YNWA indeed mate.

Interesting pics. Very hard to say what they show but fascinating debate nonetheless.

That’s my number one reason for rolling my eyes at those who have no time for water cryptids. We only get a shot at seeing one, when it’s on the surface (unless you count a handful of odd accounts, like one off of Florida…back in the 40′s or 60′s–can’t remember, when four divers supposedly ran afoul of a sea cryptid), you only get momentary glances usually, and unless you know what you’re looking at (or at least familiar with the usual culprits), it’s hard to make an honest educated guess in a matter of seconds. And as photos usually prove, getting something clear and defining is a realllllll challenge.

Plus you have to take into account the added mayhem of the practical jokers…because it’s pretty easy to play with perception and distance to make things appear bigger and more monstrous than they are.

So, my conclusion…I’d guess some sort of pinniped, but without any real scope of size and distance, it’s a guess…

I honestly don’t see how a leopard seal could be that far from its native habitat and the idea that it is a harbour porpoise is just not on judging by the dentition and jaw on this thing. I magnified the image and it looks like this thing has some sort of indentation where a right nostril could be at the front of the upper snout. The bottom teeth at the front of the lower jaw look pretty sizable as well.

I don’t know what this is and wonder if this is an undiscovered species of pinniped. As for it being a Cadborosaurus, that is a real longshot as it’s in the wrong ocean. A distant relative perhaps, but a Caddy? Probably not.

YNWA to all Reds in Liverpool.

Elephant seal in the water. Not Mersey creature, not in the same range, but awfully odd.

Let’s invite the photographer to supply a link to the full frame pictures with embedded data before wasting any more time on this.

Likely though as the Sea Watch gentlemen said it is probably one of the usual visitors to the area, if you all remember the Albert Dock in Liverpool on the other side of the river has what looks to be a Basking Shark in the dock on Google Earth. However if ‘Nessie type’ sea serpents have been seen in bays and coastal river moths all over the country; then why not ours?

I know at Cryptomundo you like to post old stories, there have been a number of reports in the Victorian period of mystery creatures in both rivers that run either side of Wirral. On the Dee estuary side there have been tales of encounters on land with giant crabs.

Like other opinions here; the images in the two photos are so lacking in Harbour porpoise characteristics that this sea creature seems altogether different; infact alien in comparison!

It’s refreshing (like an antidote) to read other bloggers here countering the Sea Watch Foundation’s seemingly blind pronouncement.

Basking shark? …I’ve watched basking sharks off the Cornish coast for hours at a time over the years, all I’m going to say is that I’ve never seen a Basking shark hold it’s head vertically out of the water (think of it’s body position in doing so). I thought ’big fish’ like the basking shark had to keep moving forward to allow water to flow through their gills in order to maintain their oxygen intake? I don’t seem to recall Basking sharks being solitary either, they move in and ‘hoover’ up the food in numbers, whether that‘s two, three or forty three.

Here’s hoping; that if it’s away from it’s home range and lost, it might skulk around in coastal waters for a while, so their could be a chance of someone capturing it (on film) once more!

Never tried to include a picture before so I hope this works:

That said, I’m wondering if the bottom photograph actually is an open mouth as it appears to be – maybe a head and a flipper caught at an odd angle? Hard to say.