Today’s breaking news: ‘Moneymaker dismisses video clip… declares NOT a bigfoot’.

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My posting not edited – I just was trying to keep my word count down. What I simply meant as my “tangent” was discussing a Platypus, not a Sasquatch or the TV show – apologies if I confused.

I know of no laws in Australia mentioning shooting at Yowies or giant lizards!

Yes, I agree. But I also feel Kahil has a point, we need a specimen, live or dead, something that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that BF exists. Science needs repeatable testable conditions to prove things, and I honestly feel a specimen to study would provide that. The other stuff can’t be repeatable predictably and consistently.

Hello there. I don’t know what you mean by going off on a tangent. Maybe your post was heavily edited? I don’t see any other writings of yours in this discussion. Nevertheless, thank you for the heads up about the proper name of the Platypus. I’ve heard the “Duck Billed” moniker ever since I was a kid, but come to think of it, the name is redundant (there are no non-duck-billed Platypi).

BTW: is it okay to shoot at Yowies in Australia, or Giant Lizards (Possible modern day Megalania/Great ripper lizards)?

In other words, I think the biggest problem is the human factor.

Politics always plays a part in what a scientist should research, and if he goes up against an accepted theory he/she has an up hill climb to prove that it may not apply to everything. It takes science a long time to accept an animal exists, especially say, if it was thought extinct, rather than just adapted to a different environment or life style to avoid humans. I would personally like to see science think of adaptation before thinking of extinction, when populations of certain animals start to become more elusive. But it’s hardly practical is it? Money wise, it is easier and cheaper to think the animal is gone. This is why we commonly see species previously thought as extinct popping up ie: the Buffalo in Canada.

Also, think about what they would need to do if they did prove say, we have big black cats in the Northeast, or hominids on the west coast? What would it do to the real estate or logging industries? Not only would it cost a great deal of money to prove these things exist, it would cost money to preserve them. The bureaucracy of science and the economy in general is often held hostage by who is willing to pay for it.

I am sure there are other reasons, I’m no expert here. But a lot of it comes to money, and the fact that exploration today is about money. Scientists in general is no longer a “gentlemen’s” field like it was in the past. Scientists and naturalists can’t fund their own expeditions, and it’s no longer lucrative to fund expeditions unless there is money to be made with them. In the past, there was always the hope for some kind of financial benefit with the explorations (ie England’s geological survey’s interest in Arctic and Antarctic expeditions), today it’s safer to stick with what we know and can guarantee pay back.

Apologies for going off at a tangent. Dunno why people use this extended description as a name – it’s just “Platypus”, and if you’re lucky (and living in Australia) you can see them active during the day proper, so they are not strictly nocturnal. Good description on Wikipedia.

I should have expanded on the fossil question when i wrote that post. I meant to put down that not only are some ape fossils difficult to find (Only recently have we found chimp fossils, and Gorilla fossils I believe are still void. Orangutan fossils are known in Asia, and with Giganto we only have jawbones and teeth, not the rest of the body, and therefore we don’t know for sure whether it walked upright or on all fours). And yes the Pacific Northwest is not a good place to have fossils, but we do find some there (Giant Black bear, scimitar toothed cat, etc) and it might not be before long before a squatch fossil is found there soon. Jeff Meldrum said that squatch fossils could potentially be found in the Pacific Northwest despite its acidic soils.

However, fossil evidence wont be counted as the smoking gun unless it includes lower body bones: As I’ve said already, Giganto is only known by jawbones and teeth. If you found Giganto remains in let’s say Alaska or Texas, it still wouldn’t convince the skeptics unless the fossils showed that it walked upright. I can imagine how they would say this…

Skeptic: So whut? Just Becuzz U have Giganto fussils in Amurica do not meen u huve pruuf of Bigfuut, Na na NAAAAAAAAH!

Almost like a baby’s cry…

So not only do we need the fossils, we need the proper fossils. And even then, some might wiggle their way out of the evidence by saying that, though the legend of Bigfoot is based on a real animal, there is no evidence to show it is still around, and that it is possible therefore that the modern phenomena is made up of mis-identification, toking out in the 60s (weed/shrooms/LSD) and hoaxing. Still, a fossil of a bipedal primate, after confirmed as legit, should sway most scientists (save for those with an almost religious anti-paranormal, anti-Crypto-zoology agenda, like those at the skeptical Inquirer).

One interesting thing about fossils: we have several fossil species of bipedal non-homo Sapien primates from Africa alone (Paranthropines, australopiths, “Homo Habilis”, etc) which in many ways resemble a small relative of Yeti, Squatch and other supposed giant hominids around the world. Also in Africa there are stories of small bipedal non-human apes covered in hair called Agogwe. Think about that…There is far more evidence for these “Littlefoots”, if you will, in terms of fossils, than any other wild undiscovered ape giants in the world…and yet Scientists would probably baulk at the idea of a surviving bipedal ape from that time.

Other than a body or a live specimen, what would it take to satisfy the Scientific community? It makes you wonder if even a body would satisfy them??? After all, at first scientists dismissed the duck Billed Platypus specimen brought to the western world’s attention, thinking it was a hoax.

They say the video was taken with an iPhone…well…iPhones do have decent cameras on them and the quality should have been better. That’s something that bothers me about all of the vids that come out anymore. We have all these great, high powered cameras and video recorders that take high quality images and videos….even our cell phones do. Yet all these people who claim to see one never take pictures or videos of it….and when they do, the quality is always poor.

You’d think that the BFRO would set up and sponsor trail cams in these areas that they claim to know bigfoot exists. That’s how we discover and rediscover species all of the time. So why not set up long term trail cams? You would think that they or someone would have done so by now. Especially at places like what was in the last episode where a that family claims they get nightly visits.

Just sayin….

Has anyone analyzed the figure’s reappearance at around the 52 second mark? It’s no longer running but walking. It doesn’t look like the “compliant” gait thing, but I’m no expert. Also, it seems to be uniform in color.