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		<title>By: fuzzy</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/update-man-bf/#comment-22097</link>
		<dc:creator>fuzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAK YAK YAK, 66 times!

And what have we learned, boys and girls?

Well, apparently, mischievous folks in Manitoba (which is well-known for its mischief-makers) like to put on strange costumes and wait around on snowy hilltops in the cold for someone with a camcorder to come along, and then they run away, in case said camcorder-wielders also wield big guns.

So, it's either a REAL cryptid video, or it isn't.
It's either a guy in a parka, or a real creature, or neither.
The camera loses focus at a critical point, but it might have been a bump in the road, or not.
The figure is either too big or too small to be a Bigfoot.
Its head is too big (but it could be a guy in a parka).
Its arms are too short, or too long, to be human.
It walks really fast and smoothly, or maybe not.
The snow is light and fluffy, and waist deep.
Or maybe wet and heavy, and ankle deep.
To a guy in a parka, that is.
But not to a seven foot basketball player.
It looks ape-like, but it's too far away to tell.

The cameraman looks where he thought the figure might show up, and there it is!  Suspicious.

The inexperienced, non-professional father and son team, flustered, excited and maybe even a little scared, "didn't even think" to video the footprints, or whip out a measuring device to document their size or step or stride!  Suspicious.

This team also didn't think to run into the woods after the beast to try to get better video.  VERY Suspicious!

They then took the video to a professional group to process it, including slo-mo and labeling!  HOAX!!

Then they posted it on MetaCafe, a money-making site, instead of YouTube, which isn't (yet).  HOAX!! FRAUD!! MONEY SCHEME!!

Or, maybe not?

Good thing the video wasn't closer, more focused, better lit, longer, from a different angle, with stereo sound (including a grunt or two), with original commentaries - can you imagine how many comments there'd be then??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAK YAK YAK, 66 times!</p>
<p>And what have we learned, boys and girls?</p>
<p>Well, apparently, mischievous folks in Manitoba (which is well-known for its mischief-makers) like to put on strange costumes and wait around on snowy hilltops in the cold for someone with a camcorder to come along, and then they run away, in case said camcorder-wielders also wield big guns.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s either a REAL cryptid video, or it isn&#8217;t.<br />
It&#8217;s either a guy in a parka, or a real creature, or neither.<br />
The camera loses focus at a critical point, but it might have been a bump in the road, or not.<br />
The figure is either too big or too small to be a Bigfoot.<br />
Its head is too big (but it could be a guy in a parka).<br />
Its arms are too short, or too long, to be human.<br />
It walks really fast and smoothly, or maybe not.<br />
The snow is light and fluffy, and waist deep.<br />
Or maybe wet and heavy, and ankle deep.<br />
To a guy in a parka, that is.<br />
But not to a seven foot basketball player.<br />
It looks ape-like, but it&#8217;s too far away to tell.</p>
<p>The cameraman looks where he thought the figure might show up, and there it is!  Suspicious.</p>
<p>The inexperienced, non-professional father and son team, flustered, excited and maybe even a little scared, &#8220;didn&#8217;t even think&#8221; to video the footprints, or whip out a measuring device to document their size or step or stride!  Suspicious.</p>
<p>This team also didn&#8217;t think to run into the woods after the beast to try to get better video.  VERY Suspicious!</p>
<p>They then took the video to a professional group to process it, including slo-mo and labeling!  HOAX!!</p>
<p>Then they posted it on MetaCafe, a money-making site, instead of YouTube, which isn&#8217;t (yet).  HOAX!! FRAUD!! MONEY SCHEME!!</p>
<p>Or, maybe not?</p>
<p>Good thing the video wasn&#8217;t closer, more focused, better lit, longer, from a different angle, with stereo sound (including a grunt or two), with original commentaries - can you imagine how many comments there&#8217;d be then??</p>
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		<title>By: wisewindigo</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/update-man-bf/#comment-22096</link>
		<dc:creator>wisewindigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this area and ridge popular trees are not very tall, this would make this "creature" only 5-6 feet.  One thing to add, the "Interlake spectator" (local newspaper), recently did a report about a film crew heading out into the area to document sightings in the interlake area.  Therefore one would conclude that the "muffin topped" stature of this creature would be more of an opportunity than a reality.  Of course this is only my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this area and ridge popular trees are not very tall, this would make this &#8220;creature&#8221; only 5-6 feet.  One thing to add, the &#8220;Interlake spectator&#8221; (local newspaper), recently did a report about a film crew heading out into the area to document sightings in the interlake area.  Therefore one would conclude that the &#8220;muffin topped&#8221; stature of this creature would be more of an opportunity than a reality.  Of course this is only my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: mystery_man</title>
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		<dc:creator>mystery_man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DWA- That is one thing that is very odd, isn't it? If this was a planned hoax, why bother to give a frame by frame version of the video in slow motion and thereby risk debunking? It wouldn't make any sense to include that if you were a hoaxer. At first I was thinking maybe they weren't in on the hoax and they were essentially hoaxed themselves, but then why would they mistake a guy walking through the snow in a parka(something probably pretty common around those parts) for something so fantastic that they had to get the video camera out? I'll admit, these are two things that are hard to explain.  My stance on this video hasn't changed, but it is curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWA- That is one thing that is very odd, isn&#8217;t it? If this was a planned hoax, why bother to give a frame by frame version of the video in slow motion and thereby risk debunking? It wouldn&#8217;t make any sense to include that if you were a hoaxer. At first I was thinking maybe they weren&#8217;t in on the hoax and they were essentially hoaxed themselves, but then why would they mistake a guy walking through the snow in a parka(something probably pretty common around those parts) for something so fantastic that they had to get the video camera out? I&#8217;ll admit, these are two things that are hard to explain.  My stance on this video hasn&#8217;t changed, but it is curious.</p>
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		<title>By: tmr3513</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmr3513</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have looked at this video a couple of times fellows and it still looks like a guy in a parka with the hood up, maybe wearing cross country skies, out for some exercise on some deep hard pack snow.Probably has snowmobile bibs on under the parka and a full face ski mask.What was the temperature out side?

