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		<title>By: timmymaines</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, im from PA lived here my whole life im 21 from a town near state collage..back in i belive it was 2006 maybe 2005 i have seen something...not sure what it was i live near woods i walked about 20 mins away from my house one night around 12am too meet a friend as i was walkin down a road in the dark..there where bushes too the left of me. when i seen something run across the street in to the bushes..not sure what it was i didnt get a good look at it but it seem too stand too about my waist im 5&#039;11 so you can get a good idea... i tryed lookin in the bushes..but seen nothing i then heard a sound. sounded like a baby crying i started too look harder not knowing what to think..then that sounds came soo frighting and high pitch. i took off running toward light..and didnt stop until i got there..then i stayed in the light for probley an hour maybe longer scared and by myself..i started too walk home up over the hill avioding that area.. wondering where this friend was i was suppposed too meat my mind played tricks on me the whole way up the dark hill..as i took a path in the woods in stead of wasteing 30mins and walkin the whole way around. i got home and as soon as i open the door everyone was askin me whats wrong i was out of breath and was white as a ghost..they thought i was goin too pass out..i told them what i heard and they say we have cougars here in PA and thats what i seen that night im still unsure of that...but this is my story i live in clearfield PA in a small nieghborhood called hyde..if anyone knows where that is..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, im from PA lived here my whole life im 21 from a town near state collage..back in i belive it was 2006 maybe 2005 i have seen something&#8230;not sure what it was i live near woods i walked about 20 mins away from my house one night around 12am too meet a friend as i was walkin down a road in the dark..there where bushes too the left of me. when i seen something run across the street in to the bushes..not sure what it was i didnt get a good look at it but it seem too stand too about my waist im 5&#8242;11 so you can get a good idea&#8230; i tryed lookin in the bushes..but seen nothing i then heard a sound. sounded like a baby crying i started too look harder not knowing what to think..then that sounds came soo frighting and high pitch. i took off running toward light..and didnt stop until i got there..then i stayed in the light for probley an hour maybe longer scared and by myself..i started too walk home up over the hill avioding that area.. wondering where this friend was i was suppposed too meat my mind played tricks on me the whole way up the dark hill..as i took a path in the woods in stead of wasteing 30mins and walkin the whole way around. i got home and as soon as i open the door everyone was askin me whats wrong i was out of breath and was white as a ghost..they thought i was goin too pass out..i told them what i heard and they say we have cougars here in PA and thats what i seen that night im still unsure of that&#8230;but this is my story i live in clearfield PA in a small nieghborhood called hyde..if anyone knows where that is..</p>
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		<title>By: sstein44</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Saturday morning at about 5:30am my husband called me out back because he thought he saw something, I crabbed my binoculars to take a look.  We have a family of foxes living in the backyard, we then heard a loud cry, we heard this sound on Thursday but didn&#039;t know what it was.  We discovered it was one of the baby foxes, he ran and as he was being chased by something much larger.  The fox ran to the middle of the street and just made that horrible crying sound, he was facing the fox den at the time, I figured there had to be what ever chased him still there, I could not see because of the trees, so I stepped off the deck and bent down to see the large animal that chased him sitting at the fox den.  We have a 70lb dog and this animal was much larger, I looked through the binoculars and saw a mountain lion I saw him clear as day he turned &amp; looked at me I jumped up to go get the camera and he just jumped the rock wall &amp; took off.

