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	<title>Comments on: Cougar Eats, Gator Attacks, and Hyena Kills Humans</title>
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		<title>By: imamonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>imamonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think all of you have good points and are correct to a certain degree. The fact is we coexist with all these animals, and  are bound to get attacked by them every now and then. Its nature. Humans and our ancestors have been getting attacked, killed, and eaten by animals for millions of years. I honestly don&#039;t think that animals are ever at fault. They are animals and aren&#039;t thinking that they are killing, just getting food or protecting themselves. Now I&#039;m not saying that its always the human&#039;s fault, it&#039;s not, but sometimes it is. Such as the school teacher vacationing in Africa, who walked right up to a completely wild female lion. Needless to say she was mauled, but she did live. I hope she learned a lesson. Or the grizzly man who &quot;lived with&quot; grizzly bears. Although it is very sad that he was eaten by &quot;his&quot; bears, he was completely at fault. All he was doing was letting wild bears get used to humans, which is not a good thing. When animals don&#039;t fear us, we get eaten. I think to coexist with wild animals we both need a healthy fear of each other.

After reading everyone&#039;s comments, I thought of something that I find interesting. First. I think that when an animal attacks a human, it should be relocated to a different area far from human populations. (although those are kinda hard to come by now). Now to what I find interesting. Why is is that when an animal kills a human they usually get killed, but when a human kills another person they get life in prison or 20 years on death row? Specially since animals kill for food or in defense, but humans usually kill out of malicious intent. Anyways, just thought that was kind of interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all of you have good points and are correct to a certain degree. The fact is we coexist with all these animals, and  are bound to get attacked by them every now and then. Its nature. Humans and our ancestors have been getting attacked, killed, and eaten by animals for millions of years. I honestly don&#8217;t think that animals are ever at fault. They are animals and aren&#8217;t thinking that they are killing, just getting food or protecting themselves. Now I&#8217;m not saying that its always the human&#8217;s fault, it&#8217;s not, but sometimes it is. Such as the school teacher vacationing in Africa, who walked right up to a completely wild female lion. Needless to say she was mauled, but she did live. I hope she learned a lesson. Or the grizzly man who &#8220;lived with&#8221; grizzly bears. Although it is very sad that he was eaten by &#8220;his&#8221; bears, he was completely at fault. All he was doing was letting wild bears get used to humans, which is not a good thing. When animals don&#8217;t fear us, we get eaten. I think to coexist with wild animals we both need a healthy fear of each other.</p>
<p>After reading everyone&#8217;s comments, I thought of something that I find interesting. First. I think that when an animal attacks a human, it should be relocated to a different area far from human populations. (although those are kinda hard to come by now). Now to what I find interesting. Why is is that when an animal kills a human they usually get killed, but when a human kills another person they get life in prison or 20 years on death row? Specially since animals kill for food or in defense, but humans usually kill out of malicious intent. Anyways, just thought that was kind of interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: maslo63</title>
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		<dc:creator>maslo63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cryptids: What I was reacting to was Maslo statement saying “if you fear being eaten—-(which you probably won’t) then stay indoors or in the city.” It just seemed a bit hardcore—although I understand his response. It just seemed he was saying that if one decides to go outside in nature that person must always account for the possibility of bieng attacked. And if that person is attacked, then it’s strictly their fault. I’m sorry, that is not true.

