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		<title>By: Alton Higgins</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/an-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-11145</link>
		<dc:creator>Alton Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief.

Loren is a writer. He employed a common &lt;a href=&quot;http://rhetoric.byu.edu/figures/A/anacoenosis.htm&quot;&gt;rhetorical device&lt;/a&gt;, asking a question as a method of beginning a discourse. That’s how I understood his initial post regarding the repeated use of an apparently abhorrent appellation. It was not a personal attack.

Loren questioned the appropriateness of the term, and he questioned the validity of its application to the P/G sasquatch, as did many others. He did not accuse anyone of being a racist, even suggesting the possibility that M.K. Davis was unaware of the history of the use of the term as a racial epithet. Those who assert otherwise have either accepted the negative interpretations of others without checking out the facts for themselves, or they have another agenda.

Although I do not think it was appropriate for Loren to attach any expectations to his apology, he should not have been pressured into giving an apology in the first place. Davis, like anyone else, should be held accountable for his ill-timed and ill-considered comments.

As for the seemingly outrageous claims about the nature of the P/G sasquatch, I’m afraid I foresee nothing positive coming from this affair for M.K. Davis, a person who has been nothing but professional in his conduct with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief.</p>
<p>Loren is a writer. He employed a common <a href="http://rhetoric.byu.edu/figures/A/anacoenosis.htm">rhetorical device</a>, asking a question as a method of beginning a discourse. That’s how I understood his initial post regarding the repeated use of an apparently abhorrent appellation. It was not a personal attack.</p>
<p>Loren questioned the appropriateness of the term, and he questioned the validity of its application to the P/G sasquatch, as did many others. He did not accuse anyone of being a racist, even suggesting the possibility that M.K. Davis was unaware of the history of the use of the term as a racial epithet. Those who assert otherwise have either accepted the negative interpretations of others without checking out the facts for themselves, or they have another agenda.</p>
<p>Although I do not think it was appropriate for Loren to attach any expectations to his apology, he should not have been pressured into giving an apology in the first place. Davis, like anyone else, should be held accountable for his ill-timed and ill-considered comments.</p>
<p>As for the seemingly outrageous claims about the nature of the P/G sasquatch, I’m afraid I foresee nothing positive coming from this affair for M.K. Davis, a person who has been nothing but professional in his conduct with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line in this whole thing is that M.K. Davis&#039;s new film is benefiting from a tremendous amount of publicity because of the &quot;feud&quot; with Loren, who is a recognized master in the field of Cryptozology, especially when it comes to Bigfoot. As I see it, M.K. Davis should heap praise on Loren for all the free publicity. Hey, Mr. Davis, how about crossing Loren&#039;s palm with a little cash for the great PR. It seems fitting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line in this whole thing is that M.K. Davis&#8217;s new film is benefiting from a tremendous amount of publicity because of the &#8220;feud&#8221; with Loren, who is a recognized master in the field of Cryptozology, especially when it comes to Bigfoot. As I see it, M.K. Davis should heap praise on Loren for all the free publicity. Hey, Mr. Davis, how about crossing Loren&#8217;s palm with a little cash for the great PR. It seems fitting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loren Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duly noted.  Edited.  Changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duly noted.  Edited.  Changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarfe</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/an-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-11142</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren, the only thing you&#039;d have to apologize for is the incindeary title of the controversial post (which, if people read the actual post would see was not your position). There is no reason to apologize for asking questions and calling people on lack of evidence / potentially offensive terminology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren, the only thing you&#8217;d have to apologize for is the incindeary title of the controversial post (which, if people read the actual post would see was not your position). There is no reason to apologize for asking questions and calling people on lack of evidence / potentially offensive terminology</p>
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		<title>By: kittenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Loren I think that you SHOULD ask tough questions. You should not be held responsible for how other people react to information that you have printed. How can you know whether someone will make inappropriate comments in response to a post? You did not incite those comments.

Perhaps at some point the term &quot;Digger Indian&quot; was considered correct and inoffensive, but it is now recogonized as a racial (or cultural) epithet and it should not be used. It was not out of line for you to point that out; on the contrary it needed to be pointed out. Too often people use terms that they have heard without realizing that those seemingly innocuous terms may be hurtful and denigrating to some people.

