Leaks, rumors, and speculations do the field no good. Proof and firm scientific findings will.

As has been stated before, multiple results discussing a link to human DNA in a “Bigfoot” sample could be caused by faulty collection techniques that introduced human skin or hair cells into the samples.

We need more that leaks.

Too many details. I don’t buy the logger conspiracy theory. If they’ve been knocking off Bigfoots for as long as they would have needed to, somebody would have yapped by now–human beings are just not known for their ability to keep anything a secret for very long. It’s too neat and easy.

That dog doesn’t hunt, but that’s not what happened. He shot it, it ran off into the woods and supposedly chased there are some point while two younger ones came at the hunter as if to attack him. There isn’t a person in this world who wouldn’t run in that situation.

Cernovog implies that if bigfoot DNA samples are not on the Genbank data base they will not have much impact. Not true, first of all they should be put on the database without a body but with an identity based on what the analysis shows and what correspondences are shown, such as probably, it is a large primate etc. With a description of what is known of it and what correspondences it has with homo sapien etc. It would not be traditional to do this I know but untill a few years ago DNA was not traditional either and DNA has assumed such huge importance and value with knowledge increasing every day.

Even if DNA results are not added to the DNA database the fact of the matter would be to put the finishing touches to the already comprehensive matrix of evidence for the reality of bigfoot and by association similar manimals. The evidence is there for bigfoot but its a little different from other new disoveries because it is so hard to believe and no body is apparently available at this point. I don’t understand what a bit of bigfoot flesh is doing laying about in the wood (terminator like)?

Whole planets are described without quibble from scientists on the basis of a faint wobble in a point of distant light. Bigfoot has a much greater evidence base!

It is important to establish bigfoot as a reality not only for fascinating and useful knowledge but so it could be protected and conserved.

Sorry, but that dog don’t hunt.

I do, however, have one response to the comments of Greg102, above. The notion that someone such as the shooter in this story would never leave the body because he “…would be a millionaire overnight…” is simply not realistic.

A lone hunter who did not previously believe that sasquatch was anything other than a myth, who then encountered one and shot it – either under threat of attack or by mistaken identity – would most likely be in a state of shock, AND quite likely scared ****less. From his point of view – that of an “unbeliever” – he would have either (a) just committed murder/manslaughter under VERY strange conditions, or (b) just killed a monster.

In either case the urge to retreat would probably be overwhelming. All sense of being in control of the situation would dissipate quickly. At the very least, the sense of “something strange is going on here and I have NO IDEA what it is” would become overwhelming.

And if his response is (b), well, when confronted with the reality of monsters, even a big, burly, well-armed man would most likely have a hard time not pissing himself. Remember, this is someone who “doesn’t believe” in such things. This isn’t someone who follows these blogs and message boards, or has a clue about rewards, much less the hope for “scientific studies.”

So this story – as opposed to the first version – seems entirely plausible.

But plausibility doesn’t make it true.

The 1000 bear claim was the result of a casual discussion about tracking and hunting bears. Lindsay used the wrong word because he misheard the source. He did not kill 1000 bears. However Lindsay doesn’t wish to reveal the correct word because he fears it will reveal his sources profession and ultimately his identity.

The other issue I have with the 1000 bear claim is that a lot of people are attributing it to the wrong person. The person who “killed” the two Bigfoot never made the 1000 bear claim. How could he? He’s not Lindsay’s source. Lindsay never interviewed the BF “shooter.” The source made the 1000 bear claim to illustrate his own expertise. If you read the paraphrased transcript to the conversation, the source is clearly saying it about himself and not the BF shooter.

So to sum up:

1. The 1000 bear claim was a casual boast.

2. The word “Killed” should not have been used. Lindsay misheard the source during the course of a 2.5 hour conversation. Now knowing what the source said, Lindsay cannot make a correction because it would reveal too much about his source. For all we know, the source hugged a 1000 bears. I noticed today that the 1000 bear claim has been removed from the original posting.

3. The “killing” of 1000 bears was incorrectly attributed to the guy who “killed” the two Bigfoot somewhere along the line when that was not stated in the posted transcript.

I have no dog in this hunt. I don’t know if the original story is true or not. I don’t even know Lindsay. I’m just relaying the information Lindsay shared with me at his request.

Shades of Erik Beckjord with bear/baboon-like prognathism? (grin) .. I take it the trapper meant “halfway between a bear and an ape” due to the long “bear-like” hair appearance in contrast to the short hair appearance of most of the African apes. Even homo erectus was not baboon muzzled nor the Russian claimed photo of an Almas which was bit Australopithecene appearing.

All the reports I’ve ran across indicate a different conclusion than “Mr. Thousand Bears”, that while yes, these widely diverse various Genus, species & haywire polluted gene pool hybrids are routinely shot at, rarely but for a handful of examples are they ever actually killed within even one days tracking of any sort of a blood trail due to being larger and far stronger with far “harder”, tougher musculature, sinews & bones than bears which usually wimp out, cry & lack stamina & try to flee when mortally wounded. Most of the reports indicate catastrophic bullet failure under the skin in the “rock hard’ outer musculature layers of all standard soft lead & expanding bullets before the bullet can penetrate thru to destroy the vitals .. that is your typical elk & bear loads that a North American hunter would carry. These adult creatures (particularly the “True Giants”) require, unless a lucky shot, African “Bull Elephant” safari rounds. Otherwise most reports indicate they just go running into the woods yelling in pain when shot. Traveling over many miles of mountain ranges & swimming rivers in a single day foraging builds tremendous muscle tone compared to sedentary African apes trapped in a jungle canopy lb for lb wise.

As far as one DNA targeted sequence indicating at some point of maternal ancestry a homo sapiens parentage, what would one expect? Captured male Native Americans or Caucasian hikers or hunters would have been kept for food larder & wouldn’t have been raping female “Bigfoots”. On the other hand Native American females & female European & African Americans over the centuries are reported to be raped & given birth before expiring thru deprivations & successive Winter exposure or as food larder. All African & Asian apes are aroused by human females. What is needed is full specimens because whatever native Himalayian, Indian subcontinent, Vietnamese, Chinese bipedal tendency giant apes crossed the Bering Land Bridge with the rest of the megafauna, that DNA is so contaminated with human female DNA & escaped Orangutan & Chimpanzee DNA from American 19th century circuses & released exotics that the samples even if uncontaminated should give wide ranging in results. Fred Bear of Fred Bear Archery fame was allegedly informed by contacts at the Smithsonian (grin) that decades ago they were aware of half a dozen bipedals, but none were closer to homo sapiens than one (from Russia?) which was getting close to maybe a homo eructus type.