My husband also saw him, he was something to see, since then we&#039;ve only seen the momma fox and 2 babies, I&#039;m hoping he didn&#039;t get the other 2 babies. My neighbor thought he saw a mountain lion last winter he took a picture of the print as well.  We live in northeastern PA in Honesdale there as been a lot of building going on in last 2 years I&#039;m sure the food source is becoming a problem for him.  I will continue to look for him &amp; needless to say I don&#039;t go outside without my camera. Since then I stay a little closer to the house with the dog at dawn &amp; dusk, I wouldn&#039;t want to take any chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Saturday morning at about 5:30am my husband called me out back because he thought he saw something, I crabbed my binoculars to take a look.  We have a family of foxes living in the backyard, we then heard a loud cry, we heard this sound on Thursday but didn&#8217;t know what it was.  We discovered it was one of the baby foxes, he ran and as he was being chased by something much larger.  The fox ran to the middle of the street and just made that horrible crying sound, he was facing the fox den at the time, I figured there had to be what ever chased him still there, I could not see because of the trees, so I stepped off the deck and bent down to see the large animal that chased him sitting at the fox den.  We have a 70lb dog and this animal was much larger, I looked through the binoculars and saw a mountain lion I saw him clear as day he turned &#038; looked at me I jumped up to go get the camera and he just jumped the rock wall &#038; took off.</p>
<p>My husband also saw him, he was something to see, since then we&#8217;ve only seen the momma fox and 2 babies, I&#8217;m hoping he didn&#8217;t get the other 2 babies. My neighbor thought he saw a mountain lion last winter he took a picture of the print as well.  We live in northeastern PA in Honesdale there as been a lot of building going on in last 2 years I&#8217;m sure the food source is becoming a problem for him.  I will continue to look for him &#038; needless to say I don&#8217;t go outside without my camera. Since then I stay a little closer to the house with the dog at dawn &#038; dusk, I wouldn&#8217;t want to take any chances.</p>
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		<title>By: starkken</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/pa-mtn-lions/comment-page-1/#comment-18967</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw definite Mountain Lion tracks while visiting Susquehanna County in 2004.  Not only a full grown lion prints, that were about the size of my Palm (excluding my fingers), but prints about half that size right along side of the larger prints.  Breeding population?  I doubt a bobcat would be walking side by side with an adult lion.  There was no mistaking what I saw were lion prints.  I have been a wildlife nut all my life and I know what I saw.  If there are any researchers interested, I would be happy to share some other interesting details that would surprise you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw definite Mountain Lion tracks while visiting Susquehanna County in 2004.  Not only a full grown lion prints, that were about the size of my Palm (excluding my fingers), but prints about half that size right along side of the larger prints.  Breeding population?  I doubt a bobcat would be walking side by side with an adult lion.  There was no mistaking what I saw were lion prints.  I have been a wildlife nut all my life and I know what I saw.  If there are any researchers interested, I would be happy to share some other interesting details that would surprise you.</p>
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		<title>By: epuma</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Within last week, Pennsylvania hunters have sent us data on mountain lions in Tioga, Sullivan, Cameron, Clinton &amp; Bedford Counties. 1 event from retired zoologist who saw a puma at less than 60 feet, watched as it jumped in leap from center yellow line of Rt 872 to top of embankment 25 feet away. Only a cougar is capable of that feat.

An adult black panther was seen in southern Bedford Co on Devilbliss Rd, Nov. 21st at 0715 hours by an Army captain just back from Iraqi. He shot a cougar in Colorado in 1999 &amp; knows what they and black cougars look like.

Southern Bedford Co. has verified reports of large BLACK panthers/pumas since 1920s based on multiple families in Allegheny Co, Md &amp; southern Bedford Co who owned 1,000s of acres on Wills &amp; Martin Mountains. In late 1980s, a BLACK panther paid visits to Chaneysville Cove School grounds, witnessed by law enforcement, 6 teachers &amp; 30 students, who have never forgotten those events.  YES, there are wild native cougars, mountain lions in several regions of the Keystone State.