You got half of it right. If a person is to go outside I do believe they should account for the possibility of an attack, there is nothing wrong with being educated and prepared. Never did I say it was strictly their fault for the attack however. While in many cases it is the fault of man it certainly isn&#039;t true for every attack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cryptids: What I was reacting to was Maslo statement saying “if you fear being eaten—-(which you probably won’t) then stay indoors or in the city.” It just seemed a bit hardcore—although I understand his response. It just seemed he was saying that if one decides to go outside in nature that person must always account for the possibility of bieng attacked. And if that person is attacked, then it’s strictly their fault. I’m sorry, that is not true.</p>
<p>You got half of it right. If a person is to go outside I do believe they should account for the possibility of an attack, there is nothing wrong with being educated and prepared. Never did I say it was strictly their fault for the attack however. While in many cases it is the fault of man it certainly isn&#8217;t true for every attack.</p>
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		<title>By: Three Elks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Three Elks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most people today are not taught the way of the forest or the plains. They do not know how to be careful or what to watch for in the wild country. Even the most skilled can be caught unawares by a cougar or bear. But the first rule is always: never to put yourself in a place of obvious danger. I am very sorry for the families of the victims.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people today are not taught the way of the forest or the plains. They do not know how to be careful or what to watch for in the wild country. Even the most skilled can be caught unawares by a cougar or bear. But the first rule is always: never to put yourself in a place of obvious danger. I am very sorry for the families of the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: TaishaMcGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaishaMcGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YAY SAM!!!!

Very well put.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY SAM!!!!</p>
<p>Very well put.</p>
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		<title>By: samspotter</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/attacks-6-08/comment-page-1/#comment-44677</link>
		<dc:creator>samspotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been watching this conversation and I must say it&#039;s made me think alot about this type of situation.  Cryptidsrus, I disagreed with you until your most recent comment, which I mostly agree with.  The only thing I&#039;ll argue with is your statement that some animal attacks are completely unprovoked.  I have never heard of an instance in which a cougar leaps out and attakcs someone on the road or in their backyard (unless the road winds through a cougar habitat or the backyard is the wild).  It just doesn&#039;t happen.  The human might accidentally wander through a wild animal&#039;s nest, and this is why we have to be really really careful.  Of course, this does not undermine the tragedy of the whole situation.  It&#039;s EXTREMELY terrible when something like this happens--I can&#039;t even imagine the suffering that these people and their families go through.  It&#039;s difficult for me to blame the victim when I wasn&#039;t there at the time.
What I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s neither a responsible nor a permanent solution to kill the animal after the fact, or to try to drive its kind out of the area.  Admittedly, if this happened to me I would probably be so angry that I&#039;d want the animal dead.  And yes, as humans in the modern age, it is our nature to expand and take territory for ourselves.  It is also our natural instinct to try to kill the animals that hurt us.  But also, as thinking humans, it is our responsibility to recognize the fact that we share this planet with a number of other species who can&#039;t intelligently avoid us as we can them.  We shouldn&#039;t just keep expanding and expanding, and keep relocating the native animals to other habitats, until there&#039;s no room left for them.

Great site, great argument--I&#039;m off for now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been watching this conversation and I must say it&#8217;s made me think alot about this type of situation.  Cryptidsrus, I disagreed with you until your most recent comment, which I mostly agree with.  The only thing I&#8217;ll argue with is your statement that some animal attacks are completely unprovoked.  I have never heard of an instance in which a cougar leaps out and attakcs someone on the road or in their backyard (unless the road winds through a cougar habitat or the backyard is the wild).  It just doesn&#8217;t happen.  The human might accidentally wander through a wild animal&#8217;s nest, and this is why we have to be really really careful.  Of course, this does not undermine the tragedy of the whole situation.  It&#8217;s EXTREMELY terrible when something like this happens&#8211;I can&#8217;t even imagine the suffering that these people and their families go through.  It&#8217;s difficult for me to blame the victim when I wasn&#8217;t there at the time.<br />
What I&#8217;m saying is that it&#8217;s neither a responsible nor a permanent solution to kill the animal after the fact, or to try to drive its kind out of the area.  Admittedly, if this happened to me I would probably be so angry that I&#8217;d want the animal dead.  And yes, as humans in the modern age, it is our nature to expand and take territory for ourselves.  It is also our natural instinct to try to kill the animals that hurt us.  But also, as thinking humans, it is our responsibility to recognize the fact that we share this planet with a number of other species who can&#8217;t intelligently avoid us as we can them.  We shouldn&#8217;t just keep expanding and expanding, and keep relocating the native animals to other habitats, until there&#8217;s no room left for them.</p>
<p>Great site, great argument&#8211;I&#8217;m off for now.</p>
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		<title>By: TaishaMcGee</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/attacks-6-08/comment-page-1/#comment-44676</link>
		<dc:creator>TaishaMcGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, we ARE their natural prey. Just because we don&#039;t want to be doesn&#039;t mean we aren&#039;t.

