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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/conversations-with-bigfoot/comment-page-1/#comment-67851</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My current candidate for ScaryFunniest thing I&#039;ve ever read:

“. . .way too much accurate information to be made up” 

We live on the same plane of reality (at least it sometimes appears that way) with beings like this.

And the sasquatch, if, like me, you think scientifically.  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current candidate for ScaryFunniest thing I&#8217;ve ever read:</p>
<p>“. . .way too much accurate information to be made up” </p>
<p>We live on the same plane of reality (at least it sometimes appears that way) with beings like this.</p>
<p>And the sasquatch, if, like me, you think scientifically.  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven Streufert</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/conversations-with-bigfoot/comment-page-1/#comment-67847</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Streufert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debunking false hypotheses is integral to the scientific method. Hence, in crypto fields we benefit by the exposure of falsehoods. Exposing a hoax does not discredit Bigfoot. It is religion and other such areas that proceed through faith and self-validation of unproven premises. That is what happened here, with an amusing literary tale. Some folks in the Bigfooting habituation underground read this story and basically just said, &quot;Right on, man! It HAS to be true, as it accords with my own beliefs.&quot; Even when presented with the undeniable FACTS they would still not relent, and instead shifted over to the methodology of Conspiracy Theory. It is a form of irrationalism that is a real boil on the butt of Bigfooting. I do think, though, that we can proceed with the more convincing anecdotes and evidence, and simply utilize the rest of the bunkum for our amusement. If one doesn&#039;t take it all too seriously, hoaxes and tall tales can be seen as a fun sort of absurdity. Critical discernment is, as always, required as a first principle, utilizing Occam&#039;s Razor all the way down the line, but ever keeping a mind open to possibility.

Steve
Bigfoot Bookman
Bigfoot Books, Willow Creek]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debunking false hypotheses is integral to the scientific method. Hence, in crypto fields we benefit by the exposure of falsehoods. Exposing a hoax does not discredit Bigfoot. It is religion and other such areas that proceed through faith and self-validation of unproven premises. That is what happened here, with an amusing literary tale. Some folks in the Bigfooting habituation underground read this story and basically just said, &#8220;Right on, man! It HAS to be true, as it accords with my own beliefs.&#8221; Even when presented with the undeniable FACTS they would still not relent, and instead shifted over to the methodology of Conspiracy Theory. It is a form of irrationalism that is a real boil on the butt of Bigfooting. I do think, though, that we can proceed with the more convincing anecdotes and evidence, and simply utilize the rest of the bunkum for our amusement. If one doesn&#8217;t take it all too seriously, hoaxes and tall tales can be seen as a fun sort of absurdity. Critical discernment is, as always, required as a first principle, utilizing Occam&#8217;s Razor all the way down the line, but ever keeping a mind open to possibility.</p>
<p>Steve<br />
Bigfoot Bookman<br />
Bigfoot Books, Willow Creek</p>
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		<title>By: wshinhamjr</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot/conversations-with-bigfoot/comment-page-1/#comment-67839</link>
		<dc:creator>wshinhamjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, we now have two wonderous stories of verbal communications with BF. One by Janice Carter that is almost universally derided as baloney where &quot;Fox&quot; asked for garlic and she wanted to know he wanted cloves or powder (she said they use this to keep bugs off) Now the opposite end of the spectrum where we have an existentialist BF of immense scholarly brain power who speaks like he&#039;s a scholarly version of Carl Jung! Gee wonder which version is more believable? I think I might stick with Janice&#039;s if I had to pick one! LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, we now have two wonderous stories of verbal communications with BF. One by Janice Carter that is almost universally derided as baloney where &#8220;Fox&#8221; asked for garlic and she wanted to know he wanted cloves or powder (she said they use this to keep bugs off) Now the opposite end of the spectrum where we have an existentialist BF of immense scholarly brain power who speaks like he&#8217;s a scholarly version of Carl Jung! Gee wonder which version is more believable? I think I might stick with Janice&#8217;s if I had to pick one! LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: whiteriverfisherman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first I thought this post was a joke, a fun little bit of playing around, but as I read it I couldn’t believe people actually thought this story was true.  I mean come on people!!  This Ivy League Bigfoot crushed by a rock slide and dying decides to have a thoughtful chat with some dude while waiting for death?  Hell the guy could have carried the beast out and nursed back to health in less time than it took the two to have their touching conversation.  