Documentation exists of native cougars in Pennsylvania, which PGC refuses to acknowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Within last week, Pennsylvania hunters have sent us data on mountain lions in Tioga, Sullivan, Cameron, Clinton &amp; Bedford Counties. 1 event from retired zoologist who saw a puma at less than 60 feet, watched as it jumped in leap from center yellow line of Rt 872 to top of embankment 25 feet away. Only a cougar is capable of that feat.</p>
<p>An adult black panther was seen in southern Bedford Co on Devilbliss Rd, Nov. 21st at 0715 hours by an Army captain just back from Iraqi. He shot a cougar in Colorado in 1999 &amp; knows what they and black cougars look like.</p>
<p>Southern Bedford Co. has verified reports of large BLACK panthers/pumas since 1920s based on multiple families in Allegheny Co, Md &amp; southern Bedford Co who owned 1,000s of acres on Wills &amp; Martin Mountains. In late 1980s, a BLACK panther paid visits to Chaneysville Cove School grounds, witnessed by law enforcement, 6 teachers &amp; 30 students, who have never forgotten those events.  YES, there are wild native cougars, mountain lions in several regions of the Keystone State.</p>
<p>Documentation exists of native cougars in Pennsylvania, which PGC refuses to acknowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve related in other threads here, plenty of them in NJ too, and more than enough Deer for them to feast off of as well.

As for PA, let&#039;s not forget the multiple Mountain Lion sightings in Philadelphia in January of 1995.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve related in other threads here, plenty of them in NJ too, and more than enough Deer for them to feast off of as well.</p>
<p>As for PA, let&#8217;s not forget the multiple Mountain Lion sightings in Philadelphia in January of 1995.</p>
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		<title>By: shadowparks</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>believe it or not, we have actually had sightings here in good old Delaware.  I think where there are deer, you will find cougars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>believe it or not, we have actually had sightings here in good old Delaware.  I think where there are deer, you will find cougars</p>
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		<title>By: s1234w</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pennsylvania has a long history of mountain lions. In 1996, I seen one along a state game road. This lion could not be mistaken for a bobcat, the length of its tail was as long as its body. A lot bigger than my 85 pound dog at home. At that time I did not think they were around here but after I seen it my investigation started and found from good resources that they do roam here. My encounter happened in Lycoming Co. and at an area I know very well that if you want to hunt with out seeing anyone, you can do that all day. Their are books about early pioneers that would go out and track lion as long as a month at a time from the mid 1700&#039;s to around 1900 when they started to protect them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pennsylvania has a long history of mountain lions. In 1996, I seen one along a state game road. This lion could not be mistaken for a bobcat, the length of its tail was as long as its body. A lot bigger than my 85 pound dog at home. At that time I did not think they were around here but after I seen it my investigation started and found from good resources that they do roam here. My encounter happened in Lycoming Co. and at an area I know very well that if you want to hunt with out seeing anyone, you can do that all day. Their are books about early pioneers that would go out and track lion as long as a month at a time from the mid 1700&#8217;s to around 1900 when they started to protect them.</p>
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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joppa has a point.  I live in the Sierra Nevada mountain range of Northern California.  Right now we are being run over by mountain lions.  There are so many that some are even moving down into the larger cities, some have even been seen in downtown Los Angeles.  With that said, I have never seen a mountain lion on the side of the road.  In fact, in the 33 years I have been around, I have only seen 3 mountain lions, and 2 were together near my family&#039;s ranch.  The other one was walking through my back yard when I was around 10.  So, to say that if they aren&#039;t turning up roadkill they don&#039;t exist, that&#039;s stupid.  Just because the Florida cougars/pumas are too stupid to stay out of the road, doesn&#039;t mean any others are too.  Just remember folks, don&#039;t wear red (the &quot;officials&quot; just figured out that the cougars can see red and thinks it&#039;s blood).  Here is the true sign of a cougar, if you come upon a newly killed deer, still warm, and the predator hasn&#039;t had much time to munch away, but the heart is missing--that&#039;s a cougar right there.  They love the heart(s) of their prey and will usually eat that first.  I too hope that if/when any are found that they will be the original species that once roamed there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joppa has a point.  I live in the Sierra Nevada mountain range of Northern California.  Right now we are being run over by mountain lions.  There are so many that some are even moving down into the larger cities, some have even been seen in downtown Los Angeles.  With that said, I have never seen a mountain lion on the side of the road.  In fact, in the 33 years I have been around, I have only seen 3 mountain lions, and 2 were together near my family&#8217;s ranch.  The other one was walking through my back yard when I was around 10.  So, to say that if they aren&#8217;t turning up roadkill they don&#8217;t exist, that&#8217;s stupid.  Just because the Florida cougars/pumas are too stupid to stay out of the road, doesn&#8217;t mean any others are too.  Just remember folks, don&#8217;t wear red (the &#8220;officials&#8221; just figured out that the cougars can see red and thinks it&#8217;s blood).  Here is the true sign of a cougar, if you come upon a newly killed deer, still warm, and the predator hasn&#8217;t had much time to munch away, but the heart is missing&#8211;that&#8217;s a cougar right there.  They love the heart(s) of their prey and will usually eat that first.  I too hope that if/when any are found that they will be the original species that once roamed there.</p>
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		<title>By: oroblanco</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,
I must take issue with many points of this article, having lived in PA for many years (though I now reside in AZ) there seems to be quite a misconception of what PA is really like.

