Look, to state something blindingly obvious, this thing Al Gore invented has been a game changer in so many areas of human endeavor and knowledge, cryptozoology amongst them (I mean, we are here, aren’t we, on this site, for exactly that reason, aren’t we?) When you allow the population at large to post their extemporaneous impressions of their experiences with this creature, as you will find on the BFRO website, and others, and you claim to have an interest in this subject, AND you confess that you haven’t read those reports? (If you have, well, let us know that, and what you think of those reports) Sorry, you might as well raise a banner professing your willful ignorance. Well, really, you have. At that point, I too would not waste time to discuss that with you.

I know DWA reads those reports, and I’ve spent a goodly amount of my time parsing through those as well. As do scientists like Meldrum and Bindernagel. If you’d like to discuss the content of those, after you’ve read them, I’d love to do that. Until then, well, not much to discuss.

The sun is 45 million feet away.

The moon is across the street.

Water will kill you if it touches your skin! (Actually, I really hope you read this far!)

As WIC seems to think that I influence the evidence, simply by saying what the evidence is, thought I’d try it out!

The water thing is, I admit, a nasty trick. Don’t die of thirst, WIC!

The evidence is the evidence. I have read up, and know what it says.

To come here disagreeing with me is fine.

To disagree with me on that, however, is ignorant.

Sorry. Regardless what WIC thinks, I don’t make the rules on this planet. Nature does.

Bigfoot is a bit more generic than that. But point taken, on terminology.

I have a feeling that, like cougar moutain lion painter puma panther; like gray and timber wolf; like ringtail and cacomistle; like opossum and ‘possum….

….neither sasquatch or bigfoot is going anywhere. We may just have to live with it.

(Native cultures also have a host of other names we could try on for size, of course.)

Science is a female dog, ain’t it.

Meldrum and Bindernagel agree, down the line, with me; they have relevant scientific credentials and are applying them in spades….

AND WE’RE SUPPOSED TO LISTEN TO YOU!!?!?!?!!?!??!?!!??!?!?!

Go troll somewhere else.

Big tent here! Excluded is only:

Know-nothing scoffing.

Get up to speed, or ask intelligent questions (and no, I don’t like repeating myself over and over and over and over and over….only to get “feedback” like yours) …or get lost. This is a fun site, as long as people either understand science or come here wanting to learn about it.

Your disagreement with me is nothing, if it is not backed by evidence. It’s just ranting.

So cut it out. Butthurt has limits in the hard sciences.

And for the record I dont like coming here and treating people like they are a rube or blow them away. I just find it funny that you spend more time on here attacking peoples “lack of knowledge on bigfoot” and when someone asks you to please give examples of your research or anything else for that matter you just say “I’ve already done it, I’m not going to repeat myself, and if you wont go looking through the forums for it then you just dont want to know.”

Well if thats the case why don’t you just stop posting? You have obviously added any and everything you can of “scientific” value on the subject and since you won’t “waste your time” reposting any of it in other conversations you just sort of sit around and tell people how much less they know than you.

I guess I don’t see the point is all….unless asserting your internet dominance of the bigfoot forums allows you to feel like you are doing something important? And for the record THIS is why cryptozoology is looked at the way it is by a lot of people….people like you acting like an expert on something that hasn’t been proven to be real. (yeah yeah, science is plotting against bigfoot discovery, no one wants to see the truth, if you don’t know hes real we haven’t seen the evidence you have blah blah blah. figured I would save you some time.) And not only do you claim to have done all this scientific research and you know bigfoot is out there, you then belittle other peoples interests in the subject when they dont agree with your stance on it by telling them they simply dont know or care as much as you do. It’s just ridiculous. Anyway have a good day everyone!

“You claimed that your vast, encyclopedic knowledge simply could not be summarized.”

Let’s see you summarize your science education, one post. All of it. Go. Read it? Why would I?

One of the reasons people like you think there is no evidence is that you have not read it, and will not read it. (Found my stock paragraph yet? Shouldn’t take you too long. Hint: Michigan cougar. No spoilers, sorry. I need to see whether you have one iota of interest or just come here to sneer.)

You cannot understand how to deal with sighting reports unless you have read them. LOTS of them. That’s what my stock paragraph tells you to do (and it tells you where to look). You can tell that people like Ben Radford haven’t read them, because he summarizes all descriptions as “big dark and hairy.” Good job there, Ben! Those databases get compiled for a reason, and the reason is not to be unread. It is for the interested, the curious, the non-trolls (Mr. Fourth Season up there) to note the nuances of description, the consistencies in time, place and situation of sighting, in physical attributes and behavioral patterns of the observed subject, the high frequency and astounding coherence of the encounter literature. Astounding, that is, for something that people are randomly making up. (Not so astounding for a continent-wide conspiracy two or more centuries old. Betting on that?) Casual lies and wildcat hoaxes do not add up to a serious head start on the biology of a species, clearly a great ape, which is what the encounter literature is giving us here, if you care enough to read it.

One of the reasons crypto isn’t viewed as a hard science is that people get away with behavior here (Mr. Fourth Season up there) that isn’t tolerated in the other hard sciences. You simply wouldn’t get away with the kind of stuff you are saying here on a physics website. The knowledgeable would be telling you to go find something you are really interested in rather than coming here because you think you know it all, and can rip people and ideas from a position of zero (sorry, that’s what it is) knowledge.

(Watch how the response to this really shows what Meldrum and Bindernagel are dealing with.)

Stop telling me the zoological equivalent of “you know, physics is really God moving big magnets around.”

Show me you know something about this topic. You don’t show me that. Try to. Or at least be willing to learn from someone who does. That quote of yours up there, Fhqwhgads, is a freakin’ insult, tantamount to me slagging your correspondence-course physics “degree.” (Three months, was it? Quick!)

When a qualified scientist puts out two very readable books on a topic (and there are at least two other extremely readable ones out there …found that paragraph yet?), but people think, no, it’s more fun to condescend and act like everyone here is a rube and blow them away with what I don’t know….

….I lose interest.

And am. Patience too.

Somebody once asked me: why are you so patient with all the idiots you encounter there? Sorry, but that’s what they said. I can’t help it; I didn’t say anything to them. They just read the exchanges, and posed the question.

I wonder. Maybe crypto needs to start losing its patience with ignorance.

If you want me to respect what you think…DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

Common sense, I frequently see here, is uncommon.

You clearly don’t know much about this topic. Go ahead, try me.

Spouting, when you don’t know what you are talking about,

…IS trolling.

So stop it.

“I know things and you don’t because I have done “research” and if you don’t agree with my opinion on things you simply don’t care as much as I do or don’t know as much or are just silly and I will talk about how much of a waste of time you are instead of lending anything important to the conversation.”

Then someone else inevitably feeds him by pointing out common sense or something and then he jumps head first back into his. “If you were only as well informed as me you wouldn’t be saying such silly things, look at how enlightened I am blah blah blah blah blah.”

I mean I guess I have to give him credit for committing to such an arrogant rant post after post after post….for his sake I hope its all for fun and he doesn’t actually believe any of it.

Anyway that’s pretty much all I wanted to say, hate all you want or tell me how off topic this is or how I don’t know anything or ….whatever, it really isn’t important.