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		<title>By: thegsmiths4</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sanger-3/comment-page-1/#comment-70452</link>
		<dc:creator>thegsmiths4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the whole thing to be sad.

I don&#039;t think these guys are hoaxers.  There is a possibility that they did have squatch activity.  But that doesn&#039;t mean there weren&#039;t bears around.

If I understood correctly, their best evidence, besides the DNA is that they found signs of dermal ridges on the window.  The rest of the evidence, the way the smudges line up, etc is just circumstantial.  

I found that Koala bears have dermal ridges (looks very human), and polar bears have dermal bumps, but nothing so far on black bears.  So IF the dermal ridges are real, that&#039;s good - but not solid proof.

To say you know it wasn&#039;t a bear because it didn&#039;t get into the coolers is ludicrous. Just because most bears would do so does not mean all bears will.  What if the bear wasn&#039;t hungry enough to go through the hassle of climbing into the back?  Maybe that is why it looked in the window because it wanted to find easier pickings?

I feel sorry for these guys.  If the DNA comes back bear, they will be laughing stocks.

I&#039;m also mad at them.  If the DNA comes back bear, they will be used as another hammer by the press to bash the reputation of people who believe in sasquatch.

I hope for their sakes, not just for the discovery, that the DNA comes back squatch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the whole thing to be sad.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think these guys are hoaxers.  There is a possibility that they did have squatch activity.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean there weren&#8217;t bears around.</p>
<p>If I understood correctly, their best evidence, besides the DNA is that they found signs of dermal ridges on the window.  The rest of the evidence, the way the smudges line up, etc is just circumstantial.  </p>
<p>I found that Koala bears have dermal ridges (looks very human), and polar bears have dermal bumps, but nothing so far on black bears.  So IF the dermal ridges are real, that&#8217;s good &#8211; but not solid proof.</p>
<p>To say you know it wasn&#8217;t a bear because it didn&#8217;t get into the coolers is ludicrous. Just because most bears would do so does not mean all bears will.  What if the bear wasn&#8217;t hungry enough to go through the hassle of climbing into the back?  Maybe that is why it looked in the window because it wanted to find easier pickings?</p>
<p>I feel sorry for these guys.  If the DNA comes back bear, they will be laughing stocks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also mad at them.  If the DNA comes back bear, they will be used as another hammer by the press to bash the reputation of people who believe in sasquatch.</p>
<p>I hope for their sakes, not just for the discovery, that the DNA comes back squatch.</p>
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		<title>By: Cprahl</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sanger-3/comment-page-1/#comment-70360</link>
		<dc:creator>Cprahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nearly every thing this guy doing the narration said was not backed up in the video/photo evidence. He talked about trees with branches on them did you see a branch on that tree ? He said there was no tire marks leading up to the trees crossing the road I saw very clearly on their really cheap cameras tire marks right up to the tree in question. In all the video evidence of Bigfoot they have gotten in 8 years never did they ever consider buying a camera that could zoom in or film get a camera operater who knew how to focus in on the subject or hold the camera steady. Every evidence video looks likes it&#039;s being help by someone with the shakes. These guys call themselves researchers, you give them money and your throwing it away. They find a footprint and theres snow all around right but they find no other prints in the snow leading up to the truck !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly every thing this guy doing the narration said was not backed up in the video/photo evidence. He talked about trees with branches on them did you see a branch on that tree ? He said there was no tire marks leading up to the trees crossing the road I saw very clearly on their really cheap cameras tire marks right up to the tree in question. In all the video evidence of Bigfoot they have gotten in 8 years never did they ever consider buying a camera that could zoom in or film get a camera operater who knew how to focus in on the subject or hold the camera steady. Every evidence video looks likes it&#8217;s being help by someone with the shakes. These guys call themselves researchers, you give them money and your throwing it away. They find a footprint and theres snow all around right but they find no other prints in the snow leading up to the truck !</p>
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		<title>By: Hapa</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sanger-3/comment-page-1/#comment-70277</link>
		<dc:creator>Hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 04:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flame821:

Hellow :)

In &quot;Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science&quot;, Doctor Meldrum talked about meeting with a doctor Henner Fahrenbach, who has over a dozen suspected Sasquatch hairs that, while DNA analysis of at least some of the hairs has been unsuccessful (the others might be under analysis or also prone to analysis difficulty), they share a uniform set of morphological characteristics which point to an unknown species (and similar hairs were tested by another scientist, who said that they were most similar to Gorilla hairs, yet not gorilla). However, it seems no &quot;major impact&quot; or &quot;Definitive&quot; sample of DNA has so far not been found (Chapter 15, pages 261-271. He mentions again the indeterminable hair samples that share diagnostic-morphological characteristics on pages 275-276 of his book).    