Unbelievable!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I thought this post was a joke, a fun little bit of playing around, but as I read it I couldn’t believe people actually thought this story was true.  I mean come on people!!  This Ivy League Bigfoot crushed by a rock slide and dying decides to have a thoughtful chat with some dude while waiting for death?  Hell the guy could have carried the beast out and nursed back to health in less time than it took the two to have their touching conversation.  </p>
<p>Unbelievable!!</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on Craig!  (and Steve!)

Once again, the perils of insufficient research and jumping to premature conclusions.  Budding cryptos, take note!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on Craig!  (and Steve!)</p>
<p>Once again, the perils of insufficient research and jumping to premature conclusions.  Budding cryptos, take note!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right on DWA!

Except for the fact that Steven Streufert of &lt;a href=&quot;http://bigfootbooksblog.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bigfoot&#039;s bLog&lt;/a&gt; posted this... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on DWA!</p>
<p>Except for the fact that Steven Streufert of <a href="http://bigfootbooksblog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Bigfoot&#8217;s bLog</a> posted this&#8230; <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this Dodge guy already.

Playful indeed.  You go, man!  Sometimes the fringes of a science need to get scorched back…and the core of the science needs to make a measured response to the nonsense emanating from the fringe.  Physics seems to handle this OK; so does astronomy.  Zoology needs to work on it; and crypto is a good place.

Ulysses:  you say that 

…things like this sometimes make us lose heart. Is it true that Bigfoot is and urban legend, a myth a lost or incorrect interpretation by Native America of an actual animal such as a bear or even a forest hermit? As with all things, faith plays a role for those who have never witnessed…

Well, I&#039;ve never witnessed...OK, a couple really weird pieces of possible evidence but never seen one ...and faith plays no role with me.  Why lose heart over something like this?  Shouldn’t it be obvious to anyone what this is?  I’m gonna keep saying this:  the only truly fun way to look at this topic is THE SCIENTIFIC WAY.  Belief has no more place here than it did in the confirmation of black holes.   True Believers get tossed all over the place on the random waves of faith.   They never look at the evidence, which would be really handy in helping them sort things out.  The scientific thinkers note the vast volume of corroborating evidence, and put stuff like this in its proper place.  We can even recognize it for the fun it is.  We’re comfortable that evidence seems to point to reality, and that science historically takes a really long time to come around sometimes, and that B-movie tabloid baggage is making Bigfoot take longer.   That’s all.

I really doubt the Native Americans screwed up.  It’s us Anglo-Euros who did that.  We came here with our Wildman-myths from Europe; we knew those didn’t describe real animals, so we ‘knew’ the Natives weren’t describing them either.   We ‘knew’ they were doing their own Wildman thing; or worse yet, we labeled them simpletons who couldn’t tell fact from fancy.  Because we ‘knew.’  Well?   Sometimes knowledge isn’t.  

This kind of stuff does, size 13, have the unfortunate tendency to put research back.  That is mainly because, when outside of their narrow scientific fields of specialty, scientists all too often become The Rest Of Us, and lose their ability to focus on – or even know to ask for – the evidence.   They read this stuff; chuckle scoff or whatever; and go back to quasars…never having bothered themselves with the evidence that there may be more than a grain of truth behind the Dodges of crypto.  This is their prerogative; but they should try to engage the scientist in them at least enough to recognize that in trying to sound like an expert when one is out of his or her depth, one is doing no one any favors.

Loren wants to turn people on to crypto and make them think.  And once more he’s put up a blog that had me going oh-brother…and then thinking a bit.  Bravo.  So may we all.  Because thought will pull crypto out of the true-belief mire and into the light of science.

