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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/mistaking-a-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-79604</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Massachusetts:

Misidentifications shouldn&#039;t be such a &quot;huge&quot; part of the true skeptic&#039;s debunking tool kit.

To rule misidentification requires one of two things:

1) One or more individuals present at the scene at the time who report something different, and whose reports make it clear that theirs is a reasonable interpretation compared to that of the dissenting witness; 

2) A description provided by the witness that allows subsequent debunking by an investigator at the scene (as in this instance).

One should also have 

3) A scenario in which the reported sighting simply does not seem likely.  (The bigfoot-in-Britain sighting file simply is not large, as noted here.)

Too often skeptics shout &quot;misidentifcation&quot; as an off-the-cuff kneejerk debunk, a decidedly improper use.  It frequently bespeaks bald-faced disregard of the evidence.  The best example is its use to downplay sasquatch and yeti sightings.  As I note, for most sasquatch sightings I have read, that the animal sighted was a sasquatch is actually the most mundane explanation; there&#039;s simply no way the creature described could be a known animal unless the sighter was either mentally impaired or lying, and there is a very large body of evidence.

When I hear &quot;misidentification&quot; I simply reply:  excuse me.  Were you there?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massachusetts:</p>
<p>Misidentifications shouldn&#8217;t be such a &#8220;huge&#8221; part of the true skeptic&#8217;s debunking tool kit.</p>
<p>To rule misidentification requires one of two things:</p>
<p>1) One or more individuals present at the scene at the time who report something different, and whose reports make it clear that theirs is a reasonable interpretation compared to that of the dissenting witness; </p>
<p>2) A description provided by the witness that allows subsequent debunking by an investigator at the scene (as in this instance).</p>
<p>One should also have </p>
<p>3) A scenario in which the reported sighting simply does not seem likely.  (The bigfoot-in-Britain sighting file simply is not large, as noted here.)</p>
<p>Too often skeptics shout &#8220;misidentifcation&#8221; as an off-the-cuff kneejerk debunk, a decidedly improper use.  It frequently bespeaks bald-faced disregard of the evidence.  The best example is its use to downplay sasquatch and yeti sightings.  As I note, for most sasquatch sightings I have read, that the animal sighted was a sasquatch is actually the most mundane explanation; there&#8217;s simply no way the creature described could be a known animal unless the sighter was either mentally impaired or lying, and there is a very large body of evidence.</p>
<p>When I hear &#8220;misidentification&#8221; I simply reply:  excuse me.  Were you there?</p>
<p>If you weren&#8217;t, you are likely speaking out of turn.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/mistaking-a-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-79603</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having read the linked story and seen the figure

1) Most bigfoot sightings I&#039;ve read are nothing like this case.  They involve a subject that was clearly moving on its own, and considerably more detail;

2) Most bigfoot reports don&#039;t involve somebody getting a passing glimpse of something, then immediately reporting it over the phone as a bigfoot;

3) Almost no bigfoot reports involve something with a cultural precedent like this one (unless one wants to include somebody thinking a bigfoot statue is a bigfoot).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the linked story and seen the figure</p>
<p>1) Most bigfoot sightings I&#8217;ve read are nothing like this case.  They involve a subject that was clearly moving on its own, and considerably more detail;</p>
<p>2) Most bigfoot reports don&#8217;t involve somebody getting a passing glimpse of something, then immediately reporting it over the phone as a bigfoot;</p>
<p>3) Almost no bigfoot reports involve something with a cultural precedent like this one (unless one wants to include somebody thinking a bigfoot statue is a bigfoot).</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/mistaking-a-monster/comment-page-1/#comment-79602</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Misidentification might be an issue in cases like these:

1) somebody hears that a red panda is on the loose (real case).  the person catches a brief glimpse of a cat, or a fox, or a badger, and isn&#039;t totally sure as the sighting was brief.  But the person wants to help, and reports it, maybe including their uncertainty what it was.

2) somebody sees a guy clad all in black top to toe, including hoodie, at a distance, a BIG guy, and a considerable distance.  He wants to help, so he reports it as a possible bigfoot, maybe including his uncertainty.  (Right.  I don&#039;t see many dressed like that either.)

3) somebody in one of the above cases is dead certain (and wrong).  But I just don&#039;t think that happens much to a person who doesn&#039;t have An Agenda.  As most cryptid sighters don&#039;t - they don&#039;t really want to have seen what they saw - I don&#039;t think this one happens often.

As to Bigfoot in Britain, another situation in which misidentifications might loom large is a really small sample size.  For sasquatch in North America, in no way do misidentifications seem significant.  There&#039;s too much evidence and it&#039;s too consistent to make that likely.  (I have read virtually no accounts that do not come down to:  sasquatch; hospitalizable mental malfunction; or downright lie.)  But for something that the volume of evidence doesn&#039;t seem to indicate attaches to an unknown phenomenon, that might be another story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misidentification might be an issue in cases like these:</p>
<p>1) somebody hears that a red panda is on the loose (real case).  the person catches a brief glimpse of a cat, or a fox, or a badger, and isn&#8217;t totally sure as the sighting was brief.  But the person wants to help, and reports it, maybe including their uncertainty what it was.</p>
<p>2) somebody sees a guy clad all in black top to toe, including hoodie, at a distance, a BIG guy, and a considerable distance.  He wants to help, so he reports it as a possible bigfoot, maybe including his uncertainty.  (Right.  I don&#8217;t see many dressed like that either.)</p>
<p>3) somebody in one of the above cases is dead certain (and wrong).  But I just don&#8217;t think that happens much to a person who doesn&#8217;t have An Agenda.  As most cryptid sighters don&#8217;t &#8211; they don&#8217;t really want to have seen what they saw &#8211; I don&#8217;t think this one happens often.</p>
<p>As to Bigfoot in Britain, another situation in which misidentifications might loom large is a really small sample size.  For sasquatch in North America, in no way do misidentifications seem significant.  There&#8217;s too much evidence and it&#8217;s too consistent to make that likely.  (I have read virtually no accounts that do not come down to:  sasquatch; hospitalizable mental malfunction; or downright lie.)  But for something that the volume of evidence doesn&#8217;t seem to indicate attaches to an unknown phenomenon, that might be another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Massachusetts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Massachusetts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 00:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Misidentifications are a huge part of the debunking tool kit. Often debunkers who suggest a misidentification are shouted down, but it seems like a reasonable place to start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misidentifications are a huge part of the debunking tool kit. Often debunkers who suggest a misidentification are shouted down, but it seems like a reasonable place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: AreWeThereYeti</title>
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		<dc:creator>AreWeThereYeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 01:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While one might see this case as a &quot;cautionary one,&quot; consider it from the opposite side: she didn&#039;t make it up; in fact, the woman provided what turned-out to be an accurate description of what she observed!

So, for those who dismiss sighting reports out-of-hand, don&#039;t be too sure that witnesses didn&#039;t see exactly what they reported.  Now, whether what was seen was really a stump, a giant stick figure, or Bigfoot himself; that&#039;s where the real work - follow-up investigation - begins...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While one might see this case as a &#8220;cautionary one,&#8221; consider it from the opposite side: she didn&#8217;t make it up; in fact, the woman provided what turned-out to be an accurate description of what she observed!</p>
<p>So, for those who dismiss sighting reports out-of-hand, don&#8217;t be too sure that witnesses didn&#8217;t see exactly what they reported.  Now, whether what was seen was really a stump, a giant stick figure, or Bigfoot himself; that&#8217;s where the real work &#8211; follow-up investigation &#8211; begins&#8230;</p>
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