First, over half of the state is covered in forest lands.  Some of these areas were still &quot;fly in hunting&quot; hotspots like we see in Maine or Canada until relatively recent years.  There exists ample habitat for a large predator species, as well as game animals that they must subsist upon.  People who have never seen PA have the idea that it is all a giant, highly developed &quot;suburbia-land&quot; when in truth it has vast areas of highly UN-developed lands, which are home to good populations of wild animals.  (Why else would there be over one million deer hunters there every year?)

Second, the idea that PA has no legends of mystery animals is utterly false.  Long before I had ever heard of &quot;Bigfoot&quot; or knew what the term meant, local people knew of (and talked about quietly) what we would today describe as &quot;bigfoot&quot; in NE PA, and south of there was an even stranger type of man-creature called &quot;applesnitches&quot; or &quot;appletwitches&quot; - a type of bigfoot that stood four feet tall and habitually raided old apple orchards.  There are reports of encounters with huge bigfoot and the appletwitches in old newspapers, one of which is online (from Susquehanna county) somewhere.  Reports of sightings of &#039;thunderbirds&#039; in PA are quite numerous as well.  From the colonial period and early northwest, there were tales of encounters with huge maned lions, the last pair being killed in a cave in SE PA in the early 1800s. In my childhood, when I first started trapping there was also what were locally believed to be a subspecies of beaver that we trapped, called &quot;bank beaver&quot; which were NOT muskrats nor young ordinary beavers, but a smaller species that was less than half the size of adult beavers and which never built dams.  The teeth of these smaller beaver showed them to be NOT just immature ordinary beavers but mature animals. There were also &quot;brush wolves&quot; seen by many hunters, which some have proposed are coyotes but having seen (one) and examined the skins personally I cannot agree that these canids were coyotes but gray wolves.  I also personally witnessed three unknown creatures in a field one night, which to this day I have no idea what they were.  In fact there are so many different legends that I cannot hope to list them all here.

Then we come to the &quot;legends&quot; of mountain lions persisting in PA.  I have not ever seen one there personally, but have seen tracks (they are not difficult to discern in snow) that could not have been bobcats (far too large) but were large felines.  I don&#039;t know if anyone remembers it but there was a &#039;flap&#039; of sightings of what was called the &quot;Nicholson Tiger&quot; in and around the small town of Nicholson near where I formerly lived.  This cat was even caught by the local (Scranton) television crews on camera, when their station helicopter spotted it crossing a field behind West Nicholson.  Of course the talk on TV news (local) was that the animal was someone&#039;s escaped pet &#039;tiger&#039; (even though no one said it was striped) however I met and talked with one of the first persons to report sighting the animal, and he told me that what he saw was a big, tawny cat quietly stride across US route 92 in the early morning.  He was so shocked that he reported it, and of course the news personnel picked up the word &quot;tawny&quot; which they equated to &quot;tawny = tiger&quot; and it became a Tiger, when it was never a tiger but a large mountain lion.  Outside of the &quot;official&quot; records, I know of a mountain lion killed in Noxen at the local tannery in the early 1960s, one struck by a train a few years ago in western PA, one photographed on a porch of a house in Bradford county (a young one, not full grown) and of an incident where a mountain lion leaped onto a car, leaving scratch marks that were un-deniable. I personally hunted every year from the age of 12 on, and am convinced those mountains and ridges of NE and North Central PA have a small population of Felix Concolor that never was eliminated.  Black cougars seem to be fairly common among the reports too.

