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		<title>By: Sordes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sordes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a whole lot of widespread misinformation about the actual size of the European catfish &lt;em&gt;Siluris glanis&lt;/em&gt;.

You can very often read this &quot;5m&quot; but never with much more information. As the Wels is a common species where I live, and I find it very interesting, I made a whole lot of research about this species since many years. The facts are much lesser imposants than the alleged tales.

The wels can grow big, without doubt bigger than any north-american catfish species, but it stays much smaller than many of you probably think. You will find specimens over 2m only extremely rarely, and weights of more than 100 pounds are really exeptional. Even in Italy and Spain where they were introduced in the early 20th century, and where they grow due to the warm climate better than in most of their native habitat, lengths of more than 2m are far away from being normal. If you look at the statistics of record specimens as well as scientific investigations of sizes among populations you can see that the relation between size and individual number is some kind of pyramide.

The bigger the rarer they are. There is only a handfull of specimens over 200 pounds or 2,50, and even lesser if you look a even bigger ones. There is one single specimen from the Po-Delta in Italy which was caught some years ago, which reached the incredible length of 2,78 and weighed 144kg. This is really extraordinairy, and only one among millions will reach this size. In fact there are no credible records of bigger ones. I checked a lot of primary literature, including historic literature, and there were nowhere true indications that this fish reached bigger sizes in the past.

There is a handfull of alleged reports about oversized wels catfish, but none of them is credible. Not only that it would be strange if they would be able to surpass the known maximum length for nearly 100% without any records of immediate sizes, the relations between length and weight are also always ridiculous, which is a very typical trait for exagerated big fish stories. A hypothetical wels catfish of 5m would weigh at least 1400 pounds, but most probably even more, as they grow in general stockier with additional length. But there aren´t any reports of such weights. Even from early times of the Renaissance I found only a weight of about 150 pounds for the wels, what is still very big and would be probably among the top-ten in middle-european fishing-charts.

You can also very often read that the wels attains huge sizes in Russia. But is also not the truth. It seems that there are two or three old reports which were repeated for more than a century in literature, similar to the alleged 12m great whites or 4,5m Arapaimas. I checked newer literature (including old reports) with more information about the sizes among populations, and there was not a grain of indication that the wels would reach larger sizes in Russia of the regions of the Caspian sea than in Europe. There is actually now already some sort of catfish-fishing-tourism in some regions of Russia. The fish there are good, comparable to those of Italy, but far away from being monster-sized.

