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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/what-americans-believe2/comment-page-1/#comment-19159</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, while I took the class (and did well at it, including a nightmarish run-in with SPSS) I can&#039;t claim to have much  more experience than that -- jjames could tell you much more, and give far more creative input than I could.

I did try to take a look at the report, as I&#039;m always interested in things like this -- but the pdf file is broken at this point.

Drop a message on the board when it&#039;s working again -- I&#039;d like to read the report in depth (as it&#039;s always, *interesting* to see how the popular press interprets things like this...!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, while I took the class (and did well at it, including a nightmarish run-in with SPSS) I can&#8217;t claim to have much  more experience than that &#8212; jjames could tell you much more, and give far more creative input than I could.</p>
<p>I did try to take a look at the report, as I&#8217;m always interested in things like this &#8212; but the pdf file is broken at this point.</p>
<p>Drop a message on the board when it&#8217;s working again &#8212; I&#8217;d like to read the report in depth (as it&#8217;s always, *interesting* to see how the popular press interprets things like this&#8230;!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ninjabunny</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/what-americans-believe2/comment-page-1/#comment-19158</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninjabunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I find very unfortunate is how much politics and social views affect science, rather than the truth regardless of the implications. A photo taken by Dr X with PHD&#039;s etc out the ying yang is it seems seldom ever scrutinized to the degree of a photo by John Doe, why? A lot of discoveries, inventions etc are done by John Does rather than Dr Xs, but its the Dr Xs who write the papers, get the credit etc, which really aren&#039;t fair. History is full of the Scientists saying things that became unproven ie mustard gas could never be used, would kill everyone, flying wasn&#039;t possible, and travel at speeds of over 30mph wasn&#039;t possible as the human body couldn&#039;t withstand the pressure, to name a few. It seems to me further that the more controversial the subject ie for example is, no well founded credited Dr would ever publish a photo he personally too for fear of reputation damage, not to mention that the Government has views on what society should and shouldn&#039;t know. The end result here I think is that it takes a dead one dragged in to say here ya go explain this irrefutable evidence.The problem with this types of surveys is not only the above but sorting out eye witness&#039;s, people who know and believe these people, along with I want to believe types to the average person, the survey is indeed biased by sampling this site right off, as it would be sampling a scientific site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find very unfortunate is how much politics and social views affect science, rather than the truth regardless of the implications. A photo taken by Dr X with PHD&#8217;s etc out the ying yang is it seems seldom ever scrutinized to the degree of a photo by John Doe, why? A lot of discoveries, inventions etc are done by John Does rather than Dr Xs, but its the Dr Xs who write the papers, get the credit etc, which really aren&#8217;t fair. History is full of the Scientists saying things that became unproven ie mustard gas could never be used, would kill everyone, flying wasn&#8217;t possible, and travel at speeds of over 30mph wasn&#8217;t possible as the human body couldn&#8217;t withstand the pressure, to name a few. It seems to me further that the more controversial the subject ie for example is, no well founded credited Dr would ever publish a photo he personally too for fear of reputation damage, not to mention that the Government has views on what society should and shouldn&#8217;t know. The end result here I think is that it takes a dead one dragged in to say here ya go explain this irrefutable evidence.The problem with this types of surveys is not only the above but sorting out eye witness&#8217;s, people who know and believe these people, along with I want to believe types to the average person, the survey is indeed biased by sampling this site right off, as it would be sampling a scientific site.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisBader</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/what-americans-believe2/comment-page-1/#comment-19157</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisBader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunny and jjames - you two really know your stuff.  If you ever feel so inclined, take a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baylor.edu/isreligion/index.php?id=40634&quot;&gt;initial report&lt;/a&gt; from the Baylor Religion Survey.

This talks about our methodology, shows the full questionnaire, etc.  We are preparing Wave 2 - so any comments, advice or critiques you might have would be most useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunny and jjames &#8211; you two really know your stuff.  If you ever feel so inclined, take a look at the <a href="http://www.baylor.edu/isreligion/index.php?id=40634">initial report</a> from the Baylor Religion Survey.</p>
<p>This talks about our methodology, shows the full questionnaire, etc.  We are preparing Wave 2 &#8211; so any comments, advice or critiques you might have would be most useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm, one of the very first things they tell you when taking a market research course is that you ask about age/gender/race/political party/religion/etc -- specifically so you can be sure you haven&#039;t inadvertently picked a statistically skewed sample. Can you imagine how badly the results would be skewed if you happened to be doing a walk-by survey (yes, this was a mail survey, but work with me) on a city street where one hotel in the city was hosting a science-fiction convention and another was hosting a meeting of the Flat Earth Society?

And non-responses are only mentioned as an aside to the research report (e.g., 1000 surveys were mailed, of which 400 were returned), because non-responses are exactly that, non-responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm, one of the very first things they tell you when taking a market research course is that you ask about age/gender/race/political party/religion/etc &#8212; specifically so you can be sure you haven&#8217;t inadvertently picked a statistically skewed sample. Can you imagine how badly the results would be skewed if you happened to be doing a walk-by survey (yes, this was a mail survey, but work with me) on a city street where one hotel in the city was hosting a science-fiction convention and another was hosting a meeting of the Flat Earth Society?</p>
<p>And non-responses are only mentioned as an aside to the research report (e.g., 1000 surveys were mailed, of which 400 were returned), because non-responses are exactly that, non-responses.</p>
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		<title>By: jjames1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjames1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr.Inspector, you&#039;re making some odd presumptions about this survey.  I believe you said in another thread that you &quot;studied&quot; statistics at some point in school.  Well, I work in market research, and deal with questionnaire design and creation, survey results, and analysis of qualitative &amp; quantitative data on a daily basis.