Second, there is only so much human beings can do to prevent nature from being natural. We can live in cities and never venture into woodlands or deserts or swamps, but it won&#039;t matter, the animals will migrate into our habitat just like we (admittedly, more abruptly) migrate into theirs.

It&#039;s no one&#039;s fault. It&#039;s life and death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, we ARE their natural prey. Just because we don&#8217;t want to be doesn&#8217;t mean we aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Second, there is only so much human beings can do to prevent nature from being natural. We can live in cities and never venture into woodlands or deserts or swamps, but it won&#8217;t matter, the animals will migrate into our habitat just like we (admittedly, more abruptly) migrate into theirs.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no one&#8217;s fault. It&#8217;s life and death.</p>
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		<title>By: cryptidsrus</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/attacks-6-08/comment-page-1/#comment-44675</link>
		<dc:creator>cryptidsrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To clarify:

I do understand that some animal attacks are the result of human carelessness or stupidity; I&#039;m not saying that that does not happen. Kittenz also makes good points about human intrusion into animal habitats---I&#039;m not for that and understand that sometimes things &quot;happen&quot; as a result.

What I was reacting to was Maslo statement saying &quot;if you fear being eaten----(which you probably won&#039;t) then stay indoors or in the city.&quot; It just seemed a bit hardcore---although I understand his response. It just seemed he was saying that if one decides to go outside in nature that person must always account for the possibility of bieng attacked. And if that person is attacked, then it&#039;s strictly their fault. I&#039;m sorry, that is not true.

While there is a risk, some people are simply minding their own business and staying out of the way of animals. Look to the examples I talked about in my previous post. And Sergio, I agree with you. This is not about provoked attacks; this is about people minding their own business---unprovoked attacks. Andrew Minnesota also makes good points. This is a case of people being in the wrong place and wrong time. I was just reacting to what I considered to be a lack of compassion &quot;those filthy, selfish humans always provoke this&quot; attitude on the part of a particular poster. If that was not the poster&#039;s actual attitude, then I apologize.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify:</p>
<p>I do understand that some animal attacks are the result of human carelessness or stupidity; I&#8217;m not saying that that does not happen. Kittenz also makes good points about human intrusion into animal habitats&#8212;I&#8217;m not for that and understand that sometimes things &#8220;happen&#8221; as a result.</p>
<p>What I was reacting to was Maslo statement saying &#8220;if you fear being eaten&#8212;-(which you probably won&#8217;t) then stay indoors or in the city.&#8221; It just seemed a bit hardcore&#8212;although I understand his response. It just seemed he was saying that if one decides to go outside in nature that person must always account for the possibility of bieng attacked. And if that person is attacked, then it&#8217;s strictly their fault. I&#8217;m sorry, that is not true.</p>
<p>While there is a risk, some people are simply minding their own business and staying out of the way of animals. Look to the examples I talked about in my previous post. And Sergio, I agree with you. This is not about provoked attacks; this is about people minding their own business&#8212;unprovoked attacks. Andrew Minnesota also makes good points. This is a case of people being in the wrong place and wrong time. I was just reacting to what I considered to be a lack of compassion &#8220;those filthy, selfish humans always provoke this&#8221; attitude on the part of a particular poster. If that was not the poster&#8217;s actual attitude, then I apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: pgb7112000</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/attacks-6-08/comment-page-1/#comment-44674</link>
		<dc:creator>pgb7112000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people have to realize that if you present a hungry animal with an opportunity for an easy meal, they will take it.  they act on instinct, there is no premeditation.  that is why it is sad to see these animals hunted down after such attacks.

