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	<title>Comments on: Police Chief Confirms Pine Ridge Bigfoot Sightings</title>
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		<title>By: sloth</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6534</link>
		<dc:creator>sloth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found the site, I live just south of the Pine Ridge reservation. After reading the above stories I recall a man at the Prairie Winds Casino Halloween party 2 years ago that was on stilts, wore a top hat, a suit jacket and had his face painted pretty pale. I'd say dressed in this costume he was probably over 9 foot tall.

Guy imitating the telephone man above. Or is he the telephone man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found the site, I live just south of the Pine Ridge reservation. After reading the above stories I recall a man at the Prairie Winds Casino Halloween party 2 years ago that was on stilts, wore a top hat, a suit jacket and had his face painted pretty pale. I&#8217;d say dressed in this costume he was probably over 9 foot tall.</p>
<p>Guy imitating the telephone man above. Or is he the telephone man?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy_Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy_Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but the East-Indian Monkey Man, Springheeled Jack and the Mad Gasser of Mattoon all have a history of attacking (with the gasser, peeping as the Pine Ridge creature does and then "passively attacking").

But other than this peeping, and the helmet as reported on the "Monkey Man", this is still really different from any of those cases.

Honestly, the consistency of the "fur coat/stove-pipe hat" descriptions, even if it seems odd, makes me believe the sincerity of the witnesses. If you were going to make something up for attention, would you describe a ten foot tall hairy creature (the stereotypical bigfoot) or would you say you saw a Lincoln impersonator in a fur coat on stilts?

I always try to remind myself that individuals can ONLY describe the unknown in terms of the known.

While I'll never be convinced 100% until I get to see a body or a living specimen, the reporting of the odd aspect of the "stove pipe hat head" doesn't bother me so much as it would if we began doing as many in the UFO field do and sanitizing or ignoring reports that don't fit our preconceived notions. Down that path lies dogma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but the East-Indian Monkey Man, Springheeled Jack and the Mad Gasser of Mattoon all have a history of attacking (with the gasser, peeping as the Pine Ridge creature does and then &#8220;passively attacking&#8221;).</p>
<p>But other than this peeping, and the helmet as reported on the &#8220;Monkey Man&#8221;, this is still really different from any of those cases.</p>
<p>Honestly, the consistency of the &#8220;fur coat/stove-pipe hat&#8221; descriptions, even if it seems odd, makes me believe the sincerity of the witnesses. If you were going to make something up for attention, would you describe a ten foot tall hairy creature (the stereotypical bigfoot) or would you say you saw a Lincoln impersonator in a fur coat on stilts?</p>
<p>I always try to remind myself that individuals can ONLY describe the unknown in terms of the known.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;ll never be convinced 100% until I get to see a body or a living specimen, the reporting of the odd aspect of the &#8220;stove pipe hat head&#8221; doesn&#8217;t bother me so much as it would if we began doing as many in the UFO field do and sanitizing or ignoring reports that don&#8217;t fit our preconceived notions. Down that path lies dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: Graylien</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6532</link>
		<dc:creator>Graylien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me a little of the Monkey Man of New Dehli. He had a similar penchant for jumping on roofs and was sometimes depicted as wearing a kind of helmet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me a little of the Monkey Man of New Dehli. He had a similar penchant for jumping on roofs and was sometimes depicted as wearing a kind of helmet.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6531</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Per post 22:

As someone who's driven much of the Rez area, and who backpacked a week once in the heart of Bigfoot Country, I can vouch.

