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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I&#039;m a scientist, and I hear about anything that is vouched for by anyone featured in this blog, it&#039;s another fake.  Pure and simple.

If I&#039;m a bigfoot, I&#039;m thanking my Creator for Bigfooters, if this is what they&#039;re all like; they&#039;ll ensure that I never get poked prodded or specimenized by science.

That&#039;s what it is, Loren:  back-channel hysteria.  By people who might want to find something productive to do with their time, like search for the sasquatch.  Or better yet:  get a Real Job, and leave the field to folks who actually want to do that.

One wonders why the TBRC never rubs off on any of these clowns.  Might do them some good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m a scientist, and I hear about anything that is vouched for by anyone featured in this blog, it&#8217;s another fake.  Pure and simple.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m a bigfoot, I&#8217;m thanking my Creator for Bigfooters, if this is what they&#8217;re all like; they&#8217;ll ensure that I never get poked prodded or specimenized by science.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what it is, Loren:  back-channel hysteria.  By people who might want to find something productive to do with their time, like search for the sasquatch.  Or better yet:  get a Real Job, and leave the field to folks who actually want to do that.</p>
<p>One wonders why the TBRC never rubs off on any of these clowns.  Might do them some good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mausinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mausinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 17:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is satire right?  Looking at the posts here, they look just like the junior high crap that gets posted on the Bigfoot forums.  Please tell me this is satire.  It has digressed even to the point of veiled threats by some.  Too many Keyboard Commandos troll the forums these days.  I don&#039;t want to believe this sort of BS has been imported over to this site as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is satire right?  Looking at the posts here, they look just like the junior high crap that gets posted on the Bigfoot forums.  Please tell me this is satire.  It has digressed even to the point of veiled threats by some.  Too many Keyboard Commandos troll the forums these days.  I don&#8217;t want to believe this sort of BS has been imported over to this site as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good luck on the book Size 13, and the movie.  As someone currently dealing with authorship it can be a great deal of work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck on the book Size 13, and the movie.  As someone currently dealing with authorship it can be a great deal of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John,

&quot;Which part of, “I don’t know you” did you not comprehend?&quot;

This part, &quot;The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth&quot; as it relates to this part, &quot;Nope Ace. I Don’t know you. I was speaking about the people I am familiar with.&quot;  They can&#039;t both be true.

I better understand though that you do not wish to be respectful or honest, and that&#039;s fine.  I&#039;ve had enough of your &quot;online&quot; persona and I hope to never meet you in &quot;real&quot; life.  Though if you do see me out in the field (which is where I spend a great deal of my time), feel free to call me Ace!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>&#8220;Which part of, “I don’t know you” did you not comprehend?&#8221;</p>
<p>This part, &#8220;The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth&#8221; as it relates to this part, &#8220;Nope Ace. I Don’t know you. I was speaking about the people I am familiar with.&#8221;  They can&#8217;t both be true.</p>
<p>I better understand though that you do not wish to be respectful or honest, and that&#8217;s fine.  I&#8217;ve had enough of your &#8220;online&#8221; persona and I hope to never meet you in &#8220;real&#8221; life.  Though if you do see me out in the field (which is where I spend a great deal of my time), feel free to call me Ace!</p>
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		<title>By: size 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>size 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this dysfunctional or what?
I am currently writing a story about this very thing, IT IS a Comedy.
Would make a good movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this dysfunctional or what?<br />
I am currently writing a story about this very thing, IT IS a Comedy.<br />
Would make a good movie.</p>
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		<title>By: John Cartwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ace,

Which part of, &quot;I don&#039;t know you&quot; did you not comprehend? Seeing as I was banned over 2 years ago and as you were a Mod for a little over a month, your part in this is non existent at best to me. I have no problem with you personally and really don&#039;t even know who you are or even care. Do you have a real name? If you are proud about your moderation skills step out into the light. Need my real name? It is listed above. I am the guy who was raped by 5 Bigfoot as reported right here on this blog. So don&#039;t whine to me about being called a &quot;pod&quot;. This is a full contact sport and you are going to get your jersey dirty. 

