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	<title>Comments on: Sylvanic - What&#8217;s The Real Story on the Twelve Seconds of New Bigfoot Footage?</title>
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		<title>By: Sylense</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19276</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kaffie. Don't be sorry. These things should be checked out regardless of what people think it "might" be. I think it's just as important to investigate the "probable" hoaxes as it is to look into something that is supposed to be the "real" thing.

I'm actually disappointed in the Cryptomundo crew that a trip was taken to look at a dead dog by the road a while back, and the chance to look at new footage of a possible bigfoot was passed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kaffie. Don&#8217;t be sorry. These things should be checked out regardless of what people think it &#8220;might&#8221; be. I think it&#8217;s just as important to investigate the &#8220;probable&#8221; hoaxes as it is to look into something that is supposed to be the &#8220;real&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually disappointed in the Cryptomundo crew that a trip was taken to look at a dead dog by the road a while back, and the chance to look at new footage of a possible bigfoot was passed up.</p>
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		<title>By: calash</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19275</link>
		<dc:creator>calash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report Kaffie. Don’t be embarrassed! I was curious as to what was going to be “revealed” on Nov. 9. You obviously approached this with an open mind. Many people are too quick to dismiss claims such as this without knowing the motivations of the claimants. Hoaxers usually expose themselves in short order. What if someone on vacation in the wilderness does get good video of a genuine Bigfoot? If they believe that they will be met with ridicule and scorn they may just come to the conclusion that it’s not worth sharing. Better to welcome 100 hoaxers than cause a genuine case to never see the light of day.

On the plus side those who perpetrate a hoax have in effect performed a reverse inoculation on themselves. Any claims they try to make in the future will be held to a much higher standard due to their tainted past. Thanks again for your input.

Best regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report Kaffie. Don’t be embarrassed! I was curious as to what was going to be “revealed” on Nov. 9. You obviously approached this with an open mind. Many people are too quick to dismiss claims such as this without knowing the motivations of the claimants. Hoaxers usually expose themselves in short order. What if someone on vacation in the wilderness does get good video of a genuine Bigfoot? If they believe that they will be met with ridicule and scorn they may just come to the conclusion that it’s not worth sharing. Better to welcome 100 hoaxers than cause a genuine case to never see the light of day.</p>
<p>On the plus side those who perpetrate a hoax have in effect performed a reverse inoculation on themselves. Any claims they try to make in the future will be held to a much higher standard due to their tainted past. Thanks again for your input.</p>
<p>Best regards</p>
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		<title>By: kaffie</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19274</link>
		<dc:creator>kaffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I'm from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and I just got back from the showing of the "Sylvanic" film. It's fake. All of it, they made a lame Blair Witch movie and told everyone it was a real documentary. You watch it for the first 5 minutes, and it seems real, then they show some "footage " of a bunch of campers that went and it is poorly acted, edited and so on. They lied to all these websites and the newspaper The Edmonton Sun and they all fell for it. I am embarrassed that I fell for it as well. It is absolutely horrible that all these websites ended up getting this horrible fraud. This clearly is not good for Cryptozoology and will will no doubt set it back from from being taken seriously.  Please spread the word to other sites and try to forget this movie even existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I&#8217;m from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada and I just got back from the showing of the &#8220;Sylvanic&#8221; film. It&#8217;s fake. All of it, they made a lame Blair Witch movie and told everyone it was a real documentary. You watch it for the first 5 minutes, and it seems real, then they show some &#8220;footage &#8221; of a bunch of campers that went and it is poorly acted, edited and so on. They lied to all these websites and the newspaper The Edmonton Sun and they all fell for it. I am embarrassed that I fell for it as well. It is absolutely horrible that all these websites ended up getting this horrible fraud. This clearly is not good for Cryptozoology and will will no doubt set it back from from being taken seriously.  Please spread the word to other sites and try to forget this movie even existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Octavio Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19273</link>
		<dc:creator>Octavio Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I know that place ! Isn't it near Oceanic Island ?

