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	<title>Comments on: Cryptomundian WVBotanist Offers Insight: Retired US Forest Service Ranger Claims Sasquatch is Real!</title>
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		<title>By: Opalman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-73054</link>
		<dc:creator>Opalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In another thread I give ample examples and reasons why the government would want to keep the subject of sasquatche’s existence within the realm of folklore. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/coverup/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is The Government Hiding Evidence Of Bigfoot?&lt;/a&gt;  

Recently I had a discussion with an individual who hinted at just that. The gentleman was a Ducks Unlimited executive type who has insisted on anonymity. As we know; Ducks Unlimited (DU hereafter), is a very successful, non-profit organization devoted to conservation and especially wetland and migratory route habitat conservation. DU has worked closely with both American and Canadian governments among others for a long time. They are the world’s leading organization of its kind and they have been active since the 1930’s.

The crux of our discussion was devoted to duck hunting and the wild outdoors etc, but almost in passing, for some reason; I mentioned that an ongoing area of interest of mine was armchair research and study of the sasquatch phenomena. Turns out he had recently had a similar discussion with one of his co-workers who said she had been privy to a conversation by one of the higher ups regarding how the bigfoot issue would be addressed after the cloak of secrecy was lifted, and what ramifications might lie ahead for DU. The individual; (we’ll call him Fred) indicated that off the record he believed, (he said he; “absolutely believed”) that the existence of sasquatch had already been validated by the U.S. Government, select museum scientists and geneticists, and that plans for announcing that fact were being made but also put off for as long as possible in order to assure the status quo on many fronts and interests remain; thereby minimizing disruption (Federal Parks, lumber industry, Endangered Species Act ramifications etc.) He also mentioned that the creature was being classified as simply a gorilla sub-species. Finally It became obvious to me he was experiencing remorse for talking as much as he did and I changed the subject; much to his approval.

I know… this is one of those ‘he said’—‘she said’, ‘I heard’ etc, etc., accounts and usually I keep this kind of story to myself—but I’m thinking that, in light of this thread, some of you might find its recounting interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In another thread I give ample examples and reasons why the government would want to keep the subject of sasquatche’s existence within the realm of folklore. <a href="http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/coverup/" rel="nofollow">Is The Government Hiding Evidence Of Bigfoot?</a>  </p>
<p>Recently I had a discussion with an individual who hinted at just that. The gentleman was a Ducks Unlimited executive type who has insisted on anonymity. As we know; Ducks Unlimited (DU hereafter), is a very successful, non-profit organization devoted to conservation and especially wetland and migratory route habitat conservation. DU has worked closely with both American and Canadian governments among others for a long time. They are the world’s leading organization of its kind and they have been active since the 1930’s.</p>
<p>The crux of our discussion was devoted to duck hunting and the wild outdoors etc, but almost in passing, for some reason; I mentioned that an ongoing area of interest of mine was armchair research and study of the sasquatch phenomena. Turns out he had recently had a similar discussion with one of his co-workers who said she had been privy to a conversation by one of the higher ups regarding how the bigfoot issue would be addressed after the cloak of secrecy was lifted, and what ramifications might lie ahead for DU. The individual; (we’ll call him Fred) indicated that off the record he believed, (he said he; “absolutely believed”) that the existence of sasquatch had already been validated by the U.S. Government, select museum scientists and geneticists, and that plans for announcing that fact were being made but also put off for as long as possible in order to assure the status quo on many fronts and interests remain; thereby minimizing disruption (Federal Parks, lumber industry, Endangered Species Act ramifications etc.) He also mentioned that the creature was being classified as simply a gorilla sub-species. Finally It became obvious to me he was experiencing remorse for talking as much as he did and I changed the subject; much to his approval.</p>
<p>I know… this is one of those ‘he said’—‘she said’, ‘I heard’ etc, etc., accounts and usually I keep this kind of story to myself—but I’m thinking that, in light of this thread, some of you might find its recounting interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72902</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then of course, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=29230&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there&#039;s this&lt;/a&gt;.

