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	<title>Comments on: Kentucky Bigfoot Video Lawsuit</title>
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		<title>By: LAShiel</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22866</link>
		<dc:creator>LAShiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a writer and partner in a publishing company, I see the real issue here as the confusion about what constitutes fair use and what copyright protections cover. Most people do not understand these issues, and rather simple matters end up in court. Everyone should keep in mind that whatever you write--from an email to a full-fledged book--is copyrighted from the moment you write or type it. The same goes for videos and other media. Fair use remains a gray area which the courts must constantly redefine and police.

I've seen people post articles from other people's blogs in their entirety on their own sites, without saying where they got it or whether they had permission to use it. Simply saying Joe Blow wrote this article is not enough--even providing a link to Joe Blow's website may not be enough.

I'm not commenting on this case in particular, but on the issue as a whole. We would all do well to err on the side of caution when it comes to other people's intellectual property.

Sincerely,
Lisa A. Shiel
Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC
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Michigan Upper Peninsula Bigfoot Organization</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a writer and partner in a publishing company, I see the real issue here as the confusion about what constitutes fair use and what copyright protections cover. Most people do not understand these issues, and rather simple matters end up in court. Everyone should keep in mind that whatever you write&#8211;from an email to a full-fledged book&#8211;is copyrighted from the moment you write or type it. The same goes for videos and other media. Fair use remains a gray area which the courts must constantly redefine and police.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen people post articles from other people&#8217;s blogs in their entirety on their own sites, without saying where they got it or whether they had permission to use it. Simply saying Joe Blow wrote this article is not enough&#8211;even providing a link to Joe Blow&#8217;s website may not be enough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not commenting on this case in particular, but on the issue as a whole. We would all do well to err on the side of caution when it comes to other people&#8217;s intellectual property.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Lisa A. Shiel<br />
Slipdown Mountain Publications LLC<br />
&#038;<br />
Michigan Upper Peninsula Bigfoot Organization</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22865</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn shame.

They got a pretty good website too, and apparently some good field people.

Sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn shame.</p>
<p>They got a pretty good website too, and apparently some good field people.</p>
<p>Sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptik</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22864</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's just not mention him anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just not mention him anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: rifleman</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22863</link>
		<dc:creator>rifleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the BFRO?

 I liked it better when it was  a non profit research organization.

The BFRO seems to have spawned into a travel and tourism company only interested in promoting camping trips for paying customers.

The bottom line for the organization seems to have changed from proving the existence of Bigfoot to the financial profit of a certain individual.

To make the observation that the footage shown on this site was the "real deal" is not only laughable but should be criminal.  It seems that the person making that remark is not  looking for the real deal, he is looking for the "right deal."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the BFRO?</p>
<p> I liked it better when it was  a non profit research organization.</p>
<p>The BFRO seems to have spawned into a travel and tourism company only interested in promoting camping trips for paying customers.</p>
<p>The bottom line for the organization seems to have changed from proving the existence of Bigfoot to the financial profit of a certain individual.</p>
<p>To make the observation that the footage shown on this site was the &#8220;real deal&#8221; is not only laughable but should be criminal.  It seems that the person making that remark is not  looking for the real deal, he is looking for the &#8220;right deal.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22862</link>
		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful what you wish for, Mike Smith, you never know how far someone's willing to take things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful what you wish for, Mike Smith, you never know how far someone&#8217;s willing to take things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy_Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22854</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy_Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can all understand, and appreciate, the reasons for not wanting the locations and individuals involved revealed. I mean, no one wants to have legitimate research ruined because one joker comes in one night and hoaxes, throwing the whole investigation into question and/or contaminating legitimate evidence. After all, if we REALLY want to be scientific (and we do) we need to maintain some controls.

But part of that being scientific is opening things up to peer review. Sharing it. Chewing on it. THEN publishing/presenting it. Sometimes this can take years. And, then, after it has withstood those years of probing by a number of individuals. Then you get to stand up and say "I did it". "I was one of them." And guess what? You'll get your book deals then. You'll get your spots on Leno and Letterman. You'll get way more than a bunch of geeks talking about you on the internet.

And you'll get your filthy lucre.

This, for all its warts, and its compatriot sites out there in the ether, are the closest thing to peer review journals this field has at the moment. All you have to do, if you have the legitimate, definitive proof, is be patient, and everything else that comes from being involved in such a momentous discovery will come to you.

The rest of the folks will be satisfied that they weren't seeing things. That they didn't dream it. Or satisfied with their small role in shedding light into the depths of our own ignorance. With knowing, and protecting, another of God's creatures. The other seekers, the other hunters, they'll be relegated to footnotes. You'll get your 15 minutes and be as forgotten as the man who discovered the mountain gorilla to everyone but the cryptozoology geeks and forteana aficionados who got the whole ball rolling. Such is the way of things, and most folks wouldn't fight that.

