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		<title>By: PynkSpyder</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>PynkSpyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My step-dad, who is a medicine man, has always said that Bigfoot is a good spirit.  The thing is that he's a messenger of bad things (the same role that an owl plays in our culture).  There's actually a Bigfoot that lived near his home in Wounded Knee, at Mouse Creek.  Anyway, we also had a ceremony during that time.  We were told that Bigfoot came as a warning. That the people had to change, or else bad things would happen to us.  The different messages are interesting.  I'd be interested to know what medicine man you go to, should you ever wander back into this article thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My step-dad, who is a medicine man, has always said that Bigfoot is a good spirit.  The thing is that he&#8217;s a messenger of bad things (the same role that an owl plays in our culture).  There&#8217;s actually a Bigfoot that lived near his home in Wounded Knee, at Mouse Creek.  Anyway, we also had a ceremony during that time.  We were told that Bigfoot came as a warning. That the people had to change, or else bad things would happen to us.  The different messages are interesting.  I&#8217;d be interested to know what medicine man you go to, should you ever wander back into this article thread.</p>
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		<title>By: rozz_b</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6037</link>
		<dc:creator>rozz_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WVBotanist:

Apology accepted... I knew you most likely didn't mean any harm or disrespect, and yeah it is sometimes hard to get the tone of words and context across on the internet. Its just when you live in the area where all this is going on, its hard to not get a little defensive once in awhile. Especially when all the "criticism" is coming from people who don't know the area or the people.

Anyway back to the point... anythings possible. When you first enter the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, its hard to imagine that a BF would be roaming around. Nothing but prairie and a little badlands. However when you actually reach Pine Ridge, more trees and vegetation emerge. Its the same with Porcupine. I know that the Chadron area is very forest-like. But you know there have been reports of BF in Porcupine. If you go to the BFRO website, there is an "offical" report from a family taken a few years ago. Supposedly there were hair samples and saliva samples. So if anyones interested you might wanna check that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WVBotanist:</p>
<p>Apology accepted&#8230; I knew you most likely didn&#8217;t mean any harm or disrespect, and yeah it is sometimes hard to get the tone of words and context across on the internet. Its just when you live in the area where all this is going on, its hard to not get a little defensive once in awhile. Especially when all the &#8220;criticism&#8221; is coming from people who don&#8217;t know the area or the people.</p>
<p>Anyway back to the point&#8230; anythings possible. When you first enter the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, its hard to imagine that a BF would be roaming around. Nothing but prairie and a little badlands. However when you actually reach Pine Ridge, more trees and vegetation emerge. Its the same with Porcupine. I know that the Chadron area is very forest-like. But you know there have been reports of BF in Porcupine. If you go to the BFRO website, there is an &#8220;offical&#8221; report from a family taken a few years ago. Supposedly there were hair samples and saliva samples. So if anyones interested you might wanna check that out.</p>
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		<title>By: cabochris</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6036</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with many other wild animals, find one and others may be close by. A breeding population of Bigfeet would require a family.  (Other fellow Foots).  Sure there could be a Rogue, but I would like to think Bigfoot is a more social creature. So if one Bigfoot at Pine Ridge was driven by wildfires, then it would be reasonable to think, perhaps some of his friends came with and hence the other possible multiple sightings? At Pine Ridge, perhaps the clan has gone home now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with many other wild animals, find one and others may be close by. A breeding population of Bigfeet would require a family.  (Other fellow Foots).  Sure there could be a Rogue, but I would like to think Bigfoot is a more social creature. So if one Bigfoot at Pine Ridge was driven by wildfires, then it would be reasonable to think, perhaps some of his friends came with and hence the other possible multiple sightings? At Pine Ridge, perhaps the clan has gone home now?</p>
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		<title>By: WVBotanist</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6035</link>
		<dc:creator>WVBotanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rozz_b

My sincerest apologies, regarding my inappropriate delivery.  I was inaccurate in assuming that what I had read as coming from the medicine man was not intended for the masses.  Thank you for correcting me.

I spoke out of concern regarding the label "dark spirit" - not to pre-empt nor in any way demean what the medicine man said - but to deflect a potential misreading of that for any readers here.  In that regard, my statement “Secondhand superstition is a nasty perversion of a misunderstood truth" was not intended to classify your statement, nor the medicine man's description, but as a warning (even to myself, no less, and perhaps mostly so)against attempting to apply such a label outside of its appropriate context.  I do not consider anything a superstition - for words can mean many things - until words are used to foster fear and confusion.  I did not mean to imply that was happening here, I meant to prevent that.