While I hold no brief for a Government wide conspiracy of any stripe, I could see local managers for local reasons stemming from local interests and local management &quot;policy&quot; to try to hush funny stuff.

(And this report shows how that might not be tenable for very long.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then of course, <a href="http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=29230" rel="nofollow">there&#8217;s this</a>.</p>
<p>While I hold no brief for a Government wide conspiracy of any stripe, I could see local managers for local reasons stemming from local interests and local management &#8220;policy&#8221; to try to hush funny stuff.</p>
<p>(And this report shows how that might not be tenable for very long.)</p>
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		<title>By: WVBotanist</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72863</link>
		<dc:creator>WVBotanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 17:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Surveyor,

I&#039;m not trying to misrepresent the details of how conservation banks work.  I was trying to present 

a) in original post:  an example of supression of existence of species in a particular area.

b) in my comment to your comment:  as a hypothetical, in the event that a NEW species were encountered, it would take a long time before any money could be made marketing credits.

By &#039;taking jurisdiction&#039; I meant of the species itself.  In some cases, as you probably know, that does, in fact, extend to land in the form a &#039;critical habitat&#039; designation.  But that choice of language is not as important as the point I was making - that a lot of effort and time would be required to go from documented observation through to the possibility of anyone marketing credits.

I know USFWS doesn&#039;t in and of itself market the credits or own the land.  But the conservation banking process requires USFWS oversight all along, from allowable credits for a given bank, to review of performance criteria for various restoration scenarios (thinking Scrub Jays, Indigo Snakes, and Sand Skinks here, my only 1st hand experience w/ Federal conservation banking for T&amp;Es)...

Again, I did&#039;t mean to misrepresent but condensed the detail in order to get to my opinion. 

Now, more to the details of the panther example:  I described one of several well-documented occurrences that fell OUTSIDE of the USFWS Recovery Plan&#039;s description of the Florida Panther&#039;s &#039;Approved&#039; range.  I say &#039;approved&#039; because that is the range referred to by the Recovery Plan, but many people are well aware that they actually exist in a much broader range.  

There is not money to be made in marketing habitat credits outside of that range.  Because none will be approved, under the current recovery plan.  There is, however, plenty of political reckoning and lawsuits to be avoided by NOT admitting that some of this area is part of the range of the panther.  For one thing, the Recovery Plan would have to be revised.  For another thing, 3rd party lawsuits, as previously mentioned, would be filed IF there existed public record documentation of the presence of the actual species, and the possibility of a &#039;take&#039;.  Because any citizen with enough knowledge and willpower could file suit against the USFWS for not complying with the Endangered Species Act.  This suit, to-date, could be potentially filed for past actions.  Additionally, the process could result in a pause of several years of other, associated federal actions (USACE wetland permitting, EPA/State joint NPDES permitting, etc) for land development (think large, planned communities here) proposals simply because a pending suit and the attendant research required on the part of USFWS, particularly in the context of questioning the existing Recovery Plan, would preclude the issuance of a Biological Opinion, under an ESA Section 7 consultation.  (It should be noted, as previously implied in my original posting, USFWS involvement in this geographical area is almost ALWAYS in the form of a Section 7 consultation, in association with other federal actions, namely Section 404 CWA permit issuance.)

For this reason, and this reason alone, the documented year-round presence of multiple Florida panthers AND young (implying more than simply &#039;panthers moving through&#039;) in an area far north of that prescribed within the USFWS Recovery Plan, was supressed.  And that was my whole point.