That is, unless you're just out to drag things out. To profit off the mystery. Then you might be more defensive. Maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all understand, and appreciate, the reasons for not wanting the locations and individuals involved revealed. I mean, no one wants to have legitimate research ruined because one joker comes in one night and hoaxes, throwing the whole investigation into question and/or contaminating legitimate evidence. After all, if we REALLY want to be scientific (and we do) we need to maintain some controls.</p>
<p>But part of that being scientific is opening things up to peer review. Sharing it. Chewing on it. THEN publishing/presenting it. Sometimes this can take years. And, then, after it has withstood those years of probing by a number of individuals. Then you get to stand up and say &#8220;I did it&#8221;. &#8220;I was one of them.&#8221; And guess what? You&#8217;ll get your book deals then. You&#8217;ll get your spots on Leno and Letterman. You&#8217;ll get way more than a bunch of geeks talking about you on the internet.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ll get your filthy lucre.</p>
<p>This, for all its warts, and its compatriot sites out there in the ether, are the closest thing to peer review journals this field has at the moment. All you have to do, if you have the legitimate, definitive proof, is be patient, and everything else that comes from being involved in such a momentous discovery will come to you.</p>
<p>The rest of the folks will be satisfied that they weren&#8217;t seeing things. That they didn&#8217;t dream it. Or satisfied with their small role in shedding light into the depths of our own ignorance. With knowing, and protecting, another of God&#8217;s creatures. The other seekers, the other hunters, they&#8217;ll be relegated to footnotes. You&#8217;ll get your 15 minutes and be as forgotten as the man who discovered the mountain gorilla to everyone but the cryptozoology geeks and forteana aficionados who got the whole ball rolling. Such is the way of things, and most folks wouldn&#8217;t fight that.</p>
<p>That is, unless you&#8217;re just out to drag things out. To profit off the mystery. Then you might be more defensive. Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: joppa</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22861</link>
		<dc:creator>joppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Craig, just professional curiosity. The pleadings I have read are interesting and have made for amusing water cooler talk in our local legal circles.

The location of the pancake fiasco is pretty much an open secret on the web. Biscardi sure spent some time trying to chase it down.

I have wondered if the video actually depicts some homeless or mentally ill person who is being made sport of. I hope not, but the squabble it has caused leads me to believe that someone is worried about being exposed for fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Craig, just professional curiosity. The pleadings I have read are interesting and have made for amusing water cooler talk in our local legal circles.</p>
<p>The location of the pancake fiasco is pretty much an open secret on the web. Biscardi sure spent some time trying to chase it down.</p>
<p>I have wondered if the video actually depicts some homeless or mentally ill person who is being made sport of. I hope not, but the squabble it has caused leads me to believe that someone is worried about being exposed for fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22860</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw it, it looked fake to me. Sue me!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: raisinsofwrath</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22859</link>
		<dc:creator>raisinsofwrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they are concerned that "the real deal" might come under too much scrutiny.

Obviously they are going to get favorable feedback from their own members at the BFRO but after reading real and unbiased opinions here they could have gotten spooked.

It all sounds frivolous to me and I can't see where Craig has done anything wrong.

Sounds like a ploy to control and perpetuate another hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they are concerned that &#8220;the real deal&#8221; might come under too much scrutiny.</p>
<p>Obviously they are going to get favorable feedback from their own members at the BFRO but after reading real and unbiased opinions here they could have gotten spooked.</p>
<p>It all sounds frivolous to me and I can&#8217;t see where Craig has done anything wrong.</p>
<p>Sounds like a ploy to control and perpetuate another hoax.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Woolheater</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/lawsuit1/#comment-22858</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Woolheater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joppa,

The settlement agreement was NOT confidential. While the other side pushed for this, we did not agree to it. We did agree to not disclose any of the confidential information regarding the video, such as the location it was filmed or the people involved, other than Moneymaker and Erickson. We agreed not to post THE settlement agreement online. I can discuss it and even paraphrase, but not quote it.

As far as the confidential information regarding the location and individuals involved, that information is all public record. You just have to know where to look. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joppa,</p>
<p>The settlement agreement was NOT confidential. While the other side pushed for this, we did not agree to it. We did agree to not disclose any of the confidential information regarding the video, such as the location it was filmed or the people involved, other than Moneymaker and Erickson. We agreed not to post THE settlement agreement online. I can discuss it and even paraphrase, but not quote it.</p>
<p>As far as the confidential information regarding the location and individuals involved, that information is all public record. You just have to know where to look. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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