I could write a book about my problems with the major players listed above starting with them harassing me when I came to some of them as a witness. I also saw them give the same treatment to countless other witnesses and investigators over the years on that forum.  Newbies and potential witnesses now may know who to avoid. That is what matters most to us who do investigations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ace,</p>
<p>Which part of, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know you&#8221; did you not comprehend? Seeing as I was banned over 2 years ago and as you were a Mod for a little over a month, your part in this is non existent at best to me. I have no problem with you personally and really don&#8217;t even know who you are or even care. Do you have a real name? If you are proud about your moderation skills step out into the light. Need my real name? It is listed above. I am the guy who was raped by 5 Bigfoot as reported right here on this blog. So don&#8217;t whine to me about being called a &#8220;pod&#8221;. This is a full contact sport and you are going to get your jersey dirty. </p>
<p>I could write a book about my problems with the major players listed above starting with them harassing me when I came to some of them as a witness. I also saw them give the same treatment to countless other witnesses and investigators over the years on that forum.  Newbies and potential witnesses now may know who to avoid. That is what matters most to us who do investigations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Therein lies a problem Jim (and to others).  You don&#039;t really believe what you wrote, &quot;The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth&quot; or you don&#039;t know it to be true.  But, you&#039;re propogating it.  The original poster of those comments doesn&#039;t know me, hasn&#039;t had an interaction with me, as well as some of the others mentioned in his blog.  Steven re-posts it with his own general comments, it gets re-posted from Steven&#039;s blog by Loren and you make a general comment and now it becomes more than it was.  People reading it now think that several people are agreeing on the same thing when in fact NONE of you know all the people being described in the original blog.

So, if you or Ganglian/mikeyx (Mike), Steven, Loren or anyone else had a problem with me and cited examples we could talk about our disagreements.  At this point though none of you have done that.  If you, Mike, Steven, Loren or anyone else has a specific example of being mistreated by someone else, another administrator or moderator, a link to the thread on BFF (or anywhere else) could show that, but instead generalizations are made, remade, reposted, regurgitated.  I didn&#039;t always agree with moderation when I was a member, but it didn&#039;t mean it wasn&#039;t done fairly or objectively or in the best interest of the forum.  That being said, there are going to be disagreements when there are people involved and I think people forget that, that people are involved.  I didn&#039;t always agree with everyone on BFF, but it didn&#039;t mean I should get my way.  I was a guest there and could leave at any time.

I was made a full moderator on July 9, 2010 (as were several other moderators) and the BFF was shut down August 16, 2010.  Really think I destroyed the forum as it was known in just over a month?  Did all of these detractors have an issue over my moderation in that short time?  The answer is no.  If they did, they would have said something at the time.

I&#039;m just asking you guys to take a step back from your personal issues with one or two or a few people and give examples of your mistreatment and leave the others out of it.  If you have a problem with me directly, show my where/why and we can talk about it.  We may never agree, but if you give me/people a chance to talk it through, we might.  It&#039;s a lot more straight forward and honest than posting someone is dead nuts right about something in which they aren&#039;t (again, the &quot;anonymous blogger&quot; doesn&#039;t know me in any way and has no basis for his post).  Also, I would ask that people be respectful of others, even if you feel hurt by someone.  Be respectful and honest.  Is that too much to ask?

So kopite and steleheart, in what way were mistreated by all of the moderators on BFF.  Can you link to the posts in where you were mistreated, or are you making hollow comments without respect and honesty?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therein lies a problem Jim (and to others).  You don&#8217;t really believe what you wrote, &#8220;The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth&#8221; or you don&#8217;t know it to be true.  But, you&#8217;re propogating it.  The original poster of those comments doesn&#8217;t know me, hasn&#8217;t had an interaction with me, as well as some of the others mentioned in his blog.  Steven re-posts it with his own general comments, it gets re-posted from Steven&#8217;s blog by Loren and you make a general comment and now it becomes more than it was.  People reading it now think that several people are agreeing on the same thing when in fact NONE of you know all the people being described in the original blog.</p>
<p>So, if you or Ganglian/mikeyx (Mike), Steven, Loren or anyone else had a problem with me and cited examples we could talk about our disagreements.  At this point though none of you have done that.  If you, Mike, Steven, Loren or anyone else has a specific example of being mistreated by someone else, another administrator or moderator, a link to the thread on BFF (or anywhere else) could show that, but instead generalizations are made, remade, reposted, regurgitated.  I didn&#8217;t always agree with moderation when I was a member, but it didn&#8217;t mean it wasn&#8217;t done fairly or objectively or in the best interest of the forum.  That being said, there are going to be disagreements when there are people involved and I think people forget that, that people are involved.  I didn&#8217;t always agree with everyone on BFF, but it didn&#8217;t mean I should get my way.  I was a guest there and could leave at any time.</p>
<p>I was made a full moderator on July 9, 2010 (as were several other moderators) and the BFF was shut down August 16, 2010.  Really think I destroyed the forum as it was known in just over a month?  Did all of these detractors have an issue over my moderation in that short time?  The answer is no.  If they did, they would have said something at the time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just asking you guys to take a step back from your personal issues with one or two or a few people and give examples of your mistreatment and leave the others out of it.  If you have a problem with me directly, show my where/why and we can talk about it.  We may never agree, but if you give me/people a chance to talk it through, we might.  It&#8217;s a lot more straight forward and honest than posting someone is dead nuts right about something in which they aren&#8217;t (again, the &#8220;anonymous blogger&#8221; doesn&#8217;t know me in any way and has no basis for his post).  Also, I would ask that people be respectful of others, even if you feel hurt by someone.  Be respectful and honest.  Is that too much to ask?</p>
<p>So kopite and steleheart, in what way were mistreated by all of the moderators on BFF.  Can you link to the posts in where you were mistreated, or are you making hollow comments without respect and honesty?</p>
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		<title>By: Kopite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kopite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Cartwright wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes they are. You won&#039;t find too many people disagreeing with those comments, unless of course they are part of the &#039;injured party&#039;. It then stands to reason they are going to disagree because they never do anything wrong. Oh no. Even after they have completely ruined the BFF you&#039;ll never get them admitting to any culpability.

