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	<title>Comments on: New BC Sasquatch Sighting</title>
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		<title>By: Lightning Orb</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bc-jun08/comment-page-1/#comment-45228</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightning Orb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guy&#039;s description of Sasquatch was &quot;too accurate to be a joke&quot;?  While this particular instance sounds reasonably legit to me, I don&#039;t think the possibility of a joke should be ruled out just for the accurate sounding description.  If one were to do things right, they would first research the basis of their joke, acquiring some knowledge of their beast of honor.  As to the footprints, these could be faked as long as there are trees in the right places (preferably near the beginning and end of the trail).  One could have gone about it in a similar way to some crop circle makers, who were supposed to have tied ropes to trees at either end of a field, then pulled themselves to the center, leaving no incriminating footprints.  If one were to wear large stompers and tie a rope across the expanse of the alleged tracks, they could leave tracks at any distance needed.  Would a bigfoot really walk &quot;straight over a two foot high shrub&quot;, or just crash through it?  And notice how Mr. Miller states the tracks &quot;are in a straight line, like he was walking a tight rope&quot;...  This tale sounds like an actual encounter to me, though the tracks could have been faked with the rope tactic (not that anyone would actually do it - then again, some of those &quot;crop circles&quot; were surprisingly complex).  Perhaps the greatest reason I feel this story has something to it is of course the lack of motive; unless the witness has some grudge on scientists or something, I don&#039;t see why he would do all this elaborate hoaxing.  I suppose he technically could have actually just seen a big hairy boxer, but then again we don&#039;t really know what bigfoot is, do we?

DWA and mystery_man, I hate to disappoint you, but what you&#039;re actually seeing is the reflection in an iridescent fog of some drunk boxing hobo in a monkey suit walking his pet mangy otter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy&#8217;s description of Sasquatch was &#8220;too accurate to be a joke&#8221;?  While this particular instance sounds reasonably legit to me, I don&#8217;t think the possibility of a joke should be ruled out just for the accurate sounding description.  If one were to do things right, they would first research the basis of their joke, acquiring some knowledge of their beast of honor.  As to the footprints, these could be faked as long as there are trees in the right places (preferably near the beginning and end of the trail).  One could have gone about it in a similar way to some crop circle makers, who were supposed to have tied ropes to trees at either end of a field, then pulled themselves to the center, leaving no incriminating footprints.  If one were to wear large stompers and tie a rope across the expanse of the alleged tracks, they could leave tracks at any distance needed.  Would a bigfoot really walk &#8220;straight over a two foot high shrub&#8221;, or just crash through it?  And notice how Mr. Miller states the tracks &#8220;are in a straight line, like he was walking a tight rope&#8221;&#8230;  This tale sounds like an actual encounter to me, though the tracks could have been faked with the rope tactic (not that anyone would actually do it &#8211; then again, some of those &#8220;crop circles&#8221; were surprisingly complex).  Perhaps the greatest reason I feel this story has something to it is of course the lack of motive; unless the witness has some grudge on scientists or something, I don&#8217;t see why he would do all this elaborate hoaxing.  I suppose he technically could have actually just seen a big hairy boxer, but then again we don&#8217;t really know what bigfoot is, do we?</p>
<p>DWA and mystery_man, I hate to disappoint you, but what you&#8217;re actually seeing is the reflection in an iridescent fog of some drunk boxing hobo in a monkey suit walking his pet mangy otter.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWA- That&#039;s the one! :) Can&#039;t you make out the sagittal crest and the fingers as well? Cryptidsrus, I don&#039;t think it was photoshopped. No way.  :)

Well, I&#039;d certainly have to agree that if you put it that way, and randomly chose a scientist, then they probably aren&#039;t very well versed in cryptozoology or don&#039;t take it particularly seriously. My point was mainly that there ARE those of us in scientific fields like myself who treat this subject with respect and consideration, and I think there are more like this than some people may think. But yeah, it hasn&#039;t caught on in the mainstream yet, and a lot of these scientists follow cryptozoology from the sidelines, unfortunately. Hopefully this will change.

