Comments on: Alleged 1924 Ropen Footage?

By: jdwhitcomb

jdwhitcomb — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:24:16 +0000

The so-called “David Woetzel” that put up this video on YouTube is not the David Woetzel who explored on Umboi Island, searching for ropens. Whoever put up the video refused to communicate with the real Woetzel and has now been kicked out of the YouTube community. The reason was probably related to impersonating the real D.W.

It seems questionable that the person is actually a Creationist. He is not one of us who have traveled to Papua New Guinea, searching for living pterosaurs. The hoax was, apparently, not just of a video but of a name. As such, his words and actions cannot reasonably be used to discredit those who’ve had no real association with him.

By: gguessman

gguessman — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:43:15 +0000

This looks like a sea bird. It makes a good pseudo pterosaurs, but then again many water birds do.

By: Wisemen

Wisemen — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:25:08 +0000

There comes a time when you have to ask yourself is it good or bad when the cryptid (ropen) is identified by bad publicity. If the animals do exist the vids keep it from being discovered. They are so badly made who would even believe it.

By: eireman

eireman — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:29:26 +0000

I agree with the Frigate Bird theory. I live just off of a saltwater lagoon near San Juan and those things are always flying overhead. As for the “footage.” It’s so obviously rendered in something as cheap as Microsoft Moviemaker, which comes installed on pretty much everybody’s computer these days. You tube is a waste of time. If I want a laugh, I will watch some of the postings but it’s not a forum for scientific evidence.

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:35:01 +0000

Oh man, This sort of stuff is exactly like the Haiti UFO videos that we ripped apart on ufomystic. Commenters complained that we shouldn't give the hoax videos any attention, but I think it's fun to see how well they were done. We've reached the age when ANY video or still pictures of anything anomalous has been rendered worthless.

By: Doug

Doug — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:57:11 +0000

Once again, if it is on youtube, viewer beware.

By: Bob K.

Bob K. — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:39:02 +0000

Agree with Rillo777. Creationist (which I am) or not, I don’t see this film (on the face of it anyway) as anything special. Until you can provide some reasonable proof that a film is genuine or not-especially when appealing to something filmed in 1924-it means nothing. ‘PG 1967′ has been subjected to almost endless scrutiny and study. If those who put this film forward as real are serious about its importance, then they should put out some time and $$$ and give it the study and analysis it deserves, and issue reports from the same.

By: robot zombie monkey

robot zombie monkey — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:40:40 +0000

I can verify that the two videos are indeed the same. I chucked them both into Premier and they match exactly, save for the drawn on tail. I might be posting the results on youtube later today. (I’m a “she”, BTW.)

By: Sharmz

Sharmz — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:41:58 +0000

I did saw this video first on a creationist website before asking Loren about it. My first impression was that it was a footage of a frigate bird then modified to give it a pterosaur-type ‘diamond’ tail. Yes, I think it’s a fake.

By: hlw

hlw — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 16:34:56 +0000

Loren
I don’t know how you can feel forgiving about this type of crap any day. After spending the many years you have in the field, and being immersed in real investigative work, having to deal with the constant stream of this type of stuff must be very frustrating. Kudos to you for taking the time to be fair and represent all sides of an issue, even when you know this is a waste of time. Hopefully one of these days one of these sights will come up with some real evidence. Until then thanks for all your time filtering this garbage in search of the real thing.
thanks