I am a scientist, by profession, and was born a Cherokee.  I fully embrace both the ability to measure and observe as well as the ability to stand on our Earth and know our place.  I mean no disrespect, and if I waxed too bitter and defended something that requires no defense, it was at least a good reminder to myself.</description>
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<p>My sincerest apologies, regarding my inappropriate delivery.  I was inaccurate in assuming that what I had read as coming from the medicine man was not intended for the masses.  Thank you for correcting me.</p>
<p>I spoke out of concern regarding the label &#8220;dark spirit&#8221; - not to pre-empt nor in any way demean what the medicine man said - but to deflect a potential misreading of that for any readers here.  In that regard, my statement “Secondhand superstition is a nasty perversion of a misunderstood truth&#8221; was not intended to classify your statement, nor the medicine man&#8217;s description, but as a warning (even to myself, no less, and perhaps mostly so)against attempting to apply such a label outside of its appropriate context.  I do not consider anything a superstition - for words can mean many things - until words are used to foster fear and confusion.  I did not mean to imply that was happening here, I meant to prevent that.</p>
<p>I am a scientist, by profession, and was born a Cherokee.  I fully embrace both the ability to measure and observe as well as the ability to stand on our Earth and know our place.  I mean no disrespect, and if I waxed too bitter and defended something that requires no defense, it was at least a good reminder to myself.</p>
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		<title>By: One Eyed Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>One Eyed Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I point out there have been more recent reports than the rumored shooting?

I for one appreciate the observations from those who know the place and the people, I try very hard to stay open to learning.

It was noted on an earlier thread that there are wildfires in that general area now. I would think a BF trying to get away from it's burning territory and continuously encountering human habitations would at least become curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I point out there have been more recent reports than the rumored shooting?</p>
<p>I for one appreciate the observations from those who know the place and the people, I try very hard to stay open to learning.</p>
<p>It was noted on an earlier thread that there are wildfires in that general area now. I would think a BF trying to get away from it&#8217;s burning territory and continuously encountering human habitations would at least become curious.</p>
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		<title>By: cabochris</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a Bigfoot body!  Lets say a hunter had the opportunity, nerve, skill and big enough gun to put-down such a creature.  Keep in mind the hunter would first have to get over the shock of seeing such an animal.  Then a decision would have to be made to shoot or not to?  After all most responsible hunters would want to 100% ID the target, before pulling the trigger!  It might look too human?  Or too scary?  And so on...

But lets say our hunter thought it was a bear and shot it.  (For the hunters sake I hope he/she used a big gun-375 H&#38;H or 416 Mag.  The average 30-06 might just make it mad?!)  Now the hunter makes their way and is standing over a 700+lb body!  Gee, now what?  Wonder if any of its buddies might seek revenge?

So the hunter would have to remember the spot and get some muscle for help.  5 or 6 hairless buddies show up and they manage to lug it into the back of a pick-up and drive to town, perhaps with huge arms and feet hanging out over the bed edge!

It would seem difficult to hide this large monster, starting to smell and decay.  Seems to me with all this excitement someone would spread the word- like wildfire!  Then the Feds/State would get involved.  I could just see this happening in my State, Washington.  If you could not hide the Bigfoot Body and somehow get it to cold storage right away, the Department of Wildlife would come and take it and perhaps arrest the hunter?  The police would get involved, to make sure no one was murdered.  Then would come the press and brand the hunter as a "Murderer"!