It&#039;s not that DNA wasn&#039;t found, but that it wasn&#039;t good enough for a full fledged analysis. Having said that, I remember a net story about a Idaho museum based on his research that has hairs on display that have enough DNA in them to rule out most, if not all north American animals (if not more mammals), And he mentioned a well known Yeti hair sample that could not be sequenced, but which was ruled out as human, bear or anything else so far thought of (page 265).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flame821:</p>
<p>Hellow <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In &#8220;Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science&#8221;, Doctor Meldrum talked about meeting with a doctor Henner Fahrenbach, who has over a dozen suspected Sasquatch hairs that, while DNA analysis of at least some of the hairs has been unsuccessful (the others might be under analysis or also prone to analysis difficulty), they share a uniform set of morphological characteristics which point to an unknown species (and similar hairs were tested by another scientist, who said that they were most similar to Gorilla hairs, yet not gorilla). However, it seems no &#8220;major impact&#8221; or &#8220;Definitive&#8221; sample of DNA has so far not been found (Chapter 15, pages 261-271. He mentions again the indeterminable hair samples that share diagnostic-morphological characteristics on pages 275-276 of his book).    </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that DNA wasn&#8217;t found, but that it wasn&#8217;t good enough for a full fledged analysis. Having said that, I remember a net story about a Idaho museum based on his research that has hairs on display that have enough DNA in them to rule out most, if not all north American animals (if not more mammals), And he mentioned a well known Yeti hair sample that could not be sequenced, but which was ruled out as human, bear or anything else so far thought of (page 265).</p>
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		<title>By: flame821</title>
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		<dc:creator>flame821</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the reasons anomalous DNA gets ignored is because they cannot rule out contamination.  And science would rather throw the whole thing out than us a false positive as a baseline.

I do agree about cataloging and sequencing all the &#039;unknown&#039; or &#039;unspecified&#039; DNA results they have gathered from &#039;bigfoot&#039; samples.    I would be interested to know if there are any overlaps in any areas.  Anything we can start to whittle down into a sequence that can actually be used and documented for &#039;unknown mammal, Pacific North West&#039;  or something of that nature.

As for SPS; I think they are sincere but I also think this &#039;evidence&#039; does not rise to the level of excitement they are giving it.   Maybe it&#039;s confirmational  bias, maybe its wishful thinking, or maybe they just want so desperately to find &#039;something&#039; after all these years that they are going whole hog into &#039;it must be Bigfoot&#039;, much in the same way the fellow in the middle insists &#039;they MUST have gotten DNA&#039; and refuses to accept the possibility that there may be nothing there at all to test.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons anomalous DNA gets ignored is because they cannot rule out contamination.  And science would rather throw the whole thing out than us a false positive as a baseline.</p>
<p>I do agree about cataloging and sequencing all the &#8216;unknown&#8217; or &#8216;unspecified&#8217; DNA results they have gathered from &#8216;bigfoot&#8217; samples.    I would be interested to know if there are any overlaps in any areas.  Anything we can start to whittle down into a sequence that can actually be used and documented for &#8216;unknown mammal, Pacific North West&#8217;  or something of that nature.</p>
<p>As for SPS; I think they are sincere but I also think this &#8216;evidence&#8217; does not rise to the level of excitement they are giving it.   Maybe it&#8217;s confirmational  bias, maybe its wishful thinking, or maybe they just want so desperately to find &#8216;something&#8217; after all these years that they are going whole hog into &#8216;it must be Bigfoot&#8217;, much in the same way the fellow in the middle insists &#8216;they MUST have gotten DNA&#8217; and refuses to accept the possibility that there may be nothing there at all to test.</p>
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		<title>By: Hapa</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sanger-3/comment-page-1/#comment-70255</link>
		<dc:creator>Hapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The basic message of the press conference: We have DNA. HELP!!!

The images on the windows were interesting (though that one still looks like a mask) and the pics and vid of supposed Sasquatch was pretty fascinating (though the first may have been a Porcupine, and I see equally interesting vids on Star Trek Enterprise and the old Babylon 5). 