As an outsider looking in and observing all these shenanigans over the years I have to say I agree completely with the comments in the blog. They ARE spot on.

Oh and just in case any members of &#039;the mob&#039; are thinking it, no you WON&#039;T be able to threaten or silence anybody on Cryptomundo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Cartwright wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>The comments in that blog may sting and seem shocking to some, but they are the spot on truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes they are. You won&#8217;t find too many people disagreeing with those comments, unless of course they are part of the &#8216;injured party&#8217;. It then stands to reason they are going to disagree because they never do anything wrong. Oh no. Even after they have completely ruined the BFF you&#8217;ll never get them admitting to any culpability.</p>
<p>As an outsider looking in and observing all these shenanigans over the years I have to say I agree completely with the comments in the blog. They ARE spot on.</p>
<p>Oh and just in case any members of &#8216;the mob&#8217; are thinking it, no you WON&#8217;T be able to threaten or silence anybody on Cryptomundo.</p>
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		<title>By: Steleheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steleheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot On Loren! Thanks for bringing this topic out into the open.

 Slander, Libel and gossip are prosecutable offences - much more serious than shenanigans haha, but as Loren said, this has nothing to do with Cryptozoology.

 Unfortunately, as all of you know,  This baloney is like a cancer in the field. Ultimately each must ask himself &quot;am I contributing or detracting?&quot;
 but then there is honesty, LOLOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot On Loren! Thanks for bringing this topic out into the open.</p>
<p> Slander, Libel and gossip are prosecutable offences &#8211; much more serious than shenanigans haha, but as Loren said, this has nothing to do with Cryptozoology.</p>
<p> Unfortunately, as all of you know,  This baloney is like a cancer in the field. Ultimately each must ask himself &#8220;am I contributing or detracting?&#8221;<br />
 but then there is honesty, LOLOL</p>
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		<title>By: Steleheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steleheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soooooo....

All of these posts seem to indicate that I was right about anonymity - it&#039;s a scourge that detracts from serious research.

Blaming Loren for this post; baloney. If you had your real name and rep out there you&#039;d be more careful what you say.

Honestly I think reputable blogs and forums should require ID. I&#039;ll pay a buck, hell I&#039;ll pay 20 bucks, plus the forum gets some $ to keep going.

Craig, Loren, consider this. Break new ground, make a new standard. Lead the way!
 
I am Donald Hardiman btw, find me on facebook or see my posts here as &#039;Steleheart&#039; or on &#039;facebook/findbigfoot and facebook/Impossible Visits: Bigfoot/Sasquatch Research with Live Daily Updates.&#039; I am not a researcher, biologist, PhD or Zoologist. I am just an interested janitor and I have no problem telling anyone who I am.

Do you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soooooo&#8230;.</p>
<p>All of these posts seem to indicate that I was right about anonymity &#8211; it&#8217;s a scourge that detracts from serious research.</p>
<p>Blaming Loren for this post; baloney. If you had your real name and rep out there you&#8217;d be more careful what you say.</p>
<p>Honestly I think reputable blogs and forums should require ID. I&#8217;ll pay a buck, hell I&#8217;ll pay 20 bucks, plus the forum gets some $ to keep going.</p>
<p>Craig, Loren, consider this. Break new ground, make a new standard. Lead the way!</p>
<p>I am Donald Hardiman btw, find me on facebook or see my posts here as &#8216;Steleheart&#8217; or on &#8216;facebook/findbigfoot and facebook/Impossible Visits: Bigfoot/Sasquatch Research with Live Daily Updates.&#8217; I am not a researcher, biologist, PhD or Zoologist. I am just an interested janitor and I have no problem telling anyone who I am.</p>
<p>Do you?</p>
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