Comments on: Pine Ridge Bigfoot Update

By: Jeremy_Wells

Jeremy_Wells — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 19:38:57 +0000

“If I were them I wouldn’t be telling anyone either the way the media along with the scientists want to take away and disect.”

With all due respect, the media aren’t interested in dissecting anything other than conflicting stories…
And, if you are opposed to dissection how do you suppose we verify the authenticity of this creature if a body is ever found? (or do you want BF to be verified as a flesh and blood creature deserving of state protections that other endangered species receive?)

By: shieldmaiden

shieldmaiden — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:30:49 +0000

After reading through all of these kind and amusing entries I decided there were a few things left unsaid.

Mr. Red Cloud is said to be an amputee and on a mission to a very important ceremony. The writer also states later that Mr. Red Cloud gets very winded after talking a wee bit. And that it couldn’t be Mr. Red Cloud ’smudging’ because the ceremony he was at was very important.

Finding a dead/shot Bigfoot isn’t important? I think that would take precedence over any other ceremony.

The Native Americans had fought long and hard to keep the skull of a ‘person’ here in Washington and Oregon. So how much more paramount would a ‘Bigfoot’ body be to them. This is part of their legend, Bigfoot?

If I were them I wouldn’t be telling anyone either the way the media along with the scientists want to take away and disect.

But on the other hand we have no body. Mr. Red Cloud was at one place where he might have stayed late for, so is said that he couldn’t have been at the site. We have Mr. Mesteht saying it is “…a bunch of boloney”. And that “…someone is making a practicle joke”.

I have to agree with him. But I only say that because there is no body, no concrete proof. Not because Red Cloud couldn’t be in two places in one day, because he could have. And not because Mr. Mesteth had said there is no body, because anyone can tell untruths.

I just need to see the concrete evidence first.

Not saying that I dont believe in Bigfoot, because I know for a fact he is out there.

By: Kit.Talich

Kit.Talich — Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:43:02 +0000

Hello all. I have recently came across this site via an article in the Rapid City Journal. I feel it important to tell you all that I just graduated from SDSM&T in May. I also feel that it is also important to inform you that the South Dakota School of Mines is an Engineering school. There is no form of autopsy lab. There is a small Biology department in the basement of one building. There is also a nice sized Paleontology department. While it is true that all fossils found in SD go here, living and recently deceased beings do not. It is more likely that Mr. Big Foot would have been sent to the University of South Dakota as they have an extensive Medical program.

Thank You

By: Mnynames

Mnynames — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 12:40:52 +0000

Agreed. The police sightings remain quite compelling.

By: sschaper

sschaper — Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:15:36 +0000

Yep, and Loren called it right away, too.

I’d just like to point out that just because it appears that the shooting was a hoax doesn’t say anything about the other sightings, including by law enforcement personnel.

By: bigsassy

bigsassy — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:57:58 +0000

Yes HowieYowie my gut feelings are sometimes wrong. And like I said they’re most likely wrong in this case. As more and more information comes out it does seem that someone was joking around. Now the credibility of a Pine Ridge bigfoot is shot. Pretty ironic. I like to debunk a hoax just as much as everyone else but I also like there to be a debate in order for all of the facts to come out. Enough said.

By: witko

witko — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 16:00:29 +0000

hau (hi). I am from porcupine on the pine ridge rez. I am also a distant cousin to donavon lone hill. I also believe there exists this entity in our Lakota territory.

Having read your chronology/timeline, I was surprised to see that your references were under represented. I would like to refer you also to the books titled: “in the spirit of crazy horse” (*1983) by Peter Matthiessen. *Matthiessen also wrote “Indian country” where there are also references to this “Bigfoot” or “Sasquatch” whatever you folks call him.

Another archival document from 1966, an out of print book called “Pute tiyospaye” (Lip’s Camp). This book was written by Lakota Students from the town of Wanblee, which is also on Pine Ridge. There, reference is made to the “Tall Man” which your website is referring to as “Telephone Man”.

By: Ole Bub

Ole Bub — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:25:40 +0000

Thank you Rozz….

I’m relieved…truth is…we are not apt to get the straight story….either way.

Lot’s of good sleuthing on this matter…we all know the capture and vaudeville debut of this wonderous creature will be accomplished by TB…

Too many folks with too much time on their hands…at least the Lakota have a name for the big folks…other than nuisance…JMHO

No Bucks…No bigfoot…

ole bub and the dawgs

By: rozz_b

rozz_b — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:12:57 +0000

I’d say the kids who started this rumor certaintly got their kicks… Too bad they didn’t do their research… The “people involved” are well known around the community, hence it would be likely for them to easily “use” their names in this (what I think) hoax. But what they didn’t know is that Mr. Mesteth and Mr. Red Cloud have both been recently preoccupied with the Bear Butte thing, so I can hardly imagine them dealing with the BF.

Also, SDSMT!? A small college in town? Yeah, I can really see a bunch of guys traveling from the rez to RC down St. Joe Street with a huge biped creature in the back trunk! And not being seen by some curious bypasser. The natives ALWAYS get stares by the townfolk… somebody would have noticed something even at night. And what about the stench, aren’t BFs supposed to stink… badly?

I don’t know… too much stuff (that I know at least) leans to HOAX!

By: rozz_b

rozz_b — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:37:54 +0000

Okay everybody,
I’m pretty sure I have evidence that this is all “baloney” (as Wilmer said). Or at least part of it isn’t true. As some of you may know, I live in Rapid City and I frequently travel back forth from RC to the rez (almost everyday for the past two weeks).

Anyway, I know that Mr. Red Cloud could not have been at the supposed scene of the shooting. He was at Bear Butte at around 4:30 PM that Tuesday August 1. I know because I was there doing some filming. He was speaking at the Gathering of Nations Campground to Protect Bear Butte. He still should have been there for the dinner that evening as well, (because he and others were signing a “Papel Bull”). How could he be there and then immediately be over “smudging” at Slim Buttes area? I’m pretty sure he still would have been at Bear Butte, because that day was one of the most important days. It is possible I guess if the incident happened late, late that night and he left right after I did (5:00PM).

But still… he is disabled and wheelchair bound. I just don’t see a man of his old age to be in one place and still have the energy to be smudging a dead BF miles away. After all, he gets very winded just after talking a few minutes. Anyway, I just thought you all might like to know these rather interesting new details. At least we know Mr. Red Cloud wasn’t involved…