For an unknown species (in a hypothetical scenario, where a large, unknown primate might be walking the the woods of North America), I felt that your optimistic view of conservation banking and money-making by private landowners was stretch.  Land owner/developers and their subsidiary tier of LLCs generally don&#039;t take that long term of a view, in my experience.  Once design is begun, time is money.  I agree that portions of an area being considered for development that may be set aside and place under a banking instrument, whether for wetland credits or habitat for T&amp;Es, can generate additional dollars, but that is secondary to and almost always less than, the possible money to be made by residential or commercial development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surveyor,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to misrepresent the details of how conservation banks work.  I was trying to present </p>
<p>a) in original post:  an example of supression of existence of species in a particular area.</p>
<p>b) in my comment to your comment:  as a hypothetical, in the event that a NEW species were encountered, it would take a long time before any money could be made marketing credits.</p>
<p>By &#8216;taking jurisdiction&#8217; I meant of the species itself.  In some cases, as you probably know, that does, in fact, extend to land in the form a &#8216;critical habitat&#8217; designation.  But that choice of language is not as important as the point I was making &#8211; that a lot of effort and time would be required to go from documented observation through to the possibility of anyone marketing credits.</p>
<p>I know USFWS doesn&#8217;t in and of itself market the credits or own the land.  But the conservation banking process requires USFWS oversight all along, from allowable credits for a given bank, to review of performance criteria for various restoration scenarios (thinking Scrub Jays, Indigo Snakes, and Sand Skinks here, my only 1st hand experience w/ Federal conservation banking for T&amp;Es)&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, I did&#8217;t mean to misrepresent but condensed the detail in order to get to my opinion. </p>
<p>Now, more to the details of the panther example:  I described one of several well-documented occurrences that fell OUTSIDE of the USFWS Recovery Plan&#8217;s description of the Florida Panther&#8217;s &#8216;Approved&#8217; range.  I say &#8216;approved&#8217; because that is the range referred to by the Recovery Plan, but many people are well aware that they actually exist in a much broader range.  </p>
<p>There is not money to be made in marketing habitat credits outside of that range.  Because none will be approved, under the current recovery plan.  There is, however, plenty of political reckoning and lawsuits to be avoided by NOT admitting that some of this area is part of the range of the panther.  For one thing, the Recovery Plan would have to be revised.  For another thing, 3rd party lawsuits, as previously mentioned, would be filed IF there existed public record documentation of the presence of the actual species, and the possibility of a &#8216;take&#8217;.  Because any citizen with enough knowledge and willpower could file suit against the USFWS for not complying with the Endangered Species Act.  This suit, to-date, could be potentially filed for past actions.  Additionally, the process could result in a pause of several years of other, associated federal actions (USACE wetland permitting, EPA/State joint NPDES permitting, etc) for land development (think large, planned communities here) proposals simply because a pending suit and the attendant research required on the part of USFWS, particularly in the context of questioning the existing Recovery Plan, would preclude the issuance of a Biological Opinion, under an ESA Section 7 consultation.  (It should be noted, as previously implied in my original posting, USFWS involvement in this geographical area is almost ALWAYS in the form of a Section 7 consultation, in association with other federal actions, namely Section 404 CWA permit issuance.)</p>
<p>For this reason, and this reason alone, the documented year-round presence of multiple Florida panthers AND young (implying more than simply &#8216;panthers moving through&#8217;) in an area far north of that prescribed within the USFWS Recovery Plan, was supressed.  And that was my whole point.</p>
<p>For an unknown species (in a hypothetical scenario, where a large, unknown primate might be walking the the woods of North America), I felt that your optimistic view of conservation banking and money-making by private landowners was stretch.  Land owner/developers and their subsidiary tier of LLCs generally don&#8217;t take that long term of a view, in my experience.  Once design is begun, time is money.  I agree that portions of an area being considered for development that may be set aside and place under a banking instrument, whether for wetland credits or habitat for T&amp;Es, can generate additional dollars, but that is secondary to and almost always less than, the possible money to be made by residential or commercial development.</p>
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		<title>By: Surveyor</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72859</link>
		<dc:creator>Surveyor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 22:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just consider that in order for USFWS to take jurisdiction AND develop, manage, market, and preserve via trust any type of habitat, there is a long series of actions that must happen, starting off with the designation of the species status (literal act of Congress), followed by years of semi-scientific pursuit of species profiling and habitat accounting (identifying the need more clearly) while happening in concert with an existing protection plan or developed in parallel with the protection plan, which has its own bureaucratic timeline. Then you are ready to pursue land acquisition… etc. At best it is a lengthy process which surpasses the short-term goals of most middle-managers and administrators in FWS.&quot;

The USFWS does not own, take jurisdiction, develop, market, preserve, or acquire any land for the purpose of conservation banking.  As I said in my initial comment, it is set up to be a purely private, for-profit endeavor.  I mentioned it to counter the arguments about government coverups about hiding the presence of endangered fauna and flora so that land could be developed or used for timber harvesting, oil exploration, etc., by showing that the government has created very profitable alternatives to offset the destruction and impact of these habitats.