For now, independent researchers like Bill Miller are the ones really doing the heavy lifting in cryptozoological field work and I support their operations wholeheartedly. A lot of organizations and researchers like this are adopting more and more legitimate scientific practices and this gives hope. The more results they end up producing, the more mainstream science is going to stand up and take notice, and the more all of those scientists who are closet cryptozoologists are going to be able to participate.

I&#039;ve got a lot of respect for guys like Mr. Miller and Mr. Steenburg willing to pursue this on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWA- That&#8217;s the one! <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Can&#8217;t you make out the sagittal crest and the fingers as well? Cryptidsrus, I don&#8217;t think it was photoshopped. No way.  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;d certainly have to agree that if you put it that way, and randomly chose a scientist, then they probably aren&#8217;t very well versed in cryptozoology or don&#8217;t take it particularly seriously. My point was mainly that there ARE those of us in scientific fields like myself who treat this subject with respect and consideration, and I think there are more like this than some people may think. But yeah, it hasn&#8217;t caught on in the mainstream yet, and a lot of these scientists follow cryptozoology from the sidelines, unfortunately. Hopefully this will change.</p>
<p>For now, independent researchers like Bill Miller are the ones really doing the heavy lifting in cryptozoological field work and I support their operations wholeheartedly. A lot of organizations and researchers like this are adopting more and more legitimate scientific practices and this gives hope. The more results they end up producing, the more mainstream science is going to stand up and take notice, and the more all of those scientists who are closet cryptozoologists are going to be able to participate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a lot of respect for guys like Mr. Miller and Mr. Steenburg willing to pursue this on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mystery_Man:

Good post.

Any signs of photoshopping???  &quot;Smile.&quot;</description>
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<p>Good post.</p>
<p>Any signs of photoshopping???  &#8220;Smile.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mystery_man:

Remember, I said &quot;chances are.&quot;  As in, a scientist selected at random is probably going to be.  Or else:  either well-funded expeditions would be looking, or scientists better get together and find out they all agree on this so we can look!  :-D

There are a LOT of shadows back there.  I think the one you&#039;re talking about is a juvenile; I&#039;m talking about the one that appears to be holding a weapon, possibly a crude bow.  Or maybe it&#039;s some kind of hair thingie, like you might use to fix up a ponytail or something.  But I&#039;m just speculating.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mystery_man:</p>
<p>Remember, I said &#8220;chances are.&#8221;  As in, a scientist selected at random is probably going to be.  Or else:  either well-funded expeditions would be looking, or scientists better get together and find out they all agree on this so we can look!  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are a LOT of shadows back there.  I think the one you&#8217;re talking about is a juvenile; I&#8217;m talking about the one that appears to be holding a weapon, possibly a crude bow.  Or maybe it&#8217;s some kind of hair thingie, like you might use to fix up a ponytail or something.  But I&#8217;m just speculating.  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWA- Oh I wouldn&#039;t say all scientists are ignorant on the topic, or even completely disinterested in it. I would be willing to bet that there are quite a few more scientists than you think that are curious about this field. The thing is, it sure doesn&#039;t pay the bills or pull in grant money though. Peers who ARE ignorant can also make it tough to make any serious attempt to pursue these creatures, as famously the case with Meldrum way back when. I commend these amateurs out there who go out with money from their own pocket and try to find what ultimately will be needed to turn things around- CONCRETE EVIDENCE. As long as they follow proper scientific protocols, they are doing a great service for the growing field of cryptozoology by not only finding this evidence, but also raising awareness and showing that this sort of research can be legitimate.