There is a lot of more things I could wrote about this topic (actually I wrote an aritcle about this topic for a magazine which is about 9pages long).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a whole lot of widespread misinformation about the actual size of the European catfish <em>Siluris glanis</em>.</p>
<p>You can very often read this &#8220;5m&#8221; but never with much more information. As the Wels is a common species where I live, and I find it very interesting, I made a whole lot of research about this species since many years. The facts are much lesser imposants than the alleged tales.</p>
<p>The wels can grow big, without doubt bigger than any north-american catfish species, but it stays much smaller than many of you probably think. You will find specimens over 2m only extremely rarely, and weights of more than 100 pounds are really exeptional. Even in Italy and Spain where they were introduced in the early 20th century, and where they grow due to the warm climate better than in most of their native habitat, lengths of more than 2m are far away from being normal. If you look at the statistics of record specimens as well as scientific investigations of sizes among populations you can see that the relation between size and individual number is some kind of pyramide.</p>
<p>The bigger the rarer they are. There is only a handfull of specimens over 200 pounds or 2,50, and even lesser if you look a even bigger ones. There is one single specimen from the Po-Delta in Italy which was caught some years ago, which reached the incredible length of 2,78 and weighed 144kg. This is really extraordinairy, and only one among millions will reach this size. In fact there are no credible records of bigger ones. I checked a lot of primary literature, including historic literature, and there were nowhere true indications that this fish reached bigger sizes in the past.</p>
<p>There is a handfull of alleged reports about oversized wels catfish, but none of them is credible. Not only that it would be strange if they would be able to surpass the known maximum length for nearly 100% without any records of immediate sizes, the relations between length and weight are also always ridiculous, which is a very typical trait for exagerated big fish stories. A hypothetical wels catfish of 5m would weigh at least 1400 pounds, but most probably even more, as they grow in general stockier with additional length. But there aren´t any reports of such weights. Even from early times of the Renaissance I found only a weight of about 150 pounds for the wels, what is still very big and would be probably among the top-ten in middle-european fishing-charts.</p>
<p>You can also very often read that the wels attains huge sizes in Russia. But is also not the truth. It seems that there are two or three old reports which were repeated for more than a century in literature, similar to the alleged 12m great whites or 4,5m Arapaimas. I checked newer literature (including old reports) with more information about the sizes among populations, and there was not a grain of indication that the wels would reach larger sizes in Russia of the regions of the Caspian sea than in Europe. There is actually now already some sort of catfish-fishing-tourism in some regions of Russia. The fish there are good, comparable to those of Italy, but far away from being monster-sized.</p>
<p>There is a lot of more things I could wrote about this topic (actually I wrote an aritcle about this topic for a magazine which is about 9pages long).</p>
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		<title>By: korollocke</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have heard of nine footers in wyoming. monster quest did a monster fish ep and told of boy being knocked out of his boat and devoured by the big fish. The version of the giant dam fish in montana has jaques as the famous diver claiming big catfish at holterdam that would swallow them whole, can&#039;t verify that one. It&#039;s colorful though...also on a simular note flathead lake in montana is said to have a lake monster and it&#039;s deep, supposedly deeper than divers or subs can go, think thats a bit of an exageration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard of nine footers in wyoming. monster quest did a monster fish ep and told of boy being knocked out of his boat and devoured by the big fish. The version of the giant dam fish in montana has jaques as the famous diver claiming big catfish at holterdam that would swallow them whole, can&#8217;t verify that one. It&#8217;s colorful though&#8230;also on a simular note flathead lake in montana is said to have a lake monster and it&#8217;s deep, supposedly deeper than divers or subs can go, think thats a bit of an exageration.</p>
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		<title>By: AlbertaSasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlbertaSasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s hilarious, I never knew that was such a common myth.  Where I live in Alberta there is a powerplant and dam close by and I heard that scuba divers had to go down to the water intake of the powerplant to clean it.  When they got down I heard they were seeing northern pike(the big fish around here)  as big as themselves and it put quite the scare into a few them.  Now a northern pike thats 5 or 6 feet long couldn&#039;t eat a person or a kid for that matter but they could give you one hell of a bite that might take a good chunk out of you(their teeth are very sharp and long just ask my hand!)
But now after reading this I am wondering if it was just another urban myth with a little local flair added to make it more believable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hilarious, I never knew that was such a common myth.  Where I live in Alberta there is a powerplant and dam close by and I heard that scuba divers had to go down to the water intake of the powerplant to clean it.  When they got down I heard they were seeing northern pike(the big fish around here)  as big as themselves and it put quite the scare into a few them.  Now a northern pike thats 5 or 6 feet long couldn&#8217;t eat a person or a kid for that matter but they could give you one hell of a bite that might take a good chunk out of you(their teeth are very sharp and long just ask my hand!)<br />
But now after reading this I am wondering if it was just another urban myth with a little local flair added to make it more believable.</p>
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		<title>By: Amdusias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amdusias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CryptidsRus, I really wouldn&#039;t eat a cat that was that big. Can you imagine how many years he has been feeding off of the bottom, soaking up mercury and pesticides? I wonder if glandular tumors may not add to the limit of size that these creatures can get, like our own HGH giants...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CryptidsRus, I really wouldn&#8217;t eat a cat that was that big. Can you imagine how many years he has been feeding off of the bottom, soaking up mercury and pesticides? I wonder if glandular tumors may not add to the limit of size that these creatures can get, like our own HGH giants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta get me a giant jar of tartar sauce with that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta get me a giant jar of tartar sauce with that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rogutaan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogutaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Aquaculture professor had a similar story to the basketball, except I think he said it was one of crappy red rubber balls.  He punctured it with a sharpened pole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Aquaculture professor had a similar story to the basketball, except I think he said it was one of crappy red rubber balls.  He punctured it with a sharpened pole.</p>
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		<title>By: Ranatemporaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranatemporaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many anglers here in the UK travel to Italy and Spain in search of giant wells catfish. As stated this is a different species to that of the U.S.  There 150lb fish are not unusual.  I believe the record for a line caught fish stands between 220-250lb but there are undoubtedly larger uncaught fish on the continent.