our logic is to stop these animals from becoming &#039;man - eaters&#039;; so we run into the forest (cougars) or ocean (sharks) or rivers (alligators) to retrieve these vicious beasts for the safety of our 7 billion strong population.  if only we applied this same reasoning to those animals that do premeditate the killing of humans  - other humans.

we also have to realize that with overfishing, overhunting, and overpopulation by humans, that there is less prey species for these animals, which in turn leads them back to us, and there are plenty of us around.

basically, we can&#039;t treat every cougar attack as a crisis.  there are 300M people in the U.S.  Cougar populations don&#039;t even come close to that amount.

just think...in the time it took me to write this little essay, probably a dozen or so people were killed by other people across our tiny blue planet.  where are those articles?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people have to realize that if you present a hungry animal with an opportunity for an easy meal, they will take it.  they act on instinct, there is no premeditation.  that is why it is sad to see these animals hunted down after such attacks.</p>
<p>our logic is to stop these animals from becoming &#8216;man &#8211; eaters&#8217;; so we run into the forest (cougars) or ocean (sharks) or rivers (alligators) to retrieve these vicious beasts for the safety of our 7 billion strong population.  if only we applied this same reasoning to those animals that do premeditate the killing of humans  &#8211; other humans.</p>
<p>we also have to realize that with overfishing, overhunting, and overpopulation by humans, that there is less prey species for these animals, which in turn leads them back to us, and there are plenty of us around.</p>
<p>basically, we can&#8217;t treat every cougar attack as a crisis.  there are 300M people in the U.S.  Cougar populations don&#8217;t even come close to that amount.</p>
<p>just think&#8230;in the time it took me to write this little essay, probably a dozen or so people were killed by other people across our tiny blue planet.  where are those articles?</p>
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		<title>By: Rapscallion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rapscallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and by the way, unless you subsist yourselves entirely on free ranging vegetables and animals, and live in complete harmony with nature, your supporting the same &quot;expansion&quot; of human territory you so vehemently espouse to hate. And i swear if anyone claims they are doing such, they must be beaten with the sillystick. Your on the internet, it runs on power, right? fueled by what? sunshine and farts? your munching your chips or carrots while you read right? grown and cooked on land once occupied by animals that have long since been displaced. Im not saying its right, nor am i saying we NEED to expand, but i am saying it is what it is, learn to deal with it, or find a solution that doesnt involve de-evolution of humans as an industrious species.
My my, arent i opinionated today.
Rap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by the way, unless you subsist yourselves entirely on free ranging vegetables and animals, and live in complete harmony with nature, your supporting the same &#8220;expansion&#8221; of human territory you so vehemently espouse to hate. And i swear if anyone claims they are doing such, they must be beaten with the sillystick. Your on the internet, it runs on power, right? fueled by what? sunshine and farts? your munching your chips or carrots while you read right? grown and cooked on land once occupied by animals that have long since been displaced. Im not saying its right, nor am i saying we NEED to expand, but i am saying it is what it is, learn to deal with it, or find a solution that doesnt involve de-evolution of humans as an industrious species.<br />
My my, arent i opinionated today.<br />
Rap</p>
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		<title>By: Rapscallion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rapscallion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, where to begin.