As I also mentioned in my original comment, each conservation bank can only serve areas impacted within a certain &quot;service area&quot;, which means that there is no risk of, say, spotted owls from Washington being relocated to Florida.

Prior to the bank being placed in the public trust or transferred to a non-profit organization (Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy, etc.), after all of the credits have been sold, a portion of the profits must have been placed in an interest-bearing trust account in an amount such that the maintenance for the bank can be carried out perpetually with these funds.  Therefore, it is obvious that government funding for the conservation bank will not be an issue.

Here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fws.gov/endangered/landowners/conservation-banking.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a link&lt;/a&gt; to the USFWS page on conservation banking.

Here is their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fws.gov/endangered/esa-library/pdf/conservation_banking.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;official publication&lt;/a&gt; on conservation banking in .pdf format.

Trust me, this has been a part of my job for quite some time as a private development consultant.  There is money to be made if endangered species are on land that may be impacted by development or growth.  It makes no sense financially for the government to cover it up, since they wind up with more land in the end and don&#039;t even have to pay for the upkeep and maintenance of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just consider that in order for USFWS to take jurisdiction AND develop, manage, market, and preserve via trust any type of habitat, there is a long series of actions that must happen, starting off with the designation of the species status (literal act of Congress), followed by years of semi-scientific pursuit of species profiling and habitat accounting (identifying the need more clearly) while happening in concert with an existing protection plan or developed in parallel with the protection plan, which has its own bureaucratic timeline. Then you are ready to pursue land acquisition… etc. At best it is a lengthy process which surpasses the short-term goals of most middle-managers and administrators in FWS.&#8221;</p>
<p>The USFWS does not own, take jurisdiction, develop, market, preserve, or acquire any land for the purpose of conservation banking.  As I said in my initial comment, it is set up to be a purely private, for-profit endeavor.  I mentioned it to counter the arguments about government coverups about hiding the presence of endangered fauna and flora so that land could be developed or used for timber harvesting, oil exploration, etc., by showing that the government has created very profitable alternatives to offset the destruction and impact of these habitats.</p>
<p>As I also mentioned in my original comment, each conservation bank can only serve areas impacted within a certain &#8220;service area&#8221;, which means that there is no risk of, say, spotted owls from Washington being relocated to Florida.</p>
<p>Prior to the bank being placed in the public trust or transferred to a non-profit organization (Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy, etc.), after all of the credits have been sold, a portion of the profits must have been placed in an interest-bearing trust account in an amount such that the maintenance for the bank can be carried out perpetually with these funds.  Therefore, it is obvious that government funding for the conservation bank will not be an issue.</p>
<p>Here is <a href="http://www.fws.gov/endangered/landowners/conservation-banking.html" rel="nofollow">a link</a> to the USFWS page on conservation banking.</p>
<p>Here is their <a href="http://www.fws.gov/endangered/esa-library/pdf/conservation_banking.pdf" rel="nofollow">official publication</a> on conservation banking in .pdf format.</p>
<p>Trust me, this has been a part of my job for quite some time as a private development consultant.  There is money to be made if endangered species are on land that may be impacted by development or growth.  It makes no sense financially for the government to cover it up, since they wind up with more land in the end and don&#8217;t even have to pay for the upkeep and maintenance of it.</p>
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		<title>By: WVBotanist</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72851</link>
		<dc:creator>WVBotanist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All, I had originally submitted this as a comment on the &quot;Retired US Forest Service...&quot; article.  And I have to agree with jimlyding about the replacement of &quot;DOI&quot; with the appropriate Ag Department, when referring to the Forest Service.  I worked closely with Forest Service Rangers AND DOI National Parks Rangers when I was a DOI scientist...

And that make my example a bit less relevant that intended, but still relevant, simply as an example.