At least so I think; and isn’t that my prerogative?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this Dodge guy already.</p>
<p>Playful indeed.  You go, man!  Sometimes the fringes of a science need to get scorched back…and the core of the science needs to make a measured response to the nonsense emanating from the fringe.  Physics seems to handle this OK; so does astronomy.  Zoology needs to work on it; and crypto is a good place.</p>
<p>Ulysses:  you say that </p>
<p>…things like this sometimes make us lose heart. Is it true that Bigfoot is and urban legend, a myth a lost or incorrect interpretation by Native America of an actual animal such as a bear or even a forest hermit? As with all things, faith plays a role for those who have never witnessed…</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve never witnessed&#8230;OK, a couple really weird pieces of possible evidence but never seen one &#8230;and faith plays no role with me.  Why lose heart over something like this?  Shouldn’t it be obvious to anyone what this is?  I’m gonna keep saying this:  the only truly fun way to look at this topic is THE SCIENTIFIC WAY.  Belief has no more place here than it did in the confirmation of black holes.   True Believers get tossed all over the place on the random waves of faith.   They never look at the evidence, which would be really handy in helping them sort things out.  The scientific thinkers note the vast volume of corroborating evidence, and put stuff like this in its proper place.  We can even recognize it for the fun it is.  We’re comfortable that evidence seems to point to reality, and that science historically takes a really long time to come around sometimes, and that B-movie tabloid baggage is making Bigfoot take longer.   That’s all.</p>
<p>I really doubt the Native Americans screwed up.  It’s us Anglo-Euros who did that.  We came here with our Wildman-myths from Europe; we knew those didn’t describe real animals, so we ‘knew’ the Natives weren’t describing them either.   We ‘knew’ they were doing their own Wildman thing; or worse yet, we labeled them simpletons who couldn’t tell fact from fancy.  Because we ‘knew.’  Well?   Sometimes knowledge isn’t.  </p>
<p>This kind of stuff does, size 13, have the unfortunate tendency to put research back.  That is mainly because, when outside of their narrow scientific fields of specialty, scientists all too often become The Rest Of Us, and lose their ability to focus on – or even know to ask for – the evidence.   They read this stuff; chuckle scoff or whatever; and go back to quasars…never having bothered themselves with the evidence that there may be more than a grain of truth behind the Dodges of crypto.  This is their prerogative; but they should try to engage the scientist in them at least enough to recognize that in trying to sound like an expert when one is out of his or her depth, one is doing no one any favors.</p>
<p>Loren wants to turn people on to crypto and make them think.  And once more he’s put up a blog that had me going oh-brother…and then thinking a bit.  Bravo.  So may we all.  Because thought will pull crypto out of the true-belief mire and into the light of science.</p>
<p>At least so I think; and isn’t that my prerogative?</p>
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		<title>By: size 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>size 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s no wonder that scholars look at the subject with disdain. With literal crap like this who would believe in Bigfoot? It most definitely mars the work of serious and intelligent Bigfoot Researchers.

I also think that far too much attention has been given as to what it is not and bogus information on the subject such as a bogus story like this is given &quot;air time&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no wonder that scholars look at the subject with disdain. With literal crap like this who would believe in Bigfoot? It most definitely mars the work of serious and intelligent Bigfoot Researchers.</p>
<p>I also think that far too much attention has been given as to what it is not and bogus information on the subject such as a bogus story like this is given &#8220;air time&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulysses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulysses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, there you go! It seems a playful jib but things like this sometimes make us lose heart. Is it true that Bigfoot is and urban legend, a myth a lost or incorrect interpretation by Native America of an actual animal such as a bear or even a forest hermit? As with all things, faith plays a role for those who have never witnessed while there are others who have claims to witness miracles: Floating angels in the sky or talking to them in their rooms, the sudden cures of a deathly ill person, people returning from the dead, seeing the fires of Hell and repenting for their past lives and even a burning bush! Bigfoot? I believe though myself but things like this set the whole investigation back light years. No one has seen a black hole or dark matter but it&#039;s out there! We think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there you go! It seems a playful jib but things like this sometimes make us lose heart. Is it true that Bigfoot is and urban legend, a myth a lost or incorrect interpretation by Native America of an actual animal such as a bear or even a forest hermit? As with all things, faith plays a role for those who have never witnessed while there are others who have claims to witness miracles: Floating angels in the sky or talking to them in their rooms, the sudden cures of a deathly ill person, people returning from the dead, seeing the fires of Hell and repenting for their past lives and even a burning bush! Bigfoot? I believe though myself but things like this set the whole investigation back light years. No one has seen a black hole or dark matter but it&#8217;s out there! We think?</p>
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