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	<title>Comments on: Ucumar Zupai - Killer of Horses Part III</title>
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		<title>By: Kronprinz_adam</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very curious about this creature, and I found the following (in spanish) here:

http://www.galeon.com/norteargentino/leyendas.htm

A short summary:
Ucumar is a "bear-man" that lives in the wilderness and mountain ranges in the frontier with Bolivia...
The legend says, "that the mother of Ucumar is a young huntress that was lost in the jungle and 
was captured by a bear. They gave birth to the whole Ucumar race". 
Description:
It has a big belly, long, black hair, the hair covers a semi-human face, legs are similar to a bear, but the big toe is wide open. Some people says it has the feet backwards, which disorients the people who follows its tracks. Tracks are common near water sources. 
Small eyes, it posseses an extraordinary strenght and if the wind is favorable, it is possible to hear its strong howling. People is afraid of Ucumar, because it kindnaps humans of the opposite sex, and procreates with them. 
Kidnapped people tells always a similar story: they lived in a cave, but Ucumar covers the entrance of the cave with a big stone. When the hybrids of Ucumar and the humans grow up, they inherit the great strenght of the beast and are able to remove the stone, thus liberating the kidnapped people, who is able to return to their villages. Ucumar is generous with the captured people, it takes care of them, it feeds them with honey and  fruits".

[Backward feet and kidnapping are also said about central american Sisimite. The big stone stories and the people returning to their villages appear also in some native american bigfoot stories. The indians also call Ucumar to the andean bear, and this remind me of some european folk tales, where the bear man is also the wild man in some cases]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very curious about this creature, and I found the following (in spanish) here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.galeon.com/norteargentino/leyendas.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.galeon.com/norteargentino/leyendas.htm</a></p>
<p>A short summary:<br />
Ucumar is a &#8220;bear-man&#8221; that lives in the wilderness and mountain ranges in the frontier with Bolivia&#8230;<br />
The legend says, &#8220;that the mother of Ucumar is a young huntress that was lost in the jungle and<br />
was captured by a bear. They gave birth to the whole Ucumar race&#8221;.<br />
Description:<br />
It has a big belly, long, black hair, the hair covers a semi-human face, legs are similar to a bear, but the big toe is wide open. Some people says it has the feet backwards, which disorients the people who follows its tracks. Tracks are common near water sources.<br />
Small eyes, it posseses an extraordinary strenght and if the wind is favorable, it is possible to hear its strong howling. People is afraid of Ucumar, because it kindnaps humans of the opposite sex, and procreates with them.<br />
Kidnapped people tells always a similar story: they lived in a cave, but Ucumar covers the entrance of the cave with a big stone. When the hybrids of Ucumar and the humans grow up, they inherit the great strenght of the beast and are able to remove the stone, thus liberating the kidnapped people, who is able to return to their villages. Ucumar is generous with the captured people, it takes care of them, it feeds them with honey and  fruits&#8221;.</p>
<p>[Backward feet and kidnapping are also said about central american Sisimite. The big stone stories and the people returning to their villages appear also in some native american bigfoot stories. The indians also call Ucumar to the andean bear, and this remind me of some european folk tales, where the bear man is also the wild man in some cases]</p>
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		<title>By: M Valdemar</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall that about 10 years ago a lot of mainstream publications (National Geographic, Smithsonian, etc.) were buzzing about the possibility of giant ground sloths surviving in remote areas of South America. Then all that excitement died out.

Is it possibly that the Ucumar Zupai is a ground sloth that adopts a bipedal plantigrade stance? That would explain the large feet, the claws, and possibly the teeth as well. After all, we don't really know what the relationship between a surviving ground sloth and fossil ground sloths would be. And I'm not sure you could safely assume that a ground sloth would be as slow-moving as its arboreal cousins.

Also, a ground sloth would be more "bear-like" than a bipedal ape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall that about 10 years ago a lot of mainstream publications (National Geographic, Smithsonian, etc.) were buzzing about the possibility of giant ground sloths surviving in remote areas of South America. Then all that excitement died out.</p>
<p>Is it possibly that the Ucumar Zupai is a ground sloth that adopts a bipedal plantigrade stance? That would explain the large feet, the claws, and possibly the teeth as well. After all, we don&#8217;t really know what the relationship between a surviving ground sloth and fossil ground sloths would be. And I&#8217;m not sure you could safely assume that a ground sloth would be as slow-moving as its arboreal cousins.</p>
<p>Also, a ground sloth would be more &#8220;bear-like&#8221; than a bipedal ape.</p>
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		<title>By: M Valdemar</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CryptoInformant:

Ucumar Zupai = Bear Devil (or more likely, Devil Bear). See &lt;a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptid-universe/ucumar-zupai-2/#comment-2479" rel="nofollow"&gt;comment&lt;/a&gt; here.

Unless you disagree that ukumari/ucumari/ucumar are the same word in Quechua. In which case, you know more Quechua than I do, which is not unlikely. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CryptoInformant:</p>
<p>Ucumar Zupai = Bear Devil (or more likely, Devil Bear). See <a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptid-universe/ucumar-zupai-2/#comment-2479" rel="nofollow">comment</a> here.</p>
<p>Unless you disagree that ukumari/ucumari/ucumar are the same word in Quechua. In which case, you know more Quechua than I do, which is not unlikely. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: CryptoInformant</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree that Sasquatches have fangs any longer than that of a gorilla, and those are only for intimidation, not killing. Based on a southern US sighting that Bigfoot's favored method of killing  is picking something up and beating it against a tree. If the ________ Devil is a primate, it represents a whole new group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree that Sasquatches have fangs any longer than that of a gorilla, and those are only for intimidation, not killing. Based on a southern US sighting that Bigfoot&#8217;s favored method of killing  is picking something up and beating it against a tree. If the ________ Devil is a primate, it represents a whole new group.</p>
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		<title>By: dewhurst</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Ucumar is as I suspect a Sasquatch it would not be suprising to find that it has developed claws-many species of animal have evolved to live in certain environments and have developed different physical attributes-I do not know why Sasquatch should be any different. I have read reports of Sasquatch being a competent hunter-and there are certainly reports of it having 'fang like teeth' an old story of Bigfoot killing a trapper and leaving fang like neck wounds spring to mind. Also if Bigfoot or its more aggressive hunting/clawed cousin where abound in North America it may go some way to linking Sasquatch even more to the Native American legends of creatures like the Wendigo. Food for thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Ucumar is as I suspect a Sasquatch it would not be suprising to find that it has developed claws-many species of animal have evolved to live in certain environments and have developed different physical attributes-I do not know why Sasquatch should be any different. I have read reports of Sasquatch being a competent hunter-and there are certainly reports of it having &#8216;fang like teeth&#8217; an old story of Bigfoot killing a trapper and leaving fang like neck wounds spring to mind. Also if Bigfoot or its more aggressive hunting/clawed cousin where abound in North America it may go some way to linking Sasquatch even more to the Native American legends of creatures like the Wendigo. Food for thought?</p>
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