or josey to be appropriate.  So the average movie watcher may be aligned with Harry.</p>
<p>However, I think the Patty image has been out there for a long time, and really gotten more press than Harry overall.</p>
<p>Good points above&#8230;I was going to ask Kittenz what it was that made her doubt the Patty footage, but she answered before I had to ask&#8211;thanks!  The Patty footage is still one of the best conversatoin starters when it comes to BF and cryptozoology in general, and I find it interesting that since that footage, we still have not come up with anything as comparable (ironic and too bad:).</p>
<p>So, on that note, I think it is time to come up with another vid/pic/etc. that will start out this century with more to talk about&#8230;assuming we don&#8217;t get to the bottom of this in the near future.</p>
<p>However (do I love that word, or what?), this century has also ushered in a new era on images, videos, etc. with the computer age, and I am not sure just how trusting we can be of any images that come our way&#8230;sure Photoshopping can be found out, but it keeps getting harder and harder to pick out the frauds from the real images&#8211;look how much time we have to spend here sifting through all of the You-Tube garbage, not to mention the good hoaxes.</p>
<p>The ultimate answer, is that I think it&#8217;s time we offered BF a three movie deal with merchandising rights&#8230;BF action figures with rock throwing action&#8230;could he/she honestly turn that down&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jerrywayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerrywayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty v. Harry

&quot;Patty&quot;: Patterson&#039;s film is THE iconic concept of sasquatch among bigfoot advocates and other crypto enthusiasts. To me, however, the Patterson image looks more like popular conceptions (circa 1950&#039;s) of the yeti, rather than the bigfoot of earlier eyewitness accounts.

&quot;Harry&quot;: Perhaps &quot;Harry&quot; is the first idea some people have of bigfoot in the same way that popular notions of Frankenstein&#039;s creature are based on Karloff&#039;s monster. Why did the film makers create this particular image of bigfoot rather than some other image? I suggest this answer: when the make up artists did their research, they may have consulted Sanderson&#039;s &quot;Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life&quot;. Sanderson included in the photos section of his book a remarkable photo of an orangutan, remarkable for it&#039;s human like face. My first impression of &quot;Harry&quot; was: Hey, it&#039;s Sanderson&#039;s orangutan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty v. Harry</p>
<p>&#8220;Patty&#8221;: Patterson&#8217;s film is THE iconic concept of sasquatch among bigfoot advocates and other crypto enthusiasts. To me, however, the Patterson image looks more like popular conceptions (circa 1950&#8217;s) of the yeti, rather than the bigfoot of earlier eyewitness accounts.</p>
<p>&#8220;Harry&#8221;: Perhaps &#8220;Harry&#8221; is the first idea some people have of bigfoot in the same way that popular notions of Frankenstein&#8217;s creature are based on Karloff&#8217;s monster. Why did the film makers create this particular image of bigfoot rather than some other image? I suggest this answer: when the make up artists did their research, they may have consulted Sanderson&#8217;s &#8220;Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life&#8221;. Sanderson included in the photos section of his book a remarkable photo of an orangutan, remarkable for it&#8217;s human like face. My first impression of &#8220;Harry&#8221; was: Hey, it&#8217;s Sanderson&#8217;s orangutan!</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to get into yet another &quot;Patty:  Is She or Isn&#039;t She?&quot; discussion.

But it&#039;s certainly a good time to point out again - as others already have - that all animals have at least one feature that makes them unique.  As kittenz pointed out, humans are alone among members of the ape clade in having color phases (actually, at least one species of gibbon - I believe the siamang - has markedly different coloration between male and female).  That Patty&#039;s breasts are as hairy as they are is something I would expect of - or at least not find unusual in - an animal that (a) had breasts that big and (b) had to keep them warm in temperate-zone winters and (c) hadn&#039;t developed fire or clothing to take care of that.

