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		<title>By: BlueMountainTracker</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46895</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueMountainTracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has happened here is a disgrace all the way around. I for one...was a deep skeptic about BF until just a few years ago. I am actively tracking him, researching him and since the summer of 2006 I actually believe in him. What some of us have seen is far from hoax, yet punks like this ruin the hard work most of us put into our work and discredit all of us in the public eye.
Though I have my own theory about BFand have taken only two photo's of some good prints early in my intrigue...I find that tracking him is like looking for a needle in a haystack and researching legitimate claims is getting harder to do. I fell for this one at first. What little I have accomplished still has credibility, but these flukes and thier shananagan tactic made it hard for anyone to want to talk about thier experience. Who wants the whitewash? Who wants the biased media attention? 
I only look down on these two idiots and Biscardi, Steve is A-OK in my book. What would you have done? Steve is also straight on his facts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened here is a disgrace all the way around. I for one&#8230;was a deep skeptic about BF until just a few years ago. I am actively tracking him, researching him and since the summer of 2006 I actually believe in him. What some of us have seen is far from hoax, yet punks like this ruin the hard work most of us put into our work and discredit all of us in the public eye.<br />
Though I have my own theory about BFand have taken only two photo&#8217;s of some good prints early in my intrigue&#8230;I find that tracking him is like looking for a needle in a haystack and researching legitimate claims is getting harder to do. I fell for this one at first. What little I have accomplished still has credibility, but these flukes and thier shananagan tactic made it hard for anyone to want to talk about thier experience. Who wants the whitewash? Who wants the biased media attention?<br />
I only look down on these two idiots and Biscardi, Steve is A-OK in my book. What would you have done? Steve is also straight on his facts!</p>
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		<title>By: hudgeliberal</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46480</link>
		<dc:creator>hudgeliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, after reading Steve Kulls statement on Squatchdetective website, I must say that maybe I was a bit too harsh on Steve. 

Now that he has seemingly cut all ties with Biscardi (which he should have known better than to be involved with him to begin with), I can maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and it has restored a bit of respect for him. Now, whether he sticks with it or ends back up with SFB team..who knows? I think he made the right decision in telling the truth about Biscardi and all his efforts to lie and cover up a sad hoax. 

I always enjoy listening to Steve and had respect for him; now it is time for him to get back to reality and leave the glory seeking hucksters alone. I think you made a good move Steve and I for one, retract some of my statements that I made about you in a few responses. 

Still, I think you had to know what Biscardi was all about considering his very ugly history and the fact that he learned his craft at the foot of one of the greatest huckster/hoaxers of all time..Ivan Marx. 

I know Biscardi and team will carry on and many will continue to trust them and throw money their way..that is everyones right. I just would like to see Biscardi find another interest and leave the field of cryptozoology alone. At least leave the hunt for Sasquatch to the REAL enthusiasts and researchers. 

Maybe Biscardi can go after ghosts..seem to be a lot of hoaxers and fakes in that and heck, all you have to do is say you feel a cold draft in a room and that is enough to get your credibility established in the "ghost hunter" world..LOL. 