Supression of species distribution happens often in the case of Federal actions or Federal agency review of proposed actions, under the National Environmental Policy Act.  It dont mean to imply that it happens as large conspiracies, to conceal information regarding presence/absence, so much as it happens through a series of accidents, acts of incompetence, small conspiracies, careful presentation of data to avoid regulatory triggers in the NEPA process, and, of course, real, individual conspiracies to suppress data regarding presence of know species via stamping it &#039;unauthenticated&#039; simply because they agencies are not prepared to deal with the political repercussions.

Im not suggesting that this is exactly what happened in the case mentioned by the retired Forest Service Ranger. In many ways, his story sounds much more intriguing.  I simply meant to point out that you can&#039;t rely on any Federal agencies to have accurate information regarding species distribution, for a number of reasons, and sometimes that is intentional on the part of the agency.

As far as funding for the agencies goes, and the tie-in with conservation banking, I have a lot of opinions on that based on continuing experience, but I&#039;m not sure that would fit into this forum.  Just consider that in order for USFWS to take jurisdiction AND develop, manage, market, and preserve via trust any type of habitat, there is a long series of actions that must happen, starting off with the designation of the species status (literal act of Congress), followed by years of semi-scientific pursuit of species profiling and habitat accounting (identifying the need more clearly) while happening in concert with an existing protection plan or developed in parallel with the protection plan, which has its own bureaucratic timeline.  Then you are ready to pursue land acquisition... etc.  At best it is a lengthy process which surpasses the short-term goals of most middle-managers and administrators in FWS.  

At worst, unmanaged information, verified occurrences of  protected species outside of anticipated ranges, or worse yet, &#039;takings&#039; in areas where the species was not &#039;known&#039; to exist - then you have grounds for a 3rd party such as Sierra Club, etc to file suit against the Feds.  That is what they fear, that is what drives their public and private policies alike, moreso than legislation.  Think of legislation as the bones of their mission, and the fear of 3rd party lawsuits and the chance at late-career appointments as the meat and animation, respectively.

Yes, I know it is a cynical viewpoint.  And not universally applicable.  But definitely based in reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All, I had originally submitted this as a comment on the &#8220;Retired US Forest Service&#8230;&#8221; article.  And I have to agree with jimlyding about the replacement of &#8220;DOI&#8221; with the appropriate Ag Department, when referring to the Forest Service.  I worked closely with Forest Service Rangers AND DOI National Parks Rangers when I was a DOI scientist&#8230;</p>
<p>And that make my example a bit less relevant that intended, but still relevant, simply as an example.</p>
<p>Supression of species distribution happens often in the case of Federal actions or Federal agency review of proposed actions, under the National Environmental Policy Act.  It dont mean to imply that it happens as large conspiracies, to conceal information regarding presence/absence, so much as it happens through a series of accidents, acts of incompetence, small conspiracies, careful presentation of data to avoid regulatory triggers in the NEPA process, and, of course, real, individual conspiracies to suppress data regarding presence of know species via stamping it &#8216;unauthenticated&#8217; simply because they agencies are not prepared to deal with the political repercussions.</p>
<p>Im not suggesting that this is exactly what happened in the case mentioned by the retired Forest Service Ranger. In many ways, his story sounds much more intriguing.  I simply meant to point out that you can&#8217;t rely on any Federal agencies to have accurate information regarding species distribution, for a number of reasons, and sometimes that is intentional on the part of the agency.</p>
<p>As far as funding for the agencies goes, and the tie-in with conservation banking, I have a lot of opinions on that based on continuing experience, but I&#8217;m not sure that would fit into this forum.  Just consider that in order for USFWS to take jurisdiction AND develop, manage, market, and preserve via trust any type of habitat, there is a long series of actions that must happen, starting off with the designation of the species status (literal act of Congress), followed by years of semi-scientific pursuit of species profiling and habitat accounting (identifying the need more clearly) while happening in concert with an existing protection plan or developed in parallel with the protection plan, which has its own bureaucratic timeline.  Then you are ready to pursue land acquisition&#8230; etc.  At best it is a lengthy process which surpasses the short-term goals of most middle-managers and administrators in FWS.  </p>
<p>At worst, unmanaged information, verified occurrences of  protected species outside of anticipated ranges, or worse yet, &#8216;takings&#8217; in areas where the species was not &#8216;known&#8217; to exist &#8211; then you have grounds for a 3rd party such as Sierra Club, etc to file suit against the Feds.  That is what they fear, that is what drives their public and private policies alike, moreso than legislation.  Think of legislation as the bones of their mission, and the fear of 3rd party lawsuits and the chance at late-career appointments as the meat and animation, respectively.</p>
<p>Yes, I know it is a cynical viewpoint.  And not universally applicable.  But definitely based in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: jimlyding</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimlyding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 04:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the Department of Agriculture which the National Forest Service is actually part of rather than the Department of Interior?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Department of Agriculture which the National Forest Service is actually part of rather than the Department of Interior?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Sasquatch Up Close!