I rolled my eyes when they showed footprints first (and that one put on Cryptomundo still looks like a boot print over several bear prints. The prints in the press conference were better). 

As for DNA: Scientists, though claiming to be as such, ignore anomalous DNA readings attributed to Sasquatch. One would at least suspect that they would be at least curious as to what made the hairs with dd DNA readings to begin with and launch some investigations, but they treat the samples almost as if DNA can be faked. The only thing that might draw their attention from their self righteous skepticism thrones would be a mapping of the genome of anomalous hairs. Even then I wouldn&#039;t put it past them to try to explain it away as otter DNA fried by lightning (much like one in particular tries to use otters to explain away ALL lake monster, and perhaps (though not sure) even sea serpent sightings).

Once again, we need a body, live specimen, or bits and pieces of a specimen. Unlike what someone on here said earlier on a different thread, Video is not enough to prove anything: the alien autopsy footage hoax, Computer graphics, human ingenuity and Hollywood movie magic should show this clearly. I don&#039;t like killing animals to prove them either, but that is one of the definite ways of discovering new species, along with bringing in one alive (which could doom the animal to a Zoo or lab forever). And conservation work goes a whole longer way with species that are KNOWN to exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic message of the press conference: We have DNA. HELP!!!</p>
<p>The images on the windows were interesting (though that one still looks like a mask) and the pics and vid of supposed Sasquatch was pretty fascinating (though the first may have been a Porcupine, and I see equally interesting vids on Star Trek Enterprise and the old Babylon 5). </p>
<p>I rolled my eyes when they showed footprints first (and that one put on Cryptomundo still looks like a boot print over several bear prints. The prints in the press conference were better). </p>
<p>As for DNA: Scientists, though claiming to be as such, ignore anomalous DNA readings attributed to Sasquatch. One would at least suspect that they would be at least curious as to what made the hairs with dd DNA readings to begin with and launch some investigations, but they treat the samples almost as if DNA can be faked. The only thing that might draw their attention from their self righteous skepticism thrones would be a mapping of the genome of anomalous hairs. Even then I wouldn&#8217;t put it past them to try to explain it away as otter DNA fried by lightning (much like one in particular tries to use otters to explain away ALL lake monster, and perhaps (though not sure) even sea serpent sightings).</p>
<p>Once again, we need a body, live specimen, or bits and pieces of a specimen. Unlike what someone on here said earlier on a different thread, Video is not enough to prove anything: the alien autopsy footage hoax, Computer graphics, human ingenuity and Hollywood movie magic should show this clearly. I don&#8217;t like killing animals to prove them either, but that is one of the definite ways of discovering new species, along with bringing in one alive (which could doom the animal to a Zoo or lab forever). And conservation work goes a whole longer way with species that are KNOWN to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: bigfoots</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigfoots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A press conference? Really? For that?

LOL

The first 15 minutes of the video is staring at an open microphone.

The rest, well, pretty anti-climatic to say the least.

I&#039;m glad there are intelligent well spoken people who are doing research, but the conference was a bit much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A press conference? Really? For that?</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>The first 15 minutes of the video is staring at an open microphone.</p>
<p>The rest, well, pretty anti-climatic to say the least.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad there are intelligent well spoken people who are doing research, but the conference was a bit much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mïk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mïk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand what the showing of still photographs of Blobsquatches are going to do for their funding. Yes, the shadows are squatch-shaped but, unless the still has scads of detail, it&#039;s not going be considered evidence in this &#039;photo-shop&#039; age. As Mandors says, if you&#039;re going out for bigfoot, take good cameras, AND MEASURING DEVICES (a cell phone for reference? what model? what gen? sheesh.)