Take care everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, after reading Steve Kulls statement on Squatchdetective website, I must say that maybe I was a bit too harsh on Steve. </p>
<p>Now that he has seemingly cut all ties with Biscardi (which he should have known better than to be involved with him to begin with), I can maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and it has restored a bit of respect for him. Now, whether he sticks with it or ends back up with SFB team..who knows? I think he made the right decision in telling the truth about Biscardi and all his efforts to lie and cover up a sad hoax. </p>
<p>I always enjoy listening to Steve and had respect for him; now it is time for him to get back to reality and leave the glory seeking hucksters alone. I think you made a good move Steve and I for one, retract some of my statements that I made about you in a few responses. </p>
<p>Still, I think you had to know what Biscardi was all about considering his very ugly history and the fact that he learned his craft at the foot of one of the greatest huckster/hoaxers of all time..Ivan Marx. </p>
<p>I know Biscardi and team will carry on and many will continue to trust them and throw money their way..that is everyones right. I just would like to see Biscardi find another interest and leave the field of cryptozoology alone. At least leave the hunt for Sasquatch to the REAL enthusiasts and researchers. </p>
<p>Maybe Biscardi can go after ghosts..seem to be a lot of hoaxers and fakes in that and heck, all you have to do is say you feel a cold draft in a room and that is enough to get your credibility established in the &#8220;ghost hunter&#8221; world..LOL. </p>
<p>Take care everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: MinnBob</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46409</link>
		<dc:creator>MinnBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Kull innocent? Pa-leeze! He's as much a publicity hound as Biscardi, hosting his own radio show and making television appearances on "Monster Quest", "Destination Truth" and other sensationalistic programs. Always so close, but never actually revealing anything. Puts on a good "show" of it though. In fact, he's been a friend and associate of Teflon Tom Biscardi for YEARS! Beevus and Butt-head (aka Whitton and Dyer) hadn't even heard of Biscardi until they were on Steve Kull's radio show, who do you think introduced them to each other. Any SERIOUS bigfoot researcher KNOWS that Biscardi is a hoaxer and not to be trusted. It seems old Steve has just taken a chapter out of Tom's book of tricks in saying he had nothing to do with the perpetration of this latest fiasco. But he's just as Kull-pable as the other three idiots. Only now that's it's garnered such nationwide disgrace, is he trying to distance himself, and trying to make himself out to be the hero on top of it all. Loren and Matt Moneymaker should be proud of the objective way they handled themselves and not jumping after a quick buck as Biscardi and Kull have so shamelessly done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Kull innocent? Pa-leeze! He&#8217;s as much a publicity hound as Biscardi, hosting his own radio show and making television appearances on &#8220;Monster Quest&#8221;, &#8220;Destination Truth&#8221; and other sensationalistic programs. Always so close, but never actually revealing anything. Puts on a good &#8220;show&#8221; of it though. In fact, he&#8217;s been a friend and associate of Teflon Tom Biscardi for YEARS! Beevus and Butt-head (aka Whitton and Dyer) hadn&#8217;t even heard of Biscardi until they were on Steve Kull&#8217;s radio show, who do you think introduced them to each other. Any SERIOUS bigfoot researcher KNOWS that Biscardi is a hoaxer and not to be trusted. It seems old Steve has just taken a chapter out of Tom&#8217;s book of tricks in saying he had nothing to do with the perpetration of this latest fiasco. But he&#8217;s just as Kull-pable as the other three idiots. Only now that&#8217;s it&#8217;s garnered such nationwide disgrace, is he trying to distance himself, and trying to make himself out to be the hero on top of it all. Loren and Matt Moneymaker should be proud of the objective way they handled themselves and not jumping after a quick buck as Biscardi and Kull have so shamelessly done.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelley</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46329</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"However, in all of this, I have been feeling like Cryptomundo, while reporting what was happening and keeping the crypto-community abreast of what was going on, only served as free publicity for these bozos in all of this."

Paradoxically, because of the massive influx of viewers from outside the usual Cryptomundo set, fewer readers actually saw any of the info that Loren was trying to post. I heard from a few people who were trying to follow the links from Fox or other sites that they never got in, and I certainly did not see anything on the site until today. So Cryptomundo didn't provide that much free publicity! But on the other hand, Loren's insightful comments couldn't be read, either.  

I think that the attacks on the function of Cryptomundo, and the cost and effort that Loren had to go through to get the site up and running is a kind of modern-day book burning, similar to the attacks that these two morons made last month against Loren's printed writings.

The whole thing has been a disgusting view of what certain people think is acceptable behavior, in destroying the public image of cryptozoology, for no reason whatsoever.  They don't even seem to have made that much money out of it?! And their fame is probably infamy--even Fox, which initially pushed the whole thing before the general public, would not want anything to do with either of these morons, should they surface. So no $$$ there and one has lost his job.  