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<p>I corrected the video embed.</p>
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		<title>By: Surveyor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surveyor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a 2 sided coin. There are big $ in conservation banking, which was created by the USFWS as a for profit incentive to preserve endangered species &amp; habitats.  In conservation banking, a large area of private land is set aside and restored to pristine condition (wetland,etc., but usually several different ecosystems).  Then credits for the new &quot;bank&quot; are determined by the USFWS for each ecosystem or species. The credits are then sold at a high price to developers or others who wish to impact land of that particular ecosystem within that bank&#039;s service area.  As far as endangered animal species goes, the USFWS determines in advance how many of each species the bank can support, &amp; impacted species are relocated there for a fee.  When all of the credits are sold &amp; species slots are full, the bank is given over to public or non profit trust forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a 2 sided coin. There are big $ in conservation banking, which was created by the USFWS as a for profit incentive to preserve endangered species &amp; habitats.  In conservation banking, a large area of private land is set aside and restored to pristine condition (wetland,etc., but usually several different ecosystems).  Then credits for the new &#8220;bank&#8221; are determined by the USFWS for each ecosystem or species. The credits are then sold at a high price to developers or others who wish to impact land of that particular ecosystem within that bank&#8217;s service area.  As far as endangered animal species goes, the USFWS determines in advance how many of each species the bank can support, &amp; impacted species are relocated there for a fee.  When all of the credits are sold &amp; species slots are full, the bank is given over to public or non profit trust forever.</p>
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		<title>By: PhotoExpert</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72799</link>
		<dc:creator>PhotoExpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DWA--I could not agree with you more. I have nothing to add because you said exactly what I am thinking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DWA&#8211;I could not agree with you more. I have nothing to add because you said exactly what I am thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: midwest mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/oklahoma-bigfoot-2/comment-page-1/#comment-72796</link>
		<dc:creator>midwest mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect (my  husband is from WV), I understand the economic realities of acknowleging the existence of species which might undermine housing developments, mining etc. That said, many Bigfoot sightings are in remote areas which have no foreseeable economic, etc. value.  Quite simply, I find it hard to believe that DOI or any other federal agency which lives and dies by its federal budget and is starving for publicity would bury (literally) what is arguably the biggest new species discovery in the past century.  Doesn&#039;t make sense.  I&#039;m no Pollyanna when it comes to believing the feds keep secrets (I still thing there&#039;s an alien body or two in  a storage closet at Wright Pat), but this gentleman&#039;s claims are just too conspiratorial for my taste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect (my  husband is from WV), I understand the economic realities of acknowleging the existence of species which might undermine housing developments, mining etc. That said, many Bigfoot sightings are in remote areas which have no foreseeable economic, etc. value.  Quite simply, I find it hard to believe that DOI or any other federal agency which lives and dies by its federal budget and is starving for publicity would bury (literally) what is arguably the biggest new species discovery in the past century.  Doesn&#8217;t make sense.  I&#8217;m no Pollyanna when it comes to believing the feds keep secrets (I still thing there&#8217;s an alien body or two in  a storage closet at Wright Pat), but this gentleman&#8217;s claims are just too conspiratorial for my taste.</p>
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