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		<title>By: martinmystere</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinmystere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm solved not sure ;)

i am used with analyzing pictures ....and it seems that our friend likes &quot;bull frogs&quot; for dinner ....
by the way he wears no shirt or jeans ...seems to me he is naked with that frog or toad tied to his waist ...
take a look at this enhanced picture of that devilish looking guy ...:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8778/ehancement1xv2.jpg

he seems to be carrying something i hesitate between two things ...a fish ! or a baby
i d rather says a fish look more plausible for me :

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9669/ehancement2vj6.jpg

he seem to be carrying a bag to (right side of the picture) and as some kind of wood color thing stuffed on his genitals....

Looks to me like an  aborigen or something like that, this photo is not from bahia i guess the story that goes with the pic is not true ...

conclusion i think its some kind of an indigen with a very cool ritual mask hmmmm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm solved not sure <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i am used with analyzing pictures &#8230;.and it seems that our friend likes &#8220;bull frogs&#8221; for dinner &#8230;.<br />
by the way he wears no shirt or jeans &#8230;seems to me he is naked with that frog or toad tied to his waist &#8230;<br />
take a look at this enhanced picture of that devilish looking guy &#8230;:<br />
<a href="http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8778/ehancement1xv2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8778/ehancement1xv2.jpg</a></p>
<p>he seems to be carrying something i hesitate between two things &#8230;a fish ! or a baby<br />
i d rather says a fish look more plausible for me :</p>
<p><a href="http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9669/ehancement2vj6.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9669/ehancement2vj6.jpg</a></p>
<p>he seem to be carrying a bag to (right side of the picture) and as some kind of wood color thing stuffed on his genitals&#8230;.</p>
<p>Looks to me like an  aborigen or something like that, this photo is not from bahia i guess the story that goes with the pic is not true &#8230;</p>
<p>conclusion i think its some kind of an indigen with a very cool ritual mask hmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: tlalucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlalucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Mori&#039;s comments are very valuable; &lt;a title=&quot;his blog&quot; href=&quot;http://forgetomori.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his blog&lt;/a&gt; is also an excellent source of information. I entirely agree with him, that the photograph is typical of those taken in a &quot;manguezal&quot; on the coast of Brazil. I think this is generally agreed by the commentators. There was considerable discussion as to whether this was a person or a statue, and whether it was photoshopped or not photoshopped. Mori states that it is of a man with mud in his hair, and I am very happy to accept his opinion. It is also true that many poor people collect crabs in coastal swamps in Brazil, as Mori states. I am quite happy to agree that he has an excellent explanation, certainly covering 95% of the elements.

Even so, there are a couple of anomalies which still need to be cleared up. The man may collect crabs from the swamp, but there is no clear indication he was collecting crabs on the day the photo was taken. Poor people who go crab collecting in coastal swamps take a basket to carry the crabs away. This would normally be a roughly-made basket made from scrap wood and chicken wire (by chicken wire I mean the wire netting used to construct chicken houses or chicken coops). A fisherman&#039;s net or a shopping bag can also be used; the objective is to take the crabs out of the swamp whole and alive. But there is no sign of a basket in the photograph. In fact the man appears to be holding either a baby, or a doll, or a roll of cloth or rolled-up towel (another suggestion is that he is holding a dead spider monkey). None of the objects he appears to be holding combine with the crab-collecting theory. There is no way anybody in a swamp could roll live crabs into a cloth or towel.

Also, The photograph is carefully, almost artistically, composed, taken by a photographer who seems to be on a raised platform, or ladder, or the superstructure of a boat. It is very different from the photos Mori sent in, where there is little attempt at composition, and where the photographer is clearly on the same level as the people he is photographing.

One possibly relevant point nobody seems to have made is that the photo was submitted by &quot;Two-Cam McLaren&quot;. According to Google, the same person is linked to UFO photographs.

I have hesitated to prolong the already lengthy discussion of a photograph which does not deserve such attention. But I have noted that others are also not fully satisfied: &quot;I don&#039;t totally buy this explanation&quot;, &quot;This one is still a mystery, as far as I&#039;m concerned&quot; (Aug. 17); &quot;This picture just does not appear to be a local making a living or of a tourist out for a muddy roll&quot;  (Aug. 16).