I wonder who uses 16mm on vacation (even before digital video existed) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I know that place ! Isn&#8217;t it near Oceanic Island ?</p>
<p>I wonder who uses 16mm on vacation (even before digital video existed) ?</p>
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		<title>By: enjoyment</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19272</link>
		<dc:creator>enjoyment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! The first video's bigfoot vocalizations sounds alot like someone trying to start up a 4 stroke dirtbike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! The first video&#8217;s bigfoot vocalizations sounds alot like someone trying to start up a 4 stroke dirtbike.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawshank</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19271</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawshank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I like the idea that this guy doesn't know whether it's in the U.S. or in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I like the idea that this guy doesn&#8217;t know whether it&#8217;s in the U.S. or in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19270</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody find this valley on google earth?</description>
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		<title>By: BigNote</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19269</link>
		<dc:creator>BigNote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole thing strikes me as the sort of put-up job that bored high-school students might put together for the fun of it.  Note, for example, how young the girl in the first video sounds, Todd Standing's mangling of written English, and the unfortunate choice of name for the ostensible location.

The sounds in the first video are ludicrous and bear absolutely no relation to anything that might conceivably be uttered by a primate.  In the late eighties while backpacking in Northern California's Mendocino National Forest, I heard what after years of reflection I have only recently concluded was one or possibly two sasquatches.  What I heard sounded nothing like the sounds in the video and was in fact quite consistent with what we know of great ape behavior and vocalization.  (It was a series of grunting barks followed by slapping or thumping sounds as of something powerful striking a tree limb or trunk, these followed by two piercing yodel-scream-shrieks.)

As for the name "Sylvanic," it is so ridiculous and seemingly transparent that I am tempted to think that when Todd Standing refers to it as that used by "natives," what he means is that it's what the locals call it, and not that it has anything to do with Native Americans.  In fact, while I may be wrong in generalizing, my experience has been that most Canadians refer to Native Americans not as "Natives," but rather, as "First Nations," or "Cree," or "Kutchin," or "Inuit," or "Athabaskan," or what have you, depending upon the particular group referenced.  On the other hand, being no more than kids, maybe it really didn't occur to them that lots of people have at least a nodding familiarity with Latin.  (Speaking for myself, the name "Sylvanic" seemed so obvious that it did not even occur to me that it was being put forth as a native American place-name.)

The second video has the potential to be more convincing, but the fact that it's presented with the first pretty much botches the job.

Finally, the notion that there is an unexplored valley in the northern rockies that remains unknown due to peculiar magnetic properties, is manifestly one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile.  While there are places on the planet that have yet to be documented and surveyed on foot --parts of the eastern slope of the Andes and of Papua New Guinea are great examples-- it is no longer true that as in the past, there are large geological features, such as valleys, that we do not know about through satelite imagery and the array of technologies therein available.  Cut me a husk.