&lt;a title=&quot;&#039;Jaws&#039; record-breaking catfish caught in Spain&quot; href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-418174/Jaws-record-breaking-catfish-caught-Spain.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Jaws&#039; record-breaking catfish caught in Spain&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many anglers here in the UK travel to Italy and Spain in search of giant wells catfish. As stated this is a different species to that of the U.S.  There 150lb fish are not unusual.  I believe the record for a line caught fish stands between 220-250lb but there are undoubtedly larger uncaught fish on the continent.</p>
<p><a title="'Jaws' record-breaking catfish caught in Spain" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-418174/Jaws-record-breaking-catfish-caught-Spain.html" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Jaws&#8217; record-breaking catfish caught in Spain</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amdusias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amdusias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My roomie in school used to fish the dam at the Griffey reservor in Bloomington, Indiana, with a salt water rig for some unbelievable (I thought) catfish. Nothing the size of a car, however.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My roomie in school used to fish the dam at the Griffey reservor in Bloomington, Indiana, with a salt water rig for some unbelievable (I thought) catfish. Nothing the size of a car, however.</p>
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		<title>By: pre-cbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>pre-cbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The European Catfish (&lt;em&gt;Siluris glanis&lt;/em&gt;) can grow up to 5 meters and weigh up to 400kg. it can grow as long as a Volkswagen but the weight is not near.

I have seen a Catfish that weighed nearly 150kgs [330 pds] and it was about 3 meters [9 feet] long. That was a huge fish and I am sure it could eat a child without any trouble. Not too long ago there was a Catfish in a pond that ate an old woman&#039;s dog (in Germany if I remember correct). They eat seabirds as well.

The length of a Volkswagen is already reached in Europe so why not in the States, especially in areas where the climate and the environment is similar?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The European Catfish (<em>Siluris glanis</em>) can grow up to 5 meters and weigh up to 400kg. it can grow as long as a Volkswagen but the weight is not near.</p>
<p>I have seen a Catfish that weighed nearly 150kgs [330 pds] and it was about 3 meters [9 feet] long. That was a huge fish and I am sure it could eat a child without any trouble. Not too long ago there was a Catfish in a pond that ate an old woman&#8217;s dog (in Germany if I remember correct). They eat seabirds as well.</p>
<p>The length of a Volkswagen is already reached in Europe so why not in the States, especially in areas where the climate and the environment is similar?</p>
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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When fish have an over abundance of food and don&#039;t have to really fight any currents, you would be surprised at how big they can get.  I know a scuba diver here who has his own business cleaning out the man made pond&#039;s drainage systems.  He said that there&#039;s one with big mouth bass as big as he is, and that was determined because the reflective flashes he saw were a little over half his height.  Which means that about half the fish caught what little light there is and reflected it.  Now, I&#039;m not sure just how big fish can get.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s some sort of &quot;off&quot; switch that says, &quot;grow anymore and I kill you,&quot; and it means it.  Humans have it (actually we have a few).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When fish have an over abundance of food and don&#8217;t have to really fight any currents, you would be surprised at how big they can get.  I know a scuba diver here who has his own business cleaning out the man made pond&#8217;s drainage systems.  He said that there&#8217;s one with big mouth bass as big as he is, and that was determined because the reflective flashes he saw were a little over half his height.  Which means that about half the fish caught what little light there is and reflected it.  Now, I&#8217;m not sure just how big fish can get.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s some sort of &#8220;off&#8221; switch that says, &#8220;grow anymore and I kill you,&#8221; and it means it.  Humans have it (actually we have a few).</p>
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