By the way, the sasquatch in that top picture is neither the one on the right OR the left. If you blow up the picture 200X, you&#039;ll see an obscure shadow back there in the trees. That&#039;s it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWA- Oh I wouldn&#8217;t say all scientists are ignorant on the topic, or even completely disinterested in it. I would be willing to bet that there are quite a few more scientists than you think that are curious about this field. The thing is, it sure doesn&#8217;t pay the bills or pull in grant money though. Peers who ARE ignorant can also make it tough to make any serious attempt to pursue these creatures, as famously the case with Meldrum way back when. I commend these amateurs out there who go out with money from their own pocket and try to find what ultimately will be needed to turn things around- CONCRETE EVIDENCE. As long as they follow proper scientific protocols, they are doing a great service for the growing field of cryptozoology by not only finding this evidence, but also raising awareness and showing that this sort of research can be legitimate.</p>
<p>By the way, the sasquatch in that top picture is neither the one on the right OR the left. If you blow up the picture 200X, you&#8217;ll see an obscure shadow back there in the trees. That&#8217;s it. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the photo at the top, is the sasquatch the one on the left, or the right?

I didn&#039;t know they held their arms like that.  Looks like he&#039;s in irons.

And I wouldn&#039;t say Steenburg is &quot;looking on.&quot;  He&#039;s looking AWAY.  (I might too.)

Hey.  I wanna know how you can be a FULL-TIME SASQUATCH HUNTER.  (Bet there&#039;s a catch.)  Maybe you can only do this in Canada.

&quot;Now Tom lives in British Columbia, where he feels he has a better chance of catching up with a Sasquatch and finding good evidence.&quot;

Hmmm.  I&#039;d move to Texas and join the TBRC.

All that having been said:

1.  Sounds like a classic encounter to me.

2.  Sounds like a pretty standard squatch description to me.  The same details, recurring over and over, each related in terms the witness understands, but very easy to compare and add up.

3.  The guy is a standard witness too.  Doesn&#039;t want to talk, but does, because he doesn&#039;t believe it exists, but well, he saw one.

4.  And it&#039;s pretty hard to swallow that every one of these adds up to a false positive.  It would be easier to accept that all wolverine reports are just well-fed fishers.

If I were a scientist, I&#039;d just want to look, and see how lies and hallucinations could be behaving like scientific data.  (Or how apparently mentally healthy people could be having hallucinations like this.)  But then, if I were a scientist, chances are I&#039;d be pretty much ignorant on this topic.  And it certainly is, as Steenburg says, human nature to laugh at things you are ignorant about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the photo at the top, is the sasquatch the one on the left, or the right?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know they held their arms like that.  Looks like he&#8217;s in irons.</p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t say Steenburg is &#8220;looking on.&#8221;  He&#8217;s looking AWAY.  (I might too.)</p>
<p>Hey.  I wanna know how you can be a FULL-TIME SASQUATCH HUNTER.  (Bet there&#8217;s a catch.)  Maybe you can only do this in Canada.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now Tom lives in British Columbia, where he feels he has a better chance of catching up with a Sasquatch and finding good evidence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm.  I&#8217;d move to Texas and join the TBRC.</p>
<p>All that having been said:</p>
<p>1.  Sounds like a classic encounter to me.</p>
<p>2.  Sounds like a pretty standard squatch description to me.  The same details, recurring over and over, each related in terms the witness understands, but very easy to compare and add up.</p>
<p>3.  The guy is a standard witness too.  Doesn&#8217;t want to talk, but does, because he doesn&#8217;t believe it exists, but well, he saw one.</p>
<p>4.  And it&#8217;s pretty hard to swallow that every one of these adds up to a false positive.  It would be easier to accept that all wolverine reports are just well-fed fishers.</p>
<p>If I were a scientist, I&#8217;d just want to look, and see how lies and hallucinations could be behaving like scientific data.  (Or how apparently mentally healthy people could be having hallucinations like this.)  But then, if I were a scientist, chances are I&#8217;d be pretty much ignorant on this topic.  And it certainly is, as Steenburg says, human nature to laugh at things you are ignorant about.</p>
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