Comments on: Oliver, the Once Bipedal Chimp

By: Mnynames

Mnynames — Sat, 20 May 2006 00:10:09 +0000

First off, I think thanks should be given to Craig for a continuing interest in a cryptozoological dead-end. So he’s not a man-ape…he was, and is, still interesting, and I’m very glad to see that somebody is still interested in him after the cryptozoological part of his story ended. Last thing I heard about him was that he might still be an unknown variety of chimp, perhaps a Bili. Has that been disproven too?

By: youcantryreachingme

youcantryreachingme — Wed, 17 May 2006 07:42:58 +0000

There is a huge article discussing neanderthals. If you jump down to the Almas section, you will find several links to some very detailed information about Zana and her offspring.

By: youcantryreachingme

youcantryreachingme — Wed, 17 May 2006 03:31:51 +0000

Mari in comment #1 asked about more information on Zana.

Here’s a lengthy article titled “Argosy Magazine, February 1971” that makes an interesting read.

By: cor2879

cor2879 — Sun, 14 May 2006 22:44:13 +0000

As far as Oliver goes, I’d say he was just a particularly intelligent chimp… just like you have particularly intelligent dogs and particularly dumb humans

By: cor2879

cor2879 — Sun, 14 May 2006 22:42:58 +0000

The story about Zana is very interesting. Hopefully someone will be able to come up with a photo of one of her offspring or grandchildren for us.

By: jjames1

jjames1 — Sat, 13 May 2006 15:41:27 +0000

Bill, the research has already been done. Oliver is a chimpanzee, pure and simple. An odd one, yes, but “just” a chimp.

By: bill green

bill green — Sat, 13 May 2006 11:54:35 +0000

hey craig & loren wow this is incredible oliver update & debate also great comments as well. yes i agree with you all oliver is a incredible rather looking creature i think he could be either a chimp or a gorilla defiently maybe a possibe hybrid. more research needs to done without harming oliver. good morning bill

By: shovethenos

shovethenos — Sat, 13 May 2006 09:11:54 +0000

Yeah, I’ll bet Zana (from the link above) was at least partial inspiration for Stalin’s secret projects to crossbreed men and apes:

And probably inspiration for similar US projects, which I believe are likely to exist.

By: YarriWarrior

YarriWarrior — Fri, 12 May 2006 22:49:31 +0000

I have a photo saved of one of Zana’s sons, I found it on the net some time ago.(can’t remember from exactly where) He does look a bit strange! Anybody else see that photo? Yarri

By: Ian Sallis

Ian Sallis — Fri, 12 May 2006 20:21:09 +0000

Oliver is an unusual animal. In fact he must have come from a remarkable species: as one of his kind picked up Albert Ostman and all his camping utensils and carried him for many miles. Only to hold poor Albert captive for a couple months.

Oliver has always been a chimp. His differences were greatly exaggerated. Including his upright walking.

The Explorer Blanford-Snell inspected him many years ago and reckoned a few of his facial charatersitcs were man made.

He was passed from one dodgey owner to the next. The whole lot of them, all exploited him, contrary to whatever they have claimed since. The lawyer may have been a bit of an exception, but he still ended up, caged, in a research laboratory.

In fact I thought when he got into PP he was starting to have a decent life be a shame if that turns sour as well.