I just think these two guys saw somebody where they didn't expect to and let their minds play games. Watch when He reaches up to knock a branch away. Probably some guy out checking his trap line. Didn't even seem bothered by the approach of the vehicle.

I know we all want to see a real Bigfoot, but fellows, I just think that is what this guys drinking buddies call him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have looked at this video a couple of times fellows and it still looks like a guy in a parka with the hood up, maybe wearing cross country skies, out for some exercise on some deep hard pack snow.Probably has snowmobile bibs on under the parka and a full face ski mask.What was the temperature out side?</p>
<p>I just think these two guys saw somebody where they didn&#8217;t expect to and let their minds play games. Watch when He reaches up to knock a branch away. Probably some guy out checking his trap line. Didn&#8217;t even seem bothered by the approach of the vehicle.</p>
<p>I know we all want to see a real Bigfoot, but fellows, I just think that is what this guys drinking buddies call him.</p>
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		<title>By: treeclaw</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/update-man-bf/#comment-22093</link>
		<dc:creator>treeclaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, I am new to cryptomundo and this is my first post here.  Before posting a comment on this thread I'd like to present my position regarding the Sas.  I believe they are real creatures from the prehistoric age before humans existed.

As for this Manitoba film clip it's apparent the creature covers a great deal of ground in a very short time.  We can see it travels on two feet.  It has swinging arms and human like head. It does not surprise me there was as much camera shake given the level of surprise we experience when experiencing a bigfoot event.  However it deeply troubles me that it never occurred to these people to look down at the tracks this creature has left behind.  After all just about 99% of the evidence on this science is based on foot tracks.  But these people claim it never occurred to them look down.

Like I said I have trouble accepting this so called oversight.  I give this material only 25% chance of validity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I am new to cryptomundo and this is my first post here.  Before posting a comment on this thread I&#8217;d like to present my position regarding the Sas.  I believe they are real creatures from the prehistoric age before humans existed.</p>
<p>As for this Manitoba film clip it&#8217;s apparent the creature covers a great deal of ground in a very short time.  We can see it travels on two feet.  It has swinging arms and human like head. It does not surprise me there was as much camera shake given the level of surprise we experience when experiencing a bigfoot event.  However it deeply troubles me that it never occurred to these people to look down at the tracks this creature has left behind.  After all just about 99% of the evidence on this science is based on foot tracks.  But these people claim it never occurred to them look down.</p>
<p>Like I said I have trouble accepting this so called oversight.  I give this material only 25% chance of validity.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.  I'm DWA, and I'm hoping for a job in cryptozoology.

My question:  will becoming known as "The Manitoba Video Obsessive" be sufficient qualification?

Whoops, this isn't the CZ FAQ thread, is it...?

Just thought of another thing.

(No, that isn't Patty.)

After the video runs real time, they stick in a slowdown to virtual frame-by-frame speed.

Does that look more like:

1) Somebody who wants, really, to know what this thing is?

2) Somebody who is confident - at least at the time he did that - that what is on here isn't human?

or

3) Somebody who hoaxed it, and wants to give you the maximum opportunity to spot it?  And is utterly confident there is no way you will?

I know, I know.  Hoaxers work in mysterious ways.

