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	<title>Comments on: Faking Bigfoot: Recreating The Laziest Bigfoot Hoax Of The Year</title>
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		<title>By: jan09</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/spokane-river-bigfoot-4/comment-page-1/#comment-70910</link>
		<dc:creator>jan09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not even of the opinion that this was an attempted hoax. I think it&#039;s likely to be a random stranger walking (stumbling?) through the area at that time. The uploader may have noticed the dark-dressed person in the background upon viewing the footage and cried &quot;bigfoot&quot; as a joke. I&#039;m not convinced any more effort than that went into it.

You can clearly see the pant cuff and shoes this person is wearing, so those few of you that still want to give this video serious consideration worry me a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even of the opinion that this was an attempted hoax. I think it&#8217;s likely to be a random stranger walking (stumbling?) through the area at that time. The uploader may have noticed the dark-dressed person in the background upon viewing the footage and cried &#8220;bigfoot&#8221; as a joke. I&#8217;m not convinced any more effort than that went into it.</p>
<p>You can clearly see the pant cuff and shoes this person is wearing, so those few of you that still want to give this video serious consideration worry me a little.</p>
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		<title>By: slappy</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/spokane-river-bigfoot-4/comment-page-1/#comment-70780</link>
		<dc:creator>slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[remember how science works. Science has to prove that the blobsquatch IS Bigfoot, because science assumes it is not. With that in mind, the original video serves as proof of absolutely noting other than there are shadows in the forest. Some people have to turn a more critical eye on so-called &quot;evidence&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember how science works. Science has to prove that the blobsquatch IS Bigfoot, because science assumes it is not. With that in mind, the original video serves as proof of absolutely noting other than there are shadows in the forest. Some people have to turn a more critical eye on so-called &#8220;evidence&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: thegsmiths4</title>
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		<dc:creator>thegsmiths4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@loopstheloop,

Please don&#039;t include me with the rubes.  I don&#039;t fall for all that stuff, I am just tired if seeing it.  I liked the video.  To me it&#039;s not just funny, but educational.

The only reason I still look at blobs, leafs and smudges is because with so many being posted these days, the odds are good that someday one may actually show something interesting.  But since the person is sincere, I fear they may post it quietly, hoping it will be stumbled upon,  because they are worried that if they publicize it they will be lumped in with all the bs artists out there.

@nopaosak,

I was just talking to a friend about how many out there forget that one of the steps of the scientific method is letting others look at your findings and see if they can validate or duplicate them.  Back in the 60&#039;s my father developed a theory in microbiology.  He told me the hardest part wasn&#039;t the discovery, but answering questions and defending it until it was accepted.  

Aside - We need more debate teams in school.  They would be great training for people with our interests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@loopstheloop,</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t include me with the rubes.  I don&#8217;t fall for all that stuff, I am just tired if seeing it.  I liked the video.  To me it&#8217;s not just funny, but educational.</p>
<p>The only reason I still look at blobs, leafs and smudges is because with so many being posted these days, the odds are good that someday one may actually show something interesting.  But since the person is sincere, I fear they may post it quietly, hoping it will be stumbled upon,  because they are worried that if they publicize it they will be lumped in with all the bs artists out there.</p>
<p>@nopaosak,</p>
<p>I was just talking to a friend about how many out there forget that one of the steps of the scientific method is letting others look at your findings and see if they can validate or duplicate them.  Back in the 60&#8242;s my father developed a theory in microbiology.  He told me the hardest part wasn&#8217;t the discovery, but answering questions and defending it until it was accepted.  </p>
<p>Aside &#8211; We need more debate teams in school.  They would be great training for people with our interests.</p>
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		<title>By: sasquatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>sasquatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because an animal is seen within city limits does not make it fake.

Remember last year when a mountain lion was running through Chicago?

Bears and coyotes and mountain lions make their way into Metro areas all the time.

A pair of coyotes were in the park right across the street from my house a couple months ago. Kids were out there flying kites, riding their bikes and everything!

I agree with many here that the original looks WAY better than the new one.

Not to say it&#039;s not a hoax either, but some pretty bad arguments here.