That they might not be breasts at all, at least not as we think of them functionally, is an interesting idea.  But so many sightings don&#039;t note them at all that my suspicion is they are what most of us humans think they are when we see them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to get into yet another &#8220;Patty:  Is She or Isn&#8217;t She?&#8221; discussion.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s certainly a good time to point out again &#8211; as others already have &#8211; that all animals have at least one feature that makes them unique.  As kittenz pointed out, humans are alone among members of the ape clade in having color phases (actually, at least one species of gibbon &#8211; I believe the siamang &#8211; has markedly different coloration between male and female).  That Patty&#8217;s breasts are as hairy as they are is something I would expect of &#8211; or at least not find unusual in &#8211; an animal that (a) had breasts that big and (b) had to keep them warm in temperate-zone winters and (c) hadn&#8217;t developed fire or clothing to take care of that.</p>
<p>That they might not be breasts at all, at least not as we think of them functionally, is an interesting idea.  But so many sightings don&#8217;t note them at all that my suspicion is they are what most of us humans think they are when we see them.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that bothers me about the whole sasquatch phenom (in North America) is the wild variation of appearances of the creature. There are black, brown, blonde, red/auburn, white and gray ones as well as black skin and human colored flesh. The facial features also vary greatly, as with Harry and Patty, with some looking very ape-like while others looking almost human, and everything in between (the artist&#039;s rendering of the skunkape face that Dan Jackson encountered even looks different from those mentioned above).

I know there can be differences between individuals of the same species, and the possibility of different species or even subspecies that may have developed along the way, but since there are supposed to be so few that is a lot of variation.

Then again, there is so little we do know we can only make a lot of assumptions since we have never actually studied them in detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that bothers me about the whole sasquatch phenom (in North America) is the wild variation of appearances of the creature. There are black, brown, blonde, red/auburn, white and gray ones as well as black skin and human colored flesh. The facial features also vary greatly, as with Harry and Patty, with some looking very ape-like while others looking almost human, and everything in between (the artist&#8217;s rendering of the skunkape face that Dan Jackson encountered even looks different from those mentioned above).</p>
<p>I know there can be differences between individuals of the same species, and the possibility of different species or even subspecies that may have developed along the way, but since there are supposed to be so few that is a lot of variation.</p>
<p>Then again, there is so little we do know we can only make a lot of assumptions since we have never actually studied them in detail.</p>
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		<title>By: dogu4</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogu4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, if BF&#039;s whereabouts is confirmed and contact is made, I suspect their days of peace and relative quite will come crashing down as they will be given a huge amount of attention and ultimately featured in their own reality based show &quot;Meet the &#039;Squatches&quot;, until such time as the viewing public will grow tired of them and we&#039;ll find them opening supermarkets, endorsing athletic shoes, going to re-hab, along with the Osbornes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, if BF&#8217;s whereabouts is confirmed and contact is made, I suspect their days of peace and relative quite will come crashing down as they will be given a huge amount of attention and ultimately featured in their own reality based show &#8220;Meet the &#8216;Squatches&#8221;, until such time as the viewing public will grow tired of them and we&#8217;ll find them opening supermarkets, endorsing athletic shoes, going to re-hab, along with the Osbornes.</p>
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		<title>By: squatch-toba</title>
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		<dc:creator>squatch-toba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to reply to a couple of comments above. You must remember that we &quot;assume&quot; that the Patterson sasquatch is female!! What has been discribed as &quot;female&quot; breasts may not be so! There is a thought that they could be an inflatable air-sack of sorts. This may be how the sasquatch makes the low freqency sounds or sound waves that are reported. As far as being covered with hair, I would expect that it would be the norm for a large ape, not monkey, that lives in the climate that it does! Humans have fire and clothes for warmth, sasquatches have hair/fur... makes sense to me to have a complete covering including breasts. And I could be totaly wrong... but it would explain the covering of hair. Personaly I think that Patty is a &quot;normal&quot; female sasquatch, just doin&#039; what a sasquatch does...hairy breasts and all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to reply to a couple of comments above. You must remember that we &#8220;assume&#8221; that the Patterson sasquatch is female!! What has been discribed as &#8220;female&#8221; breasts may not be so! There is a thought that they could be an inflatable air-sack of sorts. This may be how the sasquatch makes the low freqency sounds or sound waves that are reported. As far as being covered with hair, I would expect that it would be the norm for a large ape, not monkey, that lives in the climate that it does! Humans have fire and clothes for warmth, sasquatches have hair/fur&#8230; makes sense to me to have a complete covering including breasts. And I could be totaly wrong&#8230; but it would explain the covering of hair. Personaly I think that Patty is a &#8220;normal&#8221; female sasquatch, just doin&#8217; what a sasquatch does&#8230;hairy breasts and all!</p>
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		<title>By: captiannemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>captiannemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Patterson Patty image along with the Image on the shoud of Turin is a matter of faith when you come down to it.
People will look and see what their faith allows them to see.
This is a GREAT SITE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patterson Patty image along with the Image on the shoud of Turin is a matter of faith when you come down to it.<br />
People will look and see what their faith allows them to see.<br />
This is a GREAT SITE!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyndon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren,