All in all, a pointless exhibition that seems to have injured everyone who was even remotely interested in the topic. I only hope that this doesn't injure the efforts to save the Museum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, in all of this, I have been feeling like Cryptomundo, while reporting what was happening and keeping the crypto-community abreast of what was going on, only served as free publicity for these bozos in all of this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Paradoxically, because of the massive influx of viewers from outside the usual Cryptomundo set, fewer readers actually saw any of the info that Loren was trying to post. I heard from a few people who were trying to follow the links from Fox or other sites that they never got in, and I certainly did not see anything on the site until today. So Cryptomundo didn&#8217;t provide that much free publicity! But on the other hand, Loren&#8217;s insightful comments couldn&#8217;t be read, either.  </p>
<p>I think that the attacks on the function of Cryptomundo, and the cost and effort that Loren had to go through to get the site up and running is a kind of modern-day book burning, similar to the attacks that these two morons made last month against Loren&#8217;s printed writings.</p>
<p>The whole thing has been a disgusting view of what certain people think is acceptable behavior, in destroying the public image of cryptozoology, for no reason whatsoever.  They don&#8217;t even seem to have made that much money out of it?! And their fame is probably infamy&#8211;even Fox, which initially pushed the whole thing before the general public, would not want anything to do with either of these morons, should they surface. So no $$$ there and one has lost his job.  </p>
<p>All in all, a pointless exhibition that seems to have injured everyone who was even remotely interested in the topic. I only hope that this doesn&#8217;t injure the efforts to save the Museum.</p>
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		<title>By: Weezy</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46303</link>
		<dc:creator>Weezy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can't comprehend how anyone, anywhere in the world would think that this is funny, that a hoax like this is comical. I'd have to assume that people like that are a little messed up in the head and have no idea what is too far and where that line is between funny and moronic. I still fully believe there could be a Bigfoot and I think this hoax only damages the opinions of those who already didn't believe. Incredibly lame hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t comprehend how anyone, anywhere in the world would think that this is funny, that a hoax like this is comical. I&#8217;d have to assume that people like that are a little messed up in the head and have no idea what is too far and where that line is between funny and moronic. I still fully believe there could be a Bigfoot and I think this hoax only damages the opinions of those who already didn&#8217;t believe. Incredibly lame hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: hudgeliberal</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46302</link>
		<dc:creator>hudgeliberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,I am glad that Kulls is finally throwing a stone at Biscardi,on his show monday he lost a lot of credibility by refusing to rip Biscardi and tell the truth. I think there is a lot more to this story and we may never know the truth. I think Biscardi,Kulls and the two morons from Georgia are all responsible. I really think that Kulls,in constantly supporting Biscardi,a known hoaxer who was groomed by the master showman/huckster/hoaxer...Ivan Marx,has finally let his relationship with Biscardi destroy his credibility in the bigfoot community. I think Steve is probably a really good guy(dont know him personally)but in talking to several people in the community nearly every person has lost faith in Steve as a researcher/reporter. Kathy Strain took him to task on his show and instead of letting Biscardi have it...he simply said nothing. He kept repeating "blame the boys from Georgia..that is where the blame should go" over and over,all the while the chat room(with many well known people in the community present)and phone calls were urging him to tell the "whole" truth and break ties with Biscardi. A sad way to lose credit. I think that should be a nice example to anyone who is involved with those people who always seem to get wood-knocks,audio,sightings and such on every expedition..guilt by association has sent many men to jail. If someone charges for expeditions and always seem to come through with a track,knock,or some form of encounter...well,you better guard your checkbook and reputation. As most real enthusiasts/researchers know,if you have only one or two "encounters" with these creatures in your lifetime then you should be considered lucky. Watch out for those who always strike gold..could be fools gold my friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,I am glad that Kulls is finally throwing a stone at Biscardi,on his show monday he lost a lot of credibility by refusing to rip Biscardi and tell the truth. I think there is a lot more to this story and we may never know the truth. I think Biscardi,Kulls and the two morons from Georgia are all responsible. I really think that Kulls,in constantly supporting Biscardi,a known hoaxer who was groomed by the master showman/huckster/hoaxer&#8230;Ivan Marx,has finally let his relationship with Biscardi destroy his credibility in the bigfoot community. I think Steve is probably a really good guy(dont know him personally)but in talking to several people in the community nearly every person has lost faith in Steve as a researcher/reporter. Kathy Strain took him to task on his show and instead of letting Biscardi have it&#8230;he simply said nothing. He kept repeating &#8220;blame the boys from Georgia..that is where the blame should go&#8221; over and over,all the while the chat room(with many well known people in the community present)and phone calls were urging him to tell the &#8220;whole&#8221; truth and break ties with Biscardi. A sad way to lose credit. I think that should be a nice example to anyone who is involved with those people who always seem to get wood-knocks,audio,sightings and such on every expedition..guilt by association has sent many men to jail. If someone charges for expeditions and always seem to come through with a track,knock,or some form of encounter&#8230;well,you better guard your checkbook and reputation. As most real enthusiasts/researchers know,if you have only one or two &#8220;encounters&#8221; with these creatures in your lifetime then you should be considered lucky. Watch out for those who always strike gold..could be fools gold my friends.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46298</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the loss of their careers and public embarassment is punishment enough. 

As for Biscardi, his career is likewise over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the loss of their careers and public embarassment is punishment enough. </p>
<p>As for Biscardi, his career is likewise over.</p>
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		<title>By: springheeledjack</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46292</link>
		<dc:creator>springheeledjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The apology doesn't mean anything...they are just apologizing because they got publicly caught (I only say publicly because there were plenty of us that were on to them before they ever got this far).