If there is indeed something there near as big and as bipedal as the reports are saying -- it ain't human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Per post 22:</p>
<p>As someone who&#8217;s driven much of the Rez area, and who backpacked a week once in the heart of Bigfoot Country, I can vouch.</p>
<p>If there is indeed something there near as big and as bipedal as the reports are saying &#8212; it ain&#8217;t human.</p>
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		<title>By: jplur</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6530</link>
		<dc:creator>jplur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skinwalker</description>
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		<title>By: harleyb</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6529</link>
		<dc:creator>harleyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually my fellow Cryptomundo readers,the "Tall man" that they are referring to is the strange creature that another reader and resident of Pine Ridge rozzb said was called the "telephone man".I don't know much else about it but that's what dude wrote a few weeks ago.He also wrote that the thing was said to have a pale face.I believe that its some sort of phantom or ghost,seperate from bigfoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually my fellow Cryptomundo readers,the &#8220;Tall man&#8221; that they are referring to is the strange creature that another reader and resident of Pine Ridge rozzb said was called the &#8220;telephone man&#8221;.I don&#8217;t know much else about it but that&#8217;s what dude wrote a few weeks ago.He also wrote that the thing was said to have a pale face.I believe that its some sort of phantom or ghost,seperate from bigfoot.</p>
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		<title>By: talthar</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6528</link>
		<dc:creator>talthar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool...I wondered how many folks would think of Springheel Jack when they heard that coat and stovepipe hat comment.

Can a Mad Gasser connection be far off?

Seriously, though, this is turning into one of the more intriguing Bigfoot stories that I've heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool&#8230;I wondered how many folks would think of Springheel Jack when they heard that coat and stovepipe hat comment.</p>
<p>Can a Mad Gasser connection be far off?</p>
<p>Seriously, though, this is turning into one of the more intriguing Bigfoot stories that I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6527</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll tell you one thing. I lived in 'Bigfoot' country in N. California. It was very rural and every house had at least one gun, usually loaded by the door with another one in the pickup. A reservation is about the same.

Only a suicidal idiot would dress up in a gorilla suit, or top hat, and skulk around people's houses.

I never saw one, but know people who swear they had. Why lie when people would think you were crazy?

/0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you one thing. I lived in &#8216;Bigfoot&#8217; country in N. California. It was very rural and every house had at least one gun, usually loaded by the door with another one in the pickup. A reservation is about the same.</p>
<p>Only a suicidal idiot would dress up in a gorilla suit, or top hat, and skulk around people&#8217;s houses.</p>
<p>I never saw one, but know people who swear they had. Why lie when people would think you were crazy?</p>
<p>/0</p>
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		<title>By: WVBotanist</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6526</link>
		<dc:creator>WVBotanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 02:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot of variability in stovepipe hats, they can be Abe Lincolnish or they can be somewhat like this http://www.historicalimagebank.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album115&#38;id=NA2_Sioux_Chief_Long_Soldier_wearing_US_Army_hat_and_blouse_jpg

or even more rounded like this

http://www.texashatters.com/product_detail.php?id=205

So, I can see mistaking a very tall Bigfoot, complete with sagittal crest and uniformly colored, long dark fur, being described for an unusually tall person in a cloak, sporting some fine headwear.

As far as Occam's razor goes, the crux of the matter lies in determining which possible solution is the simplest of solutions, considering all data.  Occam's razor does not require abandonment of imagination - in fact, arriving at the simplest solution often involves considerable imagining to uncover.  It simply requires eliminating portions of an explanation or solution that have no bearing on the overal predictive ability of the theory.

In the case of a Bigfoot, the only assumptions required are that a) there is a bigfoot (context sensitive), and b) people could describe him as a tall man in a top hat and coat.  Both required to arrive at a conclusion that the people actually saw bigfoot.  Were this event taken alone, without the Bigfoot concept being pre-established (however debated), and used to suggest for the first time, the existence of a Bigfoot, the Occam's razor would say no, way.  As it stands, there isn't enough data or complexity to either explanation to apply the razor, it just gets invoked in cases like this (not necessarily here) as strong opinion, belief, or faith, masquerading as a nominalist fact.  In reality, Occam was describing how people think, anyway, much like a version of 'The scientific method' is employed every time something new is learned through experience.