Mysterious things show up on videos, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  I&#8217;m DWA, and I&#8217;m hoping for a job in cryptozoology.</p>
<p>My question:  will becoming known as &#8220;The Manitoba Video Obsessive&#8221; be sufficient qualification?</p>
<p>Whoops, this isn&#8217;t the CZ FAQ thread, is it&#8230;?</p>
<p>Just thought of another thing.</p>
<p>(No, that isn&#8217;t Patty.)</p>
<p>After the video runs real time, they stick in a slowdown to virtual frame-by-frame speed.</p>
<p>Does that look more like:</p>
<p>1) Somebody who wants, really, to know what this thing is?</p>
<p>2) Somebody who is confident - at least at the time he did that - that what is on here isn&#8217;t human?</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>3) Somebody who hoaxed it, and wants to give you the maximum opportunity to spot it?  And is utterly confident there is no way you will?</p>
<p>I know, I know.  Hoaxers work in mysterious ways.</p>
<p>Mysterious things show up on videos, too.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jchip:  don't be troubled at all.

That's what (they say) happened; they saw it crossing the road.  When the son got the camera, after first checking the whole field to make sure, he zoomed to the place they expected the animal to be.  You can see (he imagines) an instant of hesitation, around the moment the son says he can't see it, when he seems to be panning back toward the road, then, there it is.

The camera movement is one of the pluses for me; things happen on camera the way they say they happened in their heads.

If the father saw this thing crossing and thought it was that unusual, that starts to rule out, for me, the idea that these were two innocents getting hoaxed.  (In fact, panning straight where they did makes it almost impossible that they were hoaxed, unless they were telepaths.  :-D )  Either they were the hoaxers, or that thing is as unusual as it looks to me.

We aren't going to know until we hear more.  And I have to admit the sneaking feeling that when we hear more I'll roll my eyes.

But if we don't....hey, anybody want to run an expedition to Manitoba?  OK, you can bring your sas hunt gear...but I'm talking about finding this guy and making him talk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jchip:  don&#8217;t be troubled at all.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what (they say) happened; they saw it crossing the road.  When the son got the camera, after first checking the whole field to make sure, he zoomed to the place they expected the animal to be.  You can see (he imagines) an instant of hesitation, around the moment the son says he can&#8217;t see it, when he seems to be panning back toward the road, then, there it is.</p>
<p>The camera movement is one of the pluses for me; things happen on camera the way they say they happened in their heads.</p>
<p>If the father saw this thing crossing and thought it was that unusual, that starts to rule out, for me, the idea that these were two innocents getting hoaxed.  (In fact, panning straight where they did makes it almost impossible that they were hoaxed, unless they were telepaths.  <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> )  Either they were the hoaxers, or that thing is as unusual as it looks to me.</p>
<p>We aren&#8217;t going to know until we hear more.  And I have to admit the sneaking feeling that when we hear more I&#8217;ll roll my eyes.</p>
<p>But if we don&#8217;t&#8230;.hey, anybody want to run an expedition to Manitoba?  OK, you can bring your sas hunt gear&#8230;but I&#8217;m talking about finding this guy and making him talk!</p>
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		<title>By: jchip</title>
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		<dc:creator>jchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not going to say that I think its a hoax, but the thing I find most troubling is in the very beginning, before the camera zooms in to catch the figure on the other side of the knoll.  They had to have spotted this figure and thought it was something highly unusual from a very long distance off, if as was reported, the son had to climb in the back to grab the video camera.  That strikes me as suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to say that I think its a hoax, but the thing I find most troubling is in the very beginning, before the camera zooms in to catch the figure on the other side of the knoll.  They had to have spotted this figure and thought it was something highly unusual from a very long distance off, if as was reported, the son had to climb in the back to grab the video camera.  That strikes me as suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig:  somebody needs to encourage this guy, particularly if he's reacting to perceived scorn.

If he isn't hoaxing, and I still doubt that, he has something here.  If he could at least point some serious researchers to the site to measure that would be cool.

Keep us updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig:  somebody needs to encourage this guy, particularly if he&#8217;s reacting to perceived scorn.</p>
<p>If he isn&#8217;t hoaxing, and I still doubt that, he has something here.  If he could at least point some serious researchers to the site to measure that would be cool.</p>
<p>Keep us updated.</p>
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		<title>By: squatchwatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>squatchwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I have a question. Has this video and story been on any local news broadcasts? Don't you think that a reporter would have brought a little attention to this piece of evidence(even if alot of people don't believe in the squatch). I just thought that if a local news team went out there they would have maybe got some better shots of the local area. Or is Mr. Thomas not talking to them? Somebody please clue me in on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I have a question. Has this video and story been on any local news broadcasts? Don&#8217;t you think that a reporter would have brought a little attention to this piece of evidence(even if alot of people don&#8217;t believe in the squatch). I just thought that if a local news team went out there they would have maybe got some better shots of the local area. Or is Mr. Thomas not talking to them? Somebody please clue me in on this.</p>
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