Again, my theory is that these are a group of bored high-school students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole thing strikes me as the sort of put-up job that bored high-school students might put together for the fun of it.  Note, for example, how young the girl in the first video sounds, Todd Standing&#8217;s mangling of written English, and the unfortunate choice of name for the ostensible location.</p>
<p>The sounds in the first video are ludicrous and bear absolutely no relation to anything that might conceivably be uttered by a primate.  In the late eighties while backpacking in Northern California&#8217;s Mendocino National Forest, I heard what after years of reflection I have only recently concluded was one or possibly two sasquatches.  What I heard sounded nothing like the sounds in the video and was in fact quite consistent with what we know of great ape behavior and vocalization.  (It was a series of grunting barks followed by slapping or thumping sounds as of something powerful striking a tree limb or trunk, these followed by two piercing yodel-scream-shrieks.)</p>
<p>As for the name &#8220;Sylvanic,&#8221; it is so ridiculous and seemingly transparent that I am tempted to think that when Todd Standing refers to it as that used by &#8220;natives,&#8221; what he means is that it&#8217;s what the locals call it, and not that it has anything to do with Native Americans.  In fact, while I may be wrong in generalizing, my experience has been that most Canadians refer to Native Americans not as &#8220;Natives,&#8221; but rather, as &#8220;First Nations,&#8221; or &#8220;Cree,&#8221; or &#8220;Kutchin,&#8221; or &#8220;Inuit,&#8221; or &#8220;Athabaskan,&#8221; or what have you, depending upon the particular group referenced.  On the other hand, being no more than kids, maybe it really didn&#8217;t occur to them that lots of people have at least a nodding familiarity with Latin.  (Speaking for myself, the name &#8220;Sylvanic&#8221; seemed so obvious that it did not even occur to me that it was being put forth as a native American place-name.)</p>
<p>The second video has the potential to be more convincing, but the fact that it&#8217;s presented with the first pretty much botches the job.</p>
<p>Finally, the notion that there is an unexplored valley in the northern rockies that remains unknown due to peculiar magnetic properties, is manifestly one of the stupidest things I&#8217;ve heard in awhile.  While there are places on the planet that have yet to be documented and surveyed on foot &#8211;parts of the eastern slope of the Andes and of Papua New Guinea are great examples&#8211; it is no longer true that as in the past, there are large geological features, such as valleys, that we do not know about through satelite imagery and the array of technologies therein available.  Cut me a husk.</p>
<p>Again, my theory is that these are a group of bored high-school students.</p>
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		<title>By: joppa</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19268</link>
		<dc:creator>joppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's see, the "Natives" call the area "Sylvanic".  Well first of all Mr. Standing is an immature racist. The "natives" !!!!!  His "Blair Witch" wannabe project is off to a poor start if he can't understand how offensive his language is. I believe that other commentators have already pointed out the linguistic problems of an area named "Sylvanic" causes. I would be more intrigued if the area had some Cree, Souix or Nez Perce name attached. I think I'll sit this debate out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, the &#8220;Natives&#8221; call the area &#8220;Sylvanic&#8221;.  Well first of all Mr. Standing is an immature racist. The &#8220;natives&#8221; !!!!!  His &#8220;Blair Witch&#8221; wannabe project is off to a poor start if he can&#8217;t understand how offensive his language is. I believe that other commentators have already pointed out the linguistic problems of an area named &#8220;Sylvanic&#8221; causes. I would be more intrigued if the area had some Cree, Souix or Nez Perce name attached. I think I&#8217;ll sit this debate out.</p>
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		<title>By: LeCope</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sylvanic-2/#comment-19267</link>
		<dc:creator>LeCope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something he mentions on his website doesn't make much sense to me.  Here is a quote,

"None of the 35mm still photographs or 16mm motion camera shots turned out. They where somehow overexposed in a way that no person I have met with can account for. The most plausible expert explanation I was given seems to be our film was exposed to some kind of strong magnetic field."

As I understand it, film is a chemical process, whereas digital would be more likely to be adversely affected by a "strong magnetic field".  Not that this really means anything in terms of Bigfoot, or sightings, but it might mean something about his "experts", and his “expert explanation”.  Surely his film could have been overexposed, but it's a HUGE jump to conclude that it was due to some kind of magnetic field.  This kind of conjecture makes the skeptic in me win over the believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something he mentions on his website doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me.  Here is a quote,</p>
<p>&#8220;None of the 35mm still photographs or 16mm motion camera shots turned out. They where somehow overexposed in a way that no person I have met with can account for. The most plausible expert explanation I was given seems to be our film was exposed to some kind of strong magnetic field.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I understand it, film is a chemical process, whereas digital would be more likely to be adversely affected by a &#8220;strong magnetic field&#8221;.  Not that this really means anything in terms of Bigfoot, or sightings, but it might mean something about his &#8220;experts&#8221;, and his “expert explanation”.  Surely his film could have been overexposed, but it&#8217;s a HUGE jump to conclude that it was due to some kind of magnetic field.  This kind of conjecture makes the skeptic in me win over the believer.</p>
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