I now wish that I had collected all of the articles and reports that I have heard and seen over the years, including several incidents of mountain lions attacking livestock (even a horse killed in NE PA once, a vet examined the horse and stated it had been killed by a mountain lion) which could now be presented.  The fact that over a million hunters go into the field there every deer hunting season does NOT &quot;prove&quot; that unknown animals cannot exist there, in fact it is from hunters that many of the reports come!

If mountain lions were extirpated from PA as the official line goes, we should not have had reports of sightings and encounters that continue from the date of the last &quot;official&quot; kills to today.  I don&#039;t think it is possible to discern whether the eastern puma is different from the western puma, however we know that a small population of Florida pumas survived to now, and PA has a large region (again NE and NC) which could readily have served as a refuge for a remnant population.  If they were exterminated, it is also possible that wild cougars from Canada or New England could have spread into PA; as we see the moose population spreading southwards today.  Of course the skeptics say that any cougar found in PA or anywhere in the east (they are also spotted in New Jersey) MUST be an escaped &quot;pet&quot; - so we cannot prove these are a surviving population. However common sense will tell you that not only is it possible the cougars reported today are a surviving population, it is logical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,<br />
I must take issue with many points of this article, having lived in PA for many years (though I now reside in AZ) there seems to be quite a misconception of what PA is really like.</p>
<p>First, over half of the state is covered in forest lands.  Some of these areas were still &#8220;fly in hunting&#8221; hotspots like we see in Maine or Canada until relatively recent years.  There exists ample habitat for a large predator species, as well as game animals that they must subsist upon.  People who have never seen PA have the idea that it is all a giant, highly developed &#8220;suburbia-land&#8221; when in truth it has vast areas of highly UN-developed lands, which are home to good populations of wild animals.  (Why else would there be over one million deer hunters there every year?)</p>
<p>Second, the idea that PA has no legends of mystery animals is utterly false.  Long before I had ever heard of &#8220;Bigfoot&#8221; or knew what the term meant, local people knew of (and talked about quietly) what we would today describe as &#8220;bigfoot&#8221; in NE PA, and south of there was an even stranger type of man-creature called &#8220;applesnitches&#8221; or &#8220;appletwitches&#8221; &#8211; a type of bigfoot that stood four feet tall and habitually raided old apple orchards.  There are reports of encounters with huge bigfoot and the appletwitches in old newspapers, one of which is online (from Susquehanna county) somewhere.  Reports of sightings of &#8216;thunderbirds&#8217; in PA are quite numerous as well.  From the colonial period and early northwest, there were tales of encounters with huge maned lions, the last pair being killed in a cave in SE PA in the early 1800s. In my childhood, when I first started trapping there was also what were locally believed to be a subspecies of beaver that we trapped, called &#8220;bank beaver&#8221; which were NOT muskrats nor young ordinary beavers, but a smaller species that was less than half the size of adult beavers and which never built dams.  The teeth of these smaller beaver showed them to be NOT just immature ordinary beavers but mature animals. There were also &#8220;brush wolves&#8221; seen by many hunters, which some have proposed are coyotes but having seen (one) and examined the skins personally I cannot agree that these canids were coyotes but gray wolves.  I also personally witnessed three unknown creatures in a field one night, which to this day I have no idea what they were.  In fact there are so many different legends that I cannot hope to list them all here.</p>