I suggested in an &lt;a title=&quot;earlier post&quot; href=&quot;http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bahia-beast/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier post&lt;/a&gt; (Aug. 13, 1:06 a.m.) that this could be a publicity still for a Brazilian horror or mystery film, perhaps from the 1980s, taken by a professional photographer with professional equipment (Single Lens Reflex camera). I hope that Mori, who has conducted much valuable research into hoaxes and related phenomena, will be able to bring this image to the attention of a wide range of people in Brazil, in the hope that somebody will recognize it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mori&#8217;s comments are very valuable; <a title="his blog" href="http://forgetomori.com/" rel="nofollow">his blog</a> is also an excellent source of information. I entirely agree with him, that the photograph is typical of those taken in a &#8220;manguezal&#8221; on the coast of Brazil. I think this is generally agreed by the commentators. There was considerable discussion as to whether this was a person or a statue, and whether it was photoshopped or not photoshopped. Mori states that it is of a man with mud in his hair, and I am very happy to accept his opinion. It is also true that many poor people collect crabs in coastal swamps in Brazil, as Mori states. I am quite happy to agree that he has an excellent explanation, certainly covering 95% of the elements.</p>
<p>Even so, there are a couple of anomalies which still need to be cleared up. The man may collect crabs from the swamp, but there is no clear indication he was collecting crabs on the day the photo was taken. Poor people who go crab collecting in coastal swamps take a basket to carry the crabs away. This would normally be a roughly-made basket made from scrap wood and chicken wire (by chicken wire I mean the wire netting used to construct chicken houses or chicken coops). A fisherman&#8217;s net or a shopping bag can also be used; the objective is to take the crabs out of the swamp whole and alive. But there is no sign of a basket in the photograph. In fact the man appears to be holding either a baby, or a doll, or a roll of cloth or rolled-up towel (another suggestion is that he is holding a dead spider monkey). None of the objects he appears to be holding combine with the crab-collecting theory. There is no way anybody in a swamp could roll live crabs into a cloth or towel.</p>
<p>Also, The photograph is carefully, almost artistically, composed, taken by a photographer who seems to be on a raised platform, or ladder, or the superstructure of a boat. It is very different from the photos Mori sent in, where there is little attempt at composition, and where the photographer is clearly on the same level as the people he is photographing.</p>
<p>One possibly relevant point nobody seems to have made is that the photo was submitted by &#8220;Two-Cam McLaren&#8221;. According to Google, the same person is linked to UFO photographs.</p>
<p>I have hesitated to prolong the already lengthy discussion of a photograph which does not deserve such attention. But I have noted that others are also not fully satisfied: &#8220;I don&#8217;t totally buy this explanation&#8221;, &#8220;This one is still a mystery, as far as I&#8217;m concerned&#8221; (Aug. 17); &#8220;This picture just does not appear to be a local making a living or of a tourist out for a muddy roll&#8221;  (Aug. 16).</p>
<p>I suggested in an <a title="earlier post" href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bahia-beast/" rel="nofollow">earlier post</a> (Aug. 13, 1:06 a.m.) that this could be a publicity still for a Brazilian horror or mystery film, perhaps from the 1980s, taken by a professional photographer with professional equipment (Single Lens Reflex camera). I hope that Mori, who has conducted much valuable research into hoaxes and related phenomena, will be able to bring this image to the attention of a wide range of people in Brazil, in the hope that somebody will recognize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t totally buy this explanation, although it is a more plausible one than saying the subject of this photo is some kind of demon, monster, or cyptid. That being said, the head of the subject still strikes me as too odd to be a human. Either the low resolution of this image, combined with shadows and light, gave this person what looks to me to be a skull-like face and horns or the person is wearing a mask.

Don&#039;t call solved on this photo yet, but it is highly reasonable that it is just a person covered in mud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t totally buy this explanation, although it is a more plausible one than saying the subject of this photo is some kind of demon, monster, or cyptid. That being said, the head of the subject still strikes me as too odd to be a human. Either the low resolution of this image, combined with shadows and light, gave this person what looks to me to be a skull-like face and horns or the person is wearing a mask.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t call solved on this photo yet, but it is highly reasonable that it is just a person covered in mud.</p>
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		<title>By: mrdark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrdark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For once, I&#039;m on the side of the believers: this explanation just isn&#039;t 100% spot-on.

It doesn&#039;t explain the mask/face/head shape.

It doesn&#039;t explain the seemingly anguished or enraged look on the face, if that&#039;s his face.

It doesn&#039;t explain what it&#039;s cradling (dead spider monkey seems about accurate).

It doesn&#039;t explain the head/horns.  (We discounted the &#039;muddy hair&#039; theory quite some time ago.)

The story of it being a tourist covering themselves in mud or a local making a living digging for crabs make -less- sense than the original story of the teen being attacked.