This brings up an important point for me.  I understand that Cryptomundo brings news of cryptids and new species as they are discovered.  AND occasionally things are reported here that bring out hoaxes, misidentifications and what not.  That is all a part of the game, I suppose.

However, in all of this, I have been feeling like Cryptomundo, while reporting what was happening and keeping the crypto-community abreast of what was going on, only served as free publicity for these bozos in all of this.  I know they had vids on YouTube and they had their own website and what not, but I still feel like this web site only served their purposes more than it served to get to the bottom of what was going on.

In this day with technology being what it is, and with the abundance of people with either too much time on their hands, or out to cash in on something like this, I think Cryptomundo needs to be wary of these kinds of circumstances.

I think Cryptomundo has a responsibility to report these things, especially when a situation like the Georgia Incident occurrs, but the site also has to be responsible and not feed into these types of shysters.  It may be a fine line Cryptomundo needs to walk, reporting news without publicizing, but I think it is an issue that needs to be in the back of our minds when dealing with stories like these.  

Cryptomundo needs to take a proactive approach, and take these kinds of claims with a grain of salt, as it were, until definitive evidence is given.

I was disappointed that the Georgia boys were given so much attention when they had not come across with anything other than weak claims and attempts at fraud and lying from the outset.

SHJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The apology doesn&#8217;t mean anything&#8230;they are just apologizing because they got publicly caught (I only say publicly because there were plenty of us that were on to them before they ever got this far).</p>
<p>This brings up an important point for me.  I understand that Cryptomundo brings news of cryptids and new species as they are discovered.  AND occasionally things are reported here that bring out hoaxes, misidentifications and what not.  That is all a part of the game, I suppose.</p>
<p>However, in all of this, I have been feeling like Cryptomundo, while reporting what was happening and keeping the crypto-community abreast of what was going on, only served as free publicity for these bozos in all of this.  I know they had vids on YouTube and they had their own website and what not, but I still feel like this web site only served their purposes more than it served to get to the bottom of what was going on.</p>
<p>In this day with technology being what it is, and with the abundance of people with either too much time on their hands, or out to cash in on something like this, I think Cryptomundo needs to be wary of these kinds of circumstances.</p>
<p>I think Cryptomundo has a responsibility to report these things, especially when a situation like the Georgia Incident occurrs, but the site also has to be responsible and not feed into these types of shysters.  It may be a fine line Cryptomundo needs to walk, reporting news without publicizing, but I think it is an issue that needs to be in the back of our minds when dealing with stories like these.  </p>
<p>Cryptomundo needs to take a proactive approach, and take these kinds of claims with a grain of salt, as it were, until definitive evidence is given.</p>
<p>I was disappointed that the Georgia boys were given so much attention when they had not come across with anything other than weak claims and attempts at fraud and lying from the outset.</p>
<p>SHJ</p>
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		<title>By: eaglegene</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46291</link>
		<dc:creator>eaglegene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If thats a confession then i am Santa Claus. I'd never accept anything from them again. Their done in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If thats a confession then i am Santa Claus. I&#8217;d never accept anything from them again. Their done in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: escAPEe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bftker-apologies/#comment-46289</link>
		<dc:creator>escAPEe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even before this scheme unravelled, people were warning that the alleged BF body in the freezer would disappear and we would never uncover the truth.  Such a conclusion would have been the cleanest and easiest way for this whole matter to end for Tom, Matt and Rick-- losing the physical evidence in transit somewhere between Georgia and California.  But thanks to the integrity, persistence and determination of Steve Kulls, the whole world now knows the rest of this story.  While he was still on the site of the unthawing in Indiana on Monday, he could not speak freely.  But once he was safely on his way back home Tuesday, he exposed this as being both a hoax and fraudulent scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even before this scheme unravelled, people were warning that the alleged BF body in the freezer would disappear and we would never uncover the truth.  Such a conclusion would have been the cleanest and easiest way for this whole matter to end for Tom, Matt and Rick&#8211; losing the physical evidence in transit somewhere between Georgia and California.  But thanks to the integrity, persistence and determination of Steve Kulls, the whole world now knows the rest of this story.  While he was still on the site of the unthawing in Indiana on Monday, he could not speak freely.  But once he was safely on his way back home Tuesday, he exposed this as being both a hoax and fraudulent scheme.</p>
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