If we can discuss the propriety or impropriety of using terms such as Sasquatches as opposed to Sasquatch as a plural, then surely we can address improprieties such as unintentional ethnic slurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Loren I think that you SHOULD ask tough questions. You should not be held responsible for how other people react to information that you have printed. How can you know whether someone will make inappropriate comments in response to a post? You did not incite those comments.</p>
<p>Perhaps at some point the term &#8220;Digger Indian&#8221; was considered correct and inoffensive, but it is now recogonized as a racial (or cultural) epithet and it should not be used. It was not out of line for you to point that out; on the contrary it needed to be pointed out. Too often people use terms that they have heard without realizing that those seemingly innocuous terms may be hurtful and denigrating to some people.</p>
<p>If we can discuss the propriety or impropriety of using terms such as Sasquatches as opposed to Sasquatch as a plural, then surely we can address improprieties such as unintentional ethnic slurs.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one am glad that these tough questions were asked. Indeed, to make the claims that MK Davis made and then not follow through with any sort of evidence, well he certainly must have expected some sort of strong reaction. The fact that he is someone with some clout in the field makes this especially true. I do not see anything that was asked of him that was unreasonable or wholly out of line. I do not agree with any personal attacks against the man, but some of us demand answers that make sense. I don&#039;t see anything wrong with questioning the integrity of new theories or claims, especially those of such an outlandish or far fetched nature. This is how we learn, how we get to the bottom of things, and search for the truth. If the theory is sound, the evidence will fall into place, there&#039;s no need to hide or obfuscate one&#039;s as has been done with MK Davis&#039; alleged findings. I for one am not going to just sit back and take every new photo or outstanding claim at face value and I think perhaps MK Davis would have been aware that a lot of people feel the same way. It&#039;s scary how the impersonal nature of the net can make people very belligerent and hurl insults, and I feel that is uncalled for. But as far as asking the tough questions? I say keep up the good work, Loren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one am glad that these tough questions were asked. Indeed, to make the claims that MK Davis made and then not follow through with any sort of evidence, well he certainly must have expected some sort of strong reaction. The fact that he is someone with some clout in the field makes this especially true. I do not see anything that was asked of him that was unreasonable or wholly out of line. I do not agree with any personal attacks against the man, but some of us demand answers that make sense. I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with questioning the integrity of new theories or claims, especially those of such an outlandish or far fetched nature. This is how we learn, how we get to the bottom of things, and search for the truth. If the theory is sound, the evidence will fall into place, there&#8217;s no need to hide or obfuscate one&#8217;s as has been done with MK Davis&#8217; alleged findings. I for one am not going to just sit back and take every new photo or outstanding claim at face value and I think perhaps MK Davis would have been aware that a lot of people feel the same way. It&#8217;s scary how the impersonal nature of the net can make people very belligerent and hurl insults, and I feel that is uncalled for. But as far as asking the tough questions? I say keep up the good work, Loren.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Coleman,

After reading your comments, I fail to see any need for an apology.  I may have missed something, but in my reading I have not made note of you calling anyone a &quot;racist&quot;.

Was your apology driven more by a threat from a greedy would-be mega film producer and his hoaxing, mis-representing buddy?  You know, the one that publicly calls you a liar and a thief on his message board?

You may have sparked some lively debate over M.K.&#039;s comment, but where did you call anyone any names?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Coleman,</p>
<p>After reading your comments, I fail to see any need for an apology.  I may have missed something, but in my reading I have not made note of you calling anyone a &#8220;racist&#8221;.</p>
<p>Was your apology driven more by a threat from a greedy would-be mega film producer and his hoaxing, mis-representing buddy?  You know, the one that publicly calls you a liar and a thief on his message board?</p>
<p>You may have sparked some lively debate over M.K.&#8217;s comment, but where did you call anyone any names?</p>
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		<title>By: drypondscout</title>
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		<dc:creator>drypondscout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 07:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent posting Mr. Coleman, best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent posting Mr. Coleman, best regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Megatherium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megatherium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 06:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loren:
I think I’m coming from a unique position with my feedback here. I haven’t the foggiest idea with what it is you are referring to in relationship to M.K. Davis, his press release, research, and comments or your response to them - save what is briefly outlined here - because I didn’t read the blog that you referenced in this post.  I almost decided to go ahead and do so out of curiosity and to get more information – but then I thought I’d perform a subjective, psychological experiment to see what my impression was here of your apology without having that background information and just perhaps – embedded bias.

I’m going to agree with all previous posters here that no apology was needed on your part – but for a different reason.  I don’t think an apology calls for a defense of one’s position when it’s clear from your post that you felt your actions were justified on nearly all accounts.  Besides that, in my opinion defending your position at such great length as you did here takes the wind out of the sails of the apology.   It’s the old “I’m sorry…” with the last minute “but” jab that we all hate to hear when the apology is aimed our direction.  The hatchet is never truly buried.  Indeed, the post ended with a challenge for a return apology!   It’s “Crypto Apology Smack Down!”  I think most of our mother’s taught us that an apology is offered because a wrong has been recognized – not because we expect an apology in return.  Yes, it’s great to receive one – particularly when you feel it’s deserved – whether it’s aimed at you personally or someone else.  But should it be the catalyst for the original action?

History is rife with people being crucified for sticking to their guns and saying what they believe.  History also bears out just as often society would have been better served if we listened to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loren:<br />
I think I’m coming from a unique position with my feedback here. I haven’t the foggiest idea with what it is you are referring to in relationship to M.K. Davis, his press release, research, and comments or your response to them &#8211; save what is briefly outlined here &#8211; because I didn’t read the blog that you referenced in this post.  I almost decided to go ahead and do so out of curiosity and to get more information – but then I thought I’d perform a subjective, psychological experiment to see what my impression was here of your apology without having that background information and just perhaps – embedded bias.</p>
<p>I’m going to agree with all previous posters here that no apology was needed on your part – but for a different reason.  I don’t think an apology calls for a defense of one’s position when it’s clear from your post that you felt your actions were justified on nearly all accounts.  Besides that, in my opinion defending your position at such great length as you did here takes the wind out of the sails of the apology.   It’s the old “I’m sorry…” with the last minute “but” jab that we all hate to hear when the apology is aimed our direction.  The hatchet is never truly buried.  Indeed, the post ended with a challenge for a return apology!   It’s “Crypto Apology Smack Down!”  I think most of our mother’s taught us that an apology is offered because a wrong has been recognized – not because we expect an apology in return.  Yes, it’s great to receive one – particularly when you feel it’s deserved – whether it’s aimed at you personally or someone else.  But should it be the catalyst for the original action?</p>
<p>History is rife with people being crucified for sticking to their guns and saying what they believe.  History also bears out just as often society would have been better served if we listened to them.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a decent man Loren even if I don&#039;t always agree with you. That was a very nice entry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a decent man Loren even if I don&#8217;t always agree with you. That was a very nice entry.</p>
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