So, if a Bigfoot was really shot at Pine Ridge, I would think that someone knowing more, would have spilled the beans by now.  After all, It might have taken 4 to 6 men, just to load it up!  One of them could make history! Yet there is silence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a Bigfoot body!  Lets say a hunter had the opportunity, nerve, skill and big enough gun to put-down such a creature.  Keep in mind the hunter would first have to get over the shock of seeing such an animal.  Then a decision would have to be made to shoot or not to?  After all most responsible hunters would want to 100% ID the target, before pulling the trigger!  It might look too human?  Or too scary?  And so on&#8230;</p>
<p>But lets say our hunter thought it was a bear and shot it.  (For the hunters sake I hope he/she used a big gun-375 H&amp;H or 416 Mag.  The average 30-06 might just make it mad?!)  Now the hunter makes their way and is standing over a 700+lb body!  Gee, now what?  Wonder if any of its buddies might seek revenge?</p>
<p>So the hunter would have to remember the spot and get some muscle for help.  5 or 6 hairless buddies show up and they manage to lug it into the back of a pick-up and drive to town, perhaps with huge arms and feet hanging out over the bed edge!</p>
<p>It would seem difficult to hide this large monster, starting to smell and decay.  Seems to me with all this excitement someone would spread the word- like wildfire!  Then the Feds/State would get involved.  I could just see this happening in my State, Washington.  If you could not hide the Bigfoot Body and somehow get it to cold storage right away, the Department of Wildlife would come and take it and perhaps arrest the hunter?  The police would get involved, to make sure no one was murdered.  Then would come the press and brand the hunter as a &#8220;Murderer&#8221;!</p>
<p>So, if a Bigfoot was really shot at Pine Ridge, I would think that someone knowing more, would have spilled the beans by now.  After all, It might have taken 4 to 6 men, just to load it up!  One of them could make history! Yet there is silence?</p>
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		<title>By: harleyb</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6032</link>
		<dc:creator>harleyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, that one's really real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, that one&#8217;s really real.</p>
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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6011</link>
		<dc:creator>shumway10973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>harleyb, where does a 500 LB gorilla sit?  Where ever it wants.  I think big foot can do whatever it wants, as long as no one gets hurt.  Um, hey, wouldn't a big foot pounding on a trailer's walls leave dents? My great uncle said that he had a 55 gallon barrel (full of diesel) thrown against a tree and broke open by something with large human like footprints.  Literally, it looked as though the barrel was directly in its path.  So, why wasn't there any evidence of the trailer wall having been messed with.  I have been known to dent a trailer or two simply by leaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harleyb, where does a 500 LB gorilla sit?  Where ever it wants.  I think big foot can do whatever it wants, as long as no one gets hurt.  Um, hey, wouldn&#8217;t a big foot pounding on a trailer&#8217;s walls leave dents? My great uncle said that he had a 55 gallon barrel (full of diesel) thrown against a tree and broke open by something with large human like footprints.  Literally, it looked as though the barrel was directly in its path.  So, why wasn&#8217;t there any evidence of the trailer wall having been messed with.  I have been known to dent a trailer or two simply by leaning.</p>
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		<title>By: rozz_b</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6012</link>
		<dc:creator>rozz_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I wouldn't call it "secondhand superstition". See thats the deal with people today, they always catergorize Native peoples belief system as superstition, like what we believe in is somehow on a lower scale than non-natives. (Ex: "Secondhand superstition is a nasty perversion of a misunderstood truth".) Show a little respect and chill, what I said isn't supposed to be taken as correct, I am just telling from a POV of someone who actually lives and is involved in the area. Besides who really knows what "truth" is anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;secondhand superstition&#8221;. See thats the deal with people today, they always catergorize Native peoples belief system as superstition, like what we believe in is somehow on a lower scale than non-natives. (Ex: &#8220;Secondhand superstition is a nasty perversion of a misunderstood truth&#8221;.) Show a little respect and chill, what I said isn&#8217;t supposed to be taken as correct, I am just telling from a POV of someone who actually lives and is involved in the area. Besides who really knows what &#8220;truth&#8221; is anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: rozz_b</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/augpinerid/#comment-6013</link>
		<dc:creator>rozz_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, WVBotanist, I was the one who wrote that. And actually this man in particular did want to help "relay understanding to the masses", because this happening impacted everyone in the community, at least to anyone who was being bothered by the BF. First of all, not all indians believe in the "traditional ways". So, not everyone had to listen to what one medicine man had to say. Secondly, the more traditional policemen (not man) went to him for guidance on what to do, not for themselves, but for their people. Besides he did tell us and if it was one individual's case, then he never would have told us in the first place. And yes we trust him because he sort of acts a therapist if you will. Other than that you basically summed up the description of a medicine person's "occupation". And yes Bigfoot was a Lakota chief who died in the Massacre of Wounded Knee, so therefore a lot of places around there are named after Chief Bigfoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, WVBotanist, I was the one who wrote that. And actually this man in particular did want to help &#8220;relay understanding to the masses&#8221;, because this happening impacted everyone in the community, at least to anyone who was being bothered by the BF. First of all, not all indians believe in the &#8220;traditional ways&#8221;. So, not everyone had to listen to what one medicine man had to say. Secondly, the more traditional policemen (not man) went to him for guidance on what to do, not for themselves, but for their people. Besides he did tell us and if it was one individual&#8217;s case, then he never would have told us in the first place. And yes we trust him because he sort of acts a therapist if you will. Other than that you basically summed up the description of a medicine person&#8217;s &#8220;occupation&#8221;. And yes Bigfoot was a Lakota chief who died in the Massacre of Wounded Knee, so therefore a lot of places around there are named after Chief Bigfoot.</p>
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