How many times have we heard about Bigfoot raiding dumpsters and trash cans right behind houses and businesses? Plenty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because an animal is seen within city limits does not make it fake.</p>
<p>Remember last year when a mountain lion was running through Chicago?</p>
<p>Bears and coyotes and mountain lions make their way into Metro areas all the time.</p>
<p>A pair of coyotes were in the park right across the street from my house a couple months ago. Kids were out there flying kites, riding their bikes and everything!</p>
<p>I agree with many here that the original looks WAY better than the new one.</p>
<p>Not to say it&#8217;s not a hoax either, but some pretty bad arguments here.</p>
<p>How many times have we heard about Bigfoot raiding dumpsters and trash cans right behind houses and businesses? Plenty.</p>
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		<title>By: shill</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/spokane-river-bigfoot-4/comment-page-1/#comment-70616</link>
		<dc:creator>shill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll throw in my two cents here too and thank Craig for posting this and for allowing the debate. I really enjoyed this &quot;experiment&quot; by Greg and Dana. WhoForted is fun site. And, yeah, you aren&#039;t going to agree with everything but discussing while remaining civil is a cool human behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll throw in my two cents here too and thank Craig for posting this and for allowing the debate. I really enjoyed this &#8220;experiment&#8221; by Greg and Dana. WhoForted is fun site. And, yeah, you aren&#8217;t going to agree with everything but discussing while remaining civil is a cool human behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Kahil Nettleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahil Nettleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He may have said that in the exclusive there, but we all saw what was shown on the show that aired.  They still concluded in the end that despite it easily could have been a human, that it was a bigfoot.  If this is a direct, creative edit by the production company, then I would suggest that Matt either deal with them as a lawyer would or just be more careful about what and how he says things.  He has every right to confront them as it is their direct actions in editing that diminishing any credibility that Matt and his team has.  

Again, as I have said before...for all I know, Matt is completely sincere in his search for bigfoot.  The issue is that while here and on camera he makes a lot of really bold claims and refuses to lend credence to those claims with evidence.  He really does need a PR person to act as a filter.  If someone only watched the show that airs and not any of these web exclusives (which are always different), then they see the same things I have been talking about here.  Show after show we have bold claims with no proof.  He has stated here and else where things that anyone using Google can see just aren&#039;t so.  He has backtracked or pulled complete 180s on things he has said.  I know he will probably come here and just call me a liar,try to insult me and try to discredit me, but that just isn&#039;t going to work as it isn&#039;t my credibility that is in question.

So far on the show, every sighting they investigate has been easily shown that it could have been a human...yet we still hear them saying that they are sure it is a bigfoot.  That is the issue at hand here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He may have said that in the exclusive there, but we all saw what was shown on the show that aired.  They still concluded in the end that despite it easily could have been a human, that it was a bigfoot.  If this is a direct, creative edit by the production company, then I would suggest that Matt either deal with them as a lawyer would or just be more careful about what and how he says things.  He has every right to confront them as it is their direct actions in editing that diminishing any credibility that Matt and his team has.  </p>
<p>Again, as I have said before&#8230;for all I know, Matt is completely sincere in his search for bigfoot.  The issue is that while here and on camera he makes a lot of really bold claims and refuses to lend credence to those claims with evidence.  He really does need a PR person to act as a filter.  If someone only watched the show that airs and not any of these web exclusives (which are always different), then they see the same things I have been talking about here.  Show after show we have bold claims with no proof.  He has stated here and else where things that anyone using Google can see just aren&#8217;t so.  He has backtracked or pulled complete 180s on things he has said.  I know he will probably come here and just call me a liar,try to insult me and try to discredit me, but that just isn&#8217;t going to work as it isn&#8217;t my credibility that is in question.</p>
<p>So far on the show, every sighting they investigate has been easily shown that it could have been a human&#8230;yet we still hear them saying that they are sure it is a bigfoot.  That is the issue at hand here.</p>
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		<title>By: nopaosak</title>
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		<dc:creator>nopaosak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I must say that after all of the recent brouhaha over the scientific value of cryptozoology you would think there would be a mindfulness of what it means to be scientific.  To be scientific is to not only use evidence to draw conclusions, but also to have those conclusions stand up to scrutiny.  I understand that if the original video of the unexplained blob got your heart racing it might be quite disappointing to have a couple of young people, who have been doing this for a very long time, make a video so similar that none of the naysayers can in any way qualify the differences between the Whoforted video and the original.  Not only can those differences not be explained, the posters do not have enough ability in the area of logic to start their posts with anything but personal attacks and ageist diminishing of Greg and Dana&#039;s expertise.  The truth remains that in a few moments these &quot;kids,&quot; who are married and contributing more to society than most of the members of the BFRO, showed without a doubt that the original video is most likely a hoax because of Occam&#039;s Razor.  It takes NO EXPERIENCE to look at a blob video and start screaming &quot;bigfoot.&quot;  It does however take a lot of experience and effort to shoot a duplicate video, logically examine the evidence and then come up with a conclusion based upon real investigation data and not just a gut reaction.  Mandors, you are not doing this hobby any favors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that after all of the recent brouhaha over the scientific value of cryptozoology you would think there would be a mindfulness of what it means to be scientific.  To be scientific is to not only use evidence to draw conclusions, but also to have those conclusions stand up to scrutiny.  I understand that if the original video of the unexplained blob got your heart racing it might be quite disappointing to have a couple of young people, who have been doing this for a very long time, make a video so similar that none of the naysayers can in any way qualify the differences between the Whoforted video and the original.  Not only can those differences not be explained, the posters do not have enough ability in the area of logic to start their posts with anything but personal attacks and ageist diminishing of Greg and Dana&#8217;s expertise.  The truth remains that in a few moments these &#8220;kids,&#8221; who are married and contributing more to society than most of the members of the BFRO, showed without a doubt that the original video is most likely a hoax because of Occam&#8217;s Razor.  It takes NO EXPERIENCE to look at a blob video and start screaming &#8220;bigfoot.&#8221;  It does however take a lot of experience and effort to shoot a duplicate video, logically examine the evidence and then come up with a conclusion based upon real investigation data and not just a gut reaction.  Mandors, you are not doing this hobby any favors.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As has been said before by me and others, the “Spokane Bigfoot” video could have easily been faked. They even showed just that on Finding Bigfoot, yet they still concluded that since it was of average human height, it must have been a juvenile bigfoot.&lt;cite&gt;Kahil Nettleton&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Kahil,