In summary, don't let Occam's razor or any expert in arguing the logistics of logical arguments cause you to dismiss a really good brainstorm.  Just wait a bit before you buy that duct tape, there may be a more appropriate alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot of variability in stovepipe hats, they can be Abe Lincolnish or they can be somewhat like this <a href="http://www.historicalimagebank.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album115&amp;id=NA2_Sioux_Chief_Long_Soldier_wearing_US_Army_hat_and_blouse_jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.historicalimagebank.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album115&amp;id=NA2_Sioux_Chief_Long_Soldier_wearing_US_Army_hat_and_blouse_jpg</a></p>
<p>or even more rounded like this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.texashatters.com/product_detail.php?id=205" rel="nofollow">http://www.texashatters.com/product_detail.php?id=205</a></p>
<p>So, I can see mistaking a very tall Bigfoot, complete with sagittal crest and uniformly colored, long dark fur, being described for an unusually tall person in a cloak, sporting some fine headwear.</p>
<p>As far as Occam&#8217;s razor goes, the crux of the matter lies in determining which possible solution is the simplest of solutions, considering all data.  Occam&#8217;s razor does not require abandonment of imagination - in fact, arriving at the simplest solution often involves considerable imagining to uncover.  It simply requires eliminating portions of an explanation or solution that have no bearing on the overal predictive ability of the theory.</p>
<p>In the case of a Bigfoot, the only assumptions required are that a) there is a bigfoot (context sensitive), and b) people could describe him as a tall man in a top hat and coat.  Both required to arrive at a conclusion that the people actually saw bigfoot.  Were this event taken alone, without the Bigfoot concept being pre-established (however debated), and used to suggest for the first time, the existence of a Bigfoot, the Occam&#8217;s razor would say no, way.  As it stands, there isn&#8217;t enough data or complexity to either explanation to apply the razor, it just gets invoked in cases like this (not necessarily here) as strong opinion, belief, or faith, masquerading as a nominalist fact.  In reality, Occam was describing how people think, anyway, much like a version of &#8216;The scientific method&#8217; is employed every time something new is learned through experience.</p>
<p>In summary, don&#8217;t let Occam&#8217;s razor or any expert in arguing the logistics of logical arguments cause you to dismiss a really good brainstorm.  Just wait a bit before you buy that duct tape, there may be a more appropriate alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: shieldmaiden</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/breaking-news/chiefconfprbf/#comment-6525</link>
		<dc:creator>shieldmaiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We also have to remember that the ancient Native Americans had lived side by side with these large hairy "men". In fact it is said in stories handed down by some tribes that a tribe of big hairy people lived with them. They were much different and so they were banned from living in the villages.

Can the heat sensors that Officer Twiss used be able to detect humans and animals?

As for bringing a youngling 'Bigfoot' close to civilization it isn't that at all uncommon. A woman that lives not far from me encounters a family of these 'Hairy' people that we call Bigfoot. And the 'parents' have brought around their offspring as if to show her. I believe if trust is formed anything in possible. This Bigfoot might have a small one with her and is carrying it on her back as suggested, or it could be a man dressed early for Halloween wanting to start up a scare. And a tall hat and long black coat would definitely be an inexpensive way to do that, plus the tall hat would give the illusion of great height.

Happy hunting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We also have to remember that the ancient Native Americans had lived side by side with these large hairy &#8220;men&#8221;. In fact it is said in stories handed down by some tribes that a tribe of big hairy people lived with them. They were much different and so they were banned from living in the villages.</p>
<p>Can the heat sensors that Officer Twiss used be able to detect humans and animals?</p>
<p>As for bringing a youngling &#8216;Bigfoot&#8217; close to civilization it isn&#8217;t that at all uncommon. A woman that lives not far from me encounters a family of these &#8216;Hairy&#8217; people that we call Bigfoot. And the &#8216;parents&#8217; have brought around their offspring as if to show her. I believe if trust is formed anything in possible. This Bigfoot might have a small one with her and is carrying it on her back as suggested, or it could be a man dressed early for Halloween wanting to start up a scare. And a tall hat and long black coat would definitely be an inexpensive way to do that, plus the tall hat would give the illusion of great height.</p>
<p>Happy hunting!</p>
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