 We all know, from a young age instinctually that certain things can be dangerous. As we grow we add more and more things to our &quot;catalogue&quot; of possibly dangerous things. Yet we venture into areas where predatory or dangerous animals habitate. Why? Because we are human, thats simply what we do. Asking someone to live in fear becuase they choose to co-habitate with potential injurious animals is simply silly. Sure, accidents happen, sure, occasionally a predatory animal actively stalks and kills a human. This is life folks. It doesnt MATTER who is at fault, it never has. What matters is how you deal with it. I&#039;ve been on the recieving end of domestic dog bites, and wild boar chases. Neither is fun, nor was either expected. But at NO point did i say to myself, &quot;self, your in thier terf now, they have a right to do you bodily harm&quot;. This turf war argument about animals and man is pure distraction. We have existed in thier lands since our inception, the trick is finding a balance somewhere so we may mitigate the threat of the animals, and not place undue stress on them. As far as the argument i read previously that we somehow &quot;compete&quot; with animals for thier food sources is pure bunk. Ive never chased a grizzly off his kill so that i may nibble the tender bits of his hard earned elk. Nor have i ever run a whitetail out of my yard because he is eating MY grass, which goes lovely in a salad. The problem is simply proximity. We get in thier way and they will act or react however they deem appropriate. As far as predatory hunting and killing of humans? Absolutely it happens, and the offending animal should be excised from any area that has frequent human visitation, pure and simple. If it cant be relocated, then it should be eradicated. We will never &quot;teach&quot; nature to not be well.... natural. So we are left with few options. Deal with the facts folks, we humans are here, we are numerous bossy smelly unpredictable creatures ourselves, sure, but we are here, and we are searching for the same thing all other things on this planet are, safety, happiness, and the chance to grow our family. You wont ever stop the human race as a whole from advancing itself into the most remote of places. And claiming its not right doesnt matter, it is what it is, right or not. Rather than saying &quot;animals have a right, its your fauly, blah blah blah&quot; try saying &quot;how can i, personally, assure that both species involved get through this with as little impact to thier daily lives as possible.
Remember, the only reason cougers and bears dont run the joint is thier lack of a thinking reasoning human mind. Give them that, and im quite certain they wont be asking how they can minimize pain for our species, rather they would be asking if we taste better par-boiled or grilled. We are a destructive species, no question. But we are also the only species capable of producing an answer.
Rap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, where to begin.</p>
<p> We all know, from a young age instinctually that certain things can be dangerous. As we grow we add more and more things to our &#8220;catalogue&#8221; of possibly dangerous things. Yet we venture into areas where predatory or dangerous animals habitate. Why? Because we are human, thats simply what we do. Asking someone to live in fear becuase they choose to co-habitate with potential injurious animals is simply silly. Sure, accidents happen, sure, occasionally a predatory animal actively stalks and kills a human. This is life folks. It doesnt MATTER who is at fault, it never has. What matters is how you deal with it. I&#8217;ve been on the recieving end of domestic dog bites, and wild boar chases. Neither is fun, nor was either expected. But at NO point did i say to myself, &#8220;self, your in thier terf now, they have a right to do you bodily harm&#8221;. This turf war argument about animals and man is pure distraction. We have existed in thier lands since our inception, the trick is finding a balance somewhere so we may mitigate the threat of the animals, and not place undue stress on them. As far as the argument i read previously that we somehow &#8220;compete&#8221; with animals for thier food sources is pure bunk. Ive never chased a grizzly off his kill so that i may nibble the tender bits of his hard earned elk. Nor have i ever run a whitetail out of my yard because he is eating MY grass, which goes lovely in a salad. The problem is simply proximity. We get in thier way and they will act or react however they deem appropriate. As far as predatory hunting and killing of humans? Absolutely it happens, and the offending animal should be excised from any area that has frequent human visitation, pure and simple. If it cant be relocated, then it should be eradicated. We will never &#8220;teach&#8221; nature to not be well&#8230;. natural. So we are left with few options. Deal with the facts folks, we humans are here, we are numerous bossy smelly unpredictable creatures ourselves, sure, but we are here, and we are searching for the same thing all other things on this planet are, safety, happiness, and the chance to grow our family. You wont ever stop the human race as a whole from advancing itself into the most remote of places. And claiming its not right doesnt matter, it is what it is, right or not. Rather than saying &#8220;animals have a right, its your fauly, blah blah blah&#8221; try saying &#8220;how can i, personally, assure that both species involved get through this with as little impact to thier daily lives as possible.<br />
Remember, the only reason cougers and bears dont run the joint is thier lack of a thinking reasoning human mind. Give them that, and im quite certain they wont be asking how they can minimize pain for our species, rather they would be asking if we taste better par-boiled or grilled. We are a destructive species, no question. But we are also the only species capable of producing an answer.<br />
Rap</p>
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