And a crypto-czar to fund things, Bobzilla? Good idea but, Who&#039;s gonna watch the watchers? I wouldn&#039;t want to fund shape-changers, no matter how Bigfooty it gets. Dr Jeff can be donated to, and Loren has an organization, along with Craig. There&#039;s donatin&#039; to be done. They would, at least have their rep to protect, unlike some &#039;Footers we won&#039;t mention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand what the showing of still photographs of Blobsquatches are going to do for their funding. Yes, the shadows are squatch-shaped but, unless the still has scads of detail, it&#8217;s not going be considered evidence in this &#8216;photo-shop&#8217; age. As Mandors says, if you&#8217;re going out for bigfoot, take good cameras, AND MEASURING DEVICES (a cell phone for reference? what model? what gen? sheesh.)</p>
<p>And a crypto-czar to fund things, Bobzilla? Good idea but, Who&#8217;s gonna watch the watchers? I wouldn&#8217;t want to fund shape-changers, no matter how Bigfooty it gets. Dr Jeff can be donated to, and Loren has an organization, along with Craig. There&#8217;s donatin&#8217; to be done. They would, at least have their rep to protect, unlike some &#8216;Footers we won&#8217;t mention.</p>
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		<title>By: RWRidley</title>
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		<dc:creator>RWRidley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t see a reason for the press conference either.  Their story and findings were mildly interesting, but fell well short of the greatest evidence ever found of bf.  The second imprint looked like nothing at all.  I just couldn&#039;t see what they wanted us to see.  The part about having possible DNA, but no funds to test it was strange.  Dr. Melba Ketchum labs lists prices for DNA testing that starts at $35.00.  What am I missing?  She is supposedly working on sequencing BF DNA for Erickson.  I know we&#039;re talking about an unknown animal here, but c&#039;mon, shouldn&#039;t you do tests to see if you even have DNA before you call a press conference?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see a reason for the press conference either.  Their story and findings were mildly interesting, but fell well short of the greatest evidence ever found of bf.  The second imprint looked like nothing at all.  I just couldn&#8217;t see what they wanted us to see.  The part about having possible DNA, but no funds to test it was strange.  Dr. Melba Ketchum labs lists prices for DNA testing that starts at $35.00.  What am I missing?  She is supposedly working on sequencing BF DNA for Erickson.  I know we&#8217;re talking about an unknown animal here, but c&#8217;mon, shouldn&#8217;t you do tests to see if you even have DNA before you call a press conference?</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/sanger-3/comment-page-1/#comment-70239</link>
		<dc:creator>bobzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it was interesting and looks like just a bunch of nice folks excited about what they found. I don&#039;t think it required a press conference, though.

From the video, I honestly could not see anything on the window but what looked like something running down the center (water, saliva?). Couldn&#039;t make out any face at all. Didn&#039;t look anything like the still that was posted here, but that could be from the fairly low res video of a video problem.

Too bad there wasn&#039;t some kind of &quot;crypto fund&quot; where people pay into it and if there&#039;s anyone needs funds for something like that, they have a place to go.

I wish them luck and look forward to the results.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was interesting and looks like just a bunch of nice folks excited about what they found. I don&#8217;t think it required a press conference, though.</p>
<p>From the video, I honestly could not see anything on the window but what looked like something running down the center (water, saliva?). Couldn&#8217;t make out any face at all. Didn&#8217;t look anything like the still that was posted here, but that could be from the fairly low res video of a video problem.</p>
<p>Too bad there wasn&#8217;t some kind of &#8220;crypto fund&#8221; where people pay into it and if there&#8217;s anyone needs funds for something like that, they have a place to go.</p>
<p>I wish them luck and look forward to the results.</p>
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		<title>By: lumbarjack03</title>
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		<dc:creator>lumbarjack03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While it may not be the most compelling evidence, it sure wasn&#039;t a sideshow attraction. I don&#039;t spend hours surfing through internet finding obscure videos, in fact much of the videos I see are mainly through this site or on youtube. My point is I think this was somewhat credible, they seemed reasonable and more often than not, this is how it happens, just happenstance. They aren&#039;t asking for money to make them rich. They mentioned a price for DNA testing, which I thought was reasonable, so instead of trashing it and placing it in the same realm as something that dude Biscardi or Moneymaker would hatch up, give pause and look at it objectively. The impression on the window could be anything, so let&#039;s rule out anything first, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it may not be the most compelling evidence, it sure wasn&#8217;t a sideshow attraction. I don&#8217;t spend hours surfing through internet finding obscure videos, in fact much of the videos I see are mainly through this site or on youtube. My point is I think this was somewhat credible, they seemed reasonable and more often than not, this is how it happens, just happenstance. They aren&#8217;t asking for money to make them rich. They mentioned a price for DNA testing, which I thought was reasonable, so instead of trashing it and placing it in the same realm as something that dude Biscardi or Moneymaker would hatch up, give pause and look at it objectively. The impression on the window could be anything, so let&#8217;s rule out anything first, right?</p>
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