Regarding your comment above. Matt states quite clearly in this Finding Bigfoot Web Exclusive, posted previously &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/spokane-river-bigfoot-3/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here at Cryptomundo&lt;/a&gt;, that it is either a misidentification of a human, or a hoax.

&lt;iframe id=&quot;dit-video-embed&quot; width=&quot;640&quot; height=&quot;360&quot; src=&quot;http://static.discoverymedia.com/videos/components/apl/988862570d86bb3005de0dd2b50e0ba0656e4f62/snag-it-player.html?auto=no&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; allowtransparency=&quot;true&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As has been said before by me and others, the “Spokane Bigfoot” video could have easily been faked. They even showed just that on Finding Bigfoot, yet they still concluded that since it was of average human height, it must have been a juvenile bigfoot.<cite>Kahil Nettleton</cite></p></blockquote>
<p>Kahil,</p>
<p>Regarding your comment above. Matt states quite clearly in this Finding Bigfoot Web Exclusive, posted previously <a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/spokane-river-bigfoot-3/" rel="nofollow">here at Cryptomundo</a>, that it is either a misidentification of a human, or a hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: Redrose999</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redrose999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Kahli

I think you make an excellent point. But I also say, it was one of the worse hoaxes I&#039;ve seen in years. It didn&#039;t even attempt to hide the fact it was a gaff. Now, the Gilesuit hoax, that was brilliant, and worthy of sideshow history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kahli</p>
<p>I think you make an excellent point. But I also say, it was one of the worse hoaxes I&#8217;ve seen in years. It didn&#8217;t even attempt to hide the fact it was a gaff. Now, the Gilesuit hoax, that was brilliant, and worthy of sideshow history.</p>
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		<title>By: slappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry, but the folks here that are MORE convinced that the original is real have to be joking.

Look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?q=downriver+park&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=47.678334,-117.459297&amp;spn=0.015372,0.03695&amp;sll=47.712187,-117.473373&amp;sspn=0.030724,0.0739&amp;t=h&amp;z=15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the location&lt;/a&gt; of the original video and think again.

Of course I am sure I will hear 7984729384789236489 explanations as to why it makes sense for a bigfoot to be in this urban location. There&#039;s no convincing those who want to believe in something no matter what the evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but the folks here that are MORE convinced that the original is real have to be joking.</p>
<p>Look at <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=downriver+park&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=47.678334,-117.459297&amp;spn=0.015372,0.03695&amp;sll=47.712187,-117.473373&amp;sspn=0.030724,0.0739&amp;t=h&amp;z=15" rel="nofollow">the location</a> of the original video and think again.</p>
<p>Of course I am sure I will hear 7984729384789236489 explanations as to why it makes sense for a bigfoot to be in this urban location. There&#8217;s no convincing those who want to believe in something no matter what the evidence.</p>
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