I fail to see what your point is re: asking someone&#039;s political affiliation.  Asking questions that determine an audience&#039;s demographic makeup is an absolutely accepted and standard practice in the polling and research world.

Also, regarding your question about people that just &quot;walked away,&quot; I would be willing to bet that the poll was done via the phone, with perhaps an online component, as well.  If people don&#039;t complete a survey because they &quot;walk away,&quot; hang up the phone, etc., they&#039;re not included in the sample.  Why WOULD they be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Inspector, you&#8217;re making some odd presumptions about this survey.  I believe you said in another thread that you &#8220;studied&#8221; statistics at some point in school.  Well, I work in market research, and deal with questionnaire design and creation, survey results, and analysis of qualitative &amp; quantitative data on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I fail to see what your point is re: asking someone&#8217;s political affiliation.  Asking questions that determine an audience&#8217;s demographic makeup is an absolutely accepted and standard practice in the polling and research world.</p>
<p>Also, regarding your question about people that just &#8220;walked away,&#8221; I would be willing to bet that the poll was done via the phone, with perhaps an online component, as well.  If people don&#8217;t complete a survey because they &#8220;walk away,&#8221; hang up the phone, etc., they&#8217;re not included in the sample.  Why WOULD they be?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisBader</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisBader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig invited me to join in on the discussion. Thanks for the comments. I appreciate your feedback and will be pushing for more questions on cryptozoology on the next wave of the Baylor Religion Survey.

I even appreciate your feedback Mr Inspector - I&#039;m sure you could go &quot;on and on&quot; with your list of serious flaws. It is easy to do so when you have no idea what you are talking about. You are making enormous assumptions about the survey that are simply not correct.  The survey was not conducted in the presence of a pollster. It was mailed to respondents to complete. We know the numbers for people who returned and did not return the questionnaire and did not have higher non-response from a particular political group, etc. And I&#039;m sorry if a pollster has hurt you in some way.

If any of you have any questions or comments feel free to write me at any time or post here. I&#039;ll respond in a few days when I return from a conference. It will be at least entertaining to see how much I have annoyed &quot;Mr Inspector.&quot;

Thanks again for your interest and keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig invited me to join in on the discussion. Thanks for the comments. I appreciate your feedback and will be pushing for more questions on cryptozoology on the next wave of the Baylor Religion Survey.</p>
<p>I even appreciate your feedback Mr Inspector &#8211; I&#8217;m sure you could go &#8220;on and on&#8221; with your list of serious flaws. It is easy to do so when you have no idea what you are talking about. You are making enormous assumptions about the survey that are simply not correct.  The survey was not conducted in the presence of a pollster. It was mailed to respondents to complete. We know the numbers for people who returned and did not return the questionnaire and did not have higher non-response from a particular political group, etc. And I&#8217;m sorry if a pollster has hurt you in some way.</p>
<p>If any of you have any questions or comments feel free to write me at any time or post here. I&#8217;ll respond in a few days when I return from a conference. It will be at least entertaining to see how much I have annoyed &#8220;Mr Inspector.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks again for your interest and keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: CamperGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CamperGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 04:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christopher, I thought your survey was interesting. Personally I didn&#039;t see anything controversial. I figure any exposure on the bigfoot topic is good, so for that, I thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher, I thought your survey was interesting. Personally I didn&#8217;t see anything controversial. I figure any exposure on the bigfoot topic is good, so for that, I thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: MrInspector</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrInspector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 03:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fail to see any validity in tracking the political affiliations, and/or voting practices, of the survey&#039;s participants.

Any attempts to justify this with the old, &quot;we&#039;re trying to group our participants&quot;, or &quot;we are gathering data about specific groups&quot; merely points out how un-scientific the results are. The study should be totally blind, the questions should be designed to be as non-ambiguous as possible, and conducted without a pollster in order to provide any usable data. And still, whomever compiles said data, may impart a bias to said results intentionally or not.

Hence, the very not scientific nature of the poll/survey.

Where in your numbers do you account for the people who merely gave your pollsters a dirty look and walked away without a word? How did you classify those according to political affiliation? I can go on with a list of serious or fatal (to the survey) flaws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see any validity in tracking the political affiliations, and/or voting practices, of the survey&#8217;s participants.</p>
<p>Any attempts to justify this with the old, &#8220;we&#8217;re trying to group our participants&#8221;, or &#8220;we are gathering data about specific groups&#8221; merely points out how un-scientific the results are. The study should be totally blind, the questions should be designed to be as non-ambiguous as possible, and conducted without a pollster in order to provide any usable data. And still, whomever compiles said data, may impart a bias to said results intentionally or not.</p>
<p>Hence, the very not scientific nature of the poll/survey.</p>
<p>Where in your numbers do you account for the people who merely gave your pollsters a dirty look and walked away without a word? How did you classify those according to political affiliation? I can go on with a list of serious or fatal (to the survey) flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good response, now on to Big Foot in Texas. It&#039;s a big state, it has to be loaded with primates with big feet.

No doubt about it, we are still the Planet of the Apes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good response, now on to Big Foot in Texas. It&#8217;s a big state, it has to be loaded with primates with big feet.</p>
<p>No doubt about it, we are still the Planet of the Apes</p>
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		<title>By: Ceroill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceroill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for writing to us Mr. Bader. We appreciate the extra details you gave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing to us Mr. Bader. We appreciate the extra details you gave.</p>
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