I&#039;ll have to respectfully disagree with you regarding the &#039;Harry&#039; image as being the type the general public has in mind.

I still believe the Patty image is the one most people who consider bigfoot really think of, or at least something along those lines. Something dark and quite menacing. Those that have seen Harry and The Hendersons know full well that it&#039;s a comedic caricature representation and if they were to hear of a bigfoot sighting it wouldn&#039;t be the &#039;Harry&#039; image that would spring to mind.

From asking around I get the impression that most people think bigfoot is something to be worried/scared of if they were to encounter one. That isn&#039;t &#039;Harry&#039;. The Patty image is still widely known both in still version and the moving footage version. It&#039;s only my opinion but I don&#039;t think most people think of a light haired grey bearded smiling ape man when the name bigfoot comes up.

The people who openly dismiss bigfoot probably don&#039;t have any set rigid image either way when the name is mentioned to them as they think it&#039;s all a load of old nonsense.

Of course I could be wrong but I&#039;m just going by my own experiences of talking to other people. Bigfoot is scary to them. Patty is scary looking. Harry isn&#039;t.

My young nephew always used to hate me mentioning bigfoot, even though he saw the Harry film. Harry isn&#039;t what stuck in his mind. That would be the Patty image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to respectfully disagree with you regarding the &#8216;Harry&#8217; image as being the type the general public has in mind.</p>
<p>I still believe the Patty image is the one most people who consider bigfoot really think of, or at least something along those lines. Something dark and quite menacing. Those that have seen Harry and The Hendersons know full well that it&#8217;s a comedic caricature representation and if they were to hear of a bigfoot sighting it wouldn&#8217;t be the &#8216;Harry&#8217; image that would spring to mind.</p>
<p>From asking around I get the impression that most people think bigfoot is something to be worried/scared of if they were to encounter one. That isn&#8217;t &#8216;Harry&#8217;. The Patty image is still widely known both in still version and the moving footage version. It&#8217;s only my opinion but I don&#8217;t think most people think of a light haired grey bearded smiling ape man when the name bigfoot comes up.</p>
<p>The people who openly dismiss bigfoot probably don&#8217;t have any set rigid image either way when the name is mentioned to them as they think it&#8217;s all a load of old nonsense.</p>
<p>Of course I could be wrong but I&#8217;m just going by my own experiences of talking to other people. Bigfoot is scary to them. Patty is scary looking. Harry isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My young nephew always used to hate me mentioning bigfoot, even though he saw the Harry film. Harry isn&#8217;t what stuck in his mind. That would be the Patty image.</p>
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		<title>By: Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a hairy chested male and the hair is evenly distributed over my chest area and stomach.</description>
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