<p>Then we come to the &#8220;legends&#8221; of mountain lions persisting in PA.  I have not ever seen one there personally, but have seen tracks (they are not difficult to discern in snow) that could not have been bobcats (far too large) but were large felines.  I don&#8217;t know if anyone remembers it but there was a &#8216;flap&#8217; of sightings of what was called the &#8220;Nicholson Tiger&#8221; in and around the small town of Nicholson near where I formerly lived.  This cat was even caught by the local (Scranton) television crews on camera, when their station helicopter spotted it crossing a field behind West Nicholson.  Of course the talk on TV news (local) was that the animal was someone&#8217;s escaped pet &#8216;tiger&#8217; (even though no one said it was striped) however I met and talked with one of the first persons to report sighting the animal, and he told me that what he saw was a big, tawny cat quietly stride across US route 92 in the early morning.  He was so shocked that he reported it, and of course the news personnel picked up the word &#8220;tawny&#8221; which they equated to &#8220;tawny = tiger&#8221; and it became a Tiger, when it was never a tiger but a large mountain lion.  Outside of the &#8220;official&#8221; records, I know of a mountain lion killed in Noxen at the local tannery in the early 1960s, one struck by a train a few years ago in western PA, one photographed on a porch of a house in Bradford county (a young one, not full grown) and of an incident where a mountain lion leaped onto a car, leaving scratch marks that were un-deniable. I personally hunted every year from the age of 12 on, and am convinced those mountains and ridges of NE and North Central PA have a small population of Felix Concolor that never was eliminated.  Black cougars seem to be fairly common among the reports too.</p>
<p>I now wish that I had collected all of the articles and reports that I have heard and seen over the years, including several incidents of mountain lions attacking livestock (even a horse killed in NE PA once, a vet examined the horse and stated it had been killed by a mountain lion) which could now be presented.  The fact that over a million hunters go into the field there every deer hunting season does NOT &#8220;prove&#8221; that unknown animals cannot exist there, in fact it is from hunters that many of the reports come!</p>
<p>If mountain lions were extirpated from PA as the official line goes, we should not have had reports of sightings and encounters that continue from the date of the last &#8220;official&#8221; kills to today.  I don&#8217;t think it is possible to discern whether the eastern puma is different from the western puma, however we know that a small population of Florida pumas survived to now, and PA has a large region (again NE and NC) which could readily have served as a refuge for a remnant population.  If they were exterminated, it is also possible that wild cougars from Canada or New England could have spread into PA; as we see the moose population spreading southwards today.  Of course the skeptics say that any cougar found in PA or anywhere in the east (they are also spotted in New Jersey) MUST be an escaped &#8220;pet&#8221; &#8211; so we cannot prove these are a surviving population. However common sense will tell you that not only is it possible the cougars reported today are a surviving population, it is logical.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Cassidy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw cougar tracks in Pennsylvania in 2003. I found them in Westmoreland County in six inches of snow. We tracked it a bit and I verified they were feline and not canine. As a professional naturalist, and a experienced park ranger from out west, I am very confident they were cougar tracks and a full grown adult at that.

Is it possible they were from a feral escapee? Yes, but whose to say? Cougars have been spotted in almost every state and province east of the Mississippi. In my opinion they do roam PA and KY, IN, OH, MO and MI. They have been spotted in Ontario and are living in Quebec, so New England is just as likely to have them as does the Appalachia and Smoky Mountain ranges. The main question in my mind - are they descended from Western cougars or reminant stock of Eastern panthers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw cougar tracks in Pennsylvania in 2003. I found them in Westmoreland County in six inches of snow. We tracked it a bit and I verified they were feline and not canine. As a professional naturalist, and a experienced park ranger from out west, I am very confident they were cougar tracks and a full grown adult at that.</p>
<p>Is it possible they were from a feral escapee? Yes, but whose to say? Cougars have been spotted in almost every state and province east of the Mississippi. In my opinion they do roam PA and KY, IN, OH, MO and MI. They have been spotted in Ontario and are living in Quebec, so New England is just as likely to have them as does the Appalachia and Smoky Mountain ranges. The main question in my mind &#8211; are they descended from Western cougars or reminant stock of Eastern panthers?</p>
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