This one is still a mystery, as far as I&#039;m concerned.  His &#039;man, I&#039;m certain this is the answer&#039; is nowhere near authoritative, and his completely ridiculous sanctimonious decrying of calling this &#039;poor man&#039; a &#039;beast&#039; shows that he isn&#039;t even familiar with what it is you (Loren and CM) do here, and why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once, I&#8217;m on the side of the believers: this explanation just isn&#8217;t 100% spot-on.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t explain the mask/face/head shape.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t explain the seemingly anguished or enraged look on the face, if that&#8217;s his face.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t explain what it&#8217;s cradling (dead spider monkey seems about accurate).</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t explain the head/horns.  (We discounted the &#8216;muddy hair&#8217; theory quite some time ago.)</p>
<p>The story of it being a tourist covering themselves in mud or a local making a living digging for crabs make -less- sense than the original story of the teen being attacked.</p>
<p>This one is still a mystery, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  His &#8216;man, I&#8217;m certain this is the answer&#8217; is nowhere near authoritative, and his completely ridiculous sanctimonious decrying of calling this &#8216;poor man&#8217; a &#8216;beast&#8217; shows that he isn&#8217;t even familiar with what it is you (Loren and CM) do here, and why.</p>
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		<title>By: richcap</title>
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		<dc:creator>richcap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taaa-Daaa!

next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taaa-Daaa!</p>
<p>next.</p>
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		<title>By: sausage1</title>
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		<dc:creator>sausage1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds reasonable to me.

It might also explain why the &#039;creature&#039; tried to cover the girl in mud. What would you do if you were there and another person waded in?


Hey, just a mo. Wasn&#039;t I right in a previous post? Isn&#039;t splashing someone entering the sea or a mud bath a kind of &#039;rite of passage,&#039;  or at least ritualistic, a sort of baptism?

Sometimes I just amaze myself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds reasonable to me.</p>
<p>It might also explain why the &#8216;creature&#8217; tried to cover the girl in mud. What would you do if you were there and another person waded in?</p>
<p>Hey, just a mo. Wasn&#8217;t I right in a previous post? Isn&#8217;t splashing someone entering the sea or a mud bath a kind of &#8216;rite of passage,&#8217;  or at least ritualistic, a sort of baptism?</p>
<p>Sometimes I just amaze myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many, many photographers making a living out of taking pictures that suggest that some sort of bad behaviour is afoot...you ever have a photograph taken that makes you look utterly and dangerously intoxicated, even though you&#039;re awake and stone sober?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many, many photographers making a living out of taking pictures that suggest that some sort of bad behaviour is afoot&#8230;you ever have a photograph taken that makes you look utterly and dangerously intoxicated, even though you&#8217;re awake and stone sober?</p>
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		<title>By: john5</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you are knee deep in mud you can bend at impossible angles. Mask or no I cannot believe that the horn-like appendages are hair wrapped up with mud. The points are too fine. Aside from the glowing eyes, that could be an effect from a mask, I can still see the limp body of a (spider) monkey in its arms. These points lead me to think a ritual of some kind is going on here, even if it is just a wash up before dining ritual!

This picture just does not appear to be a local making a living or of a tourist out for a muddy roll, although I do not doubt these events take place in the muddy flats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are knee deep in mud you can bend at impossible angles. Mask or no I cannot believe that the horn-like appendages are hair wrapped up with mud. The points are too fine. Aside from the glowing eyes, that could be an effect from a mask, I can still see the limp body of a (spider) monkey in its arms. These points lead me to think a ritual of some kind is going on here, even if it is just a wash up before dining ritual!</p>
<p>This picture just does not appear to be a local making a living or of a tourist out for a muddy roll, although I do not doubt these events take place in the muddy flats.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a thought I had this morning -- much has been made of the seemingly-impossible posture of the figure...you know, the one thing that no one mentioned is that it&#039;s entirely possible that the person fell backwards into the mud seconds after this photo was taken!

Thanks much to Mori for clarifying this picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought I had this morning &#8212; much has been made of the seemingly-impossible posture of the figure&#8230;you know, the one thing that no one mentioned is that it&#8217;s entirely possible that the person fell backwards into the mud seconds after this photo was taken!</p>
<p>Thanks much to Mori for clarifying this picture.</p>
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		<title>By: dharkheart</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Late Night Visitor is correct. When the photo is enlarged, it becomes evident that there is an alteration in the symmetry of the head: most likely a mask.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late Night Visitor is correct. When the photo is enlarged, it becomes evident that there is an alteration in the symmetry of the head: most likely a mask.</p>
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