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		<title>By: Jeremy_Wells</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/canine-killer/#comment-17601</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldbutnotstupid:

Interesting point about the deer. I've heard tales that a deer can disembowel a man with, not the antlers, but the sharp edge of the hoof. I always took them to be about half 'old wive's tale' (with some basis in fact), because I know I wouldn't want to suffer a kick from a deer, threat of disemboweling or no, and that is why I was always taught to approach a downed deer in a way that kept the antlers and the hooves away from you and to touch its eye with a twig/arrow/tip of your gun to be sure it was truly dead before trying to gut it.

The giant beaver theory is interesting too. The disemboweled, but not eaten, nature would seem to indicate threat killing over predation, but one never knows. I hope we hear more on this.</description>
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<p>Interesting point about the deer. I&#8217;ve heard tales that a deer can disembowel a man with, not the antlers, but the sharp edge of the hoof. I always took them to be about half &#8216;old wive&#8217;s tale&#8217; (with some basis in fact), because I know I wouldn&#8217;t want to suffer a kick from a deer, threat of disemboweling or no, and that is why I was always taught to approach a downed deer in a way that kept the antlers and the hooves away from you and to touch its eye with a twig/arrow/tip of your gun to be sure it was truly dead before trying to gut it.</p>
<p>The giant beaver theory is interesting too. The disemboweled, but not eaten, nature would seem to indicate threat killing over predation, but one never knows. I hope we hear more on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozone</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/canine-killer/#comment-17600</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 02:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't heard of any specific reports out of Reindeer Lake of strange sightings. However this lake is in a different district than the one I worked in. The only lake monster I've ever heard of in Manitoba is "Manipogo" in Lake Manitoba/Lake Winnipegosis.

Nothing in the local media so far either, but you won't find much "investigative journalism" up here anyway... the papers basically echo what is written elsewhere.

Another point I should have made in the previous post is that in light of the Sasquatch video out of Norway House last year (it was shown on a tabloid TV show in the US), many northern communities have become envious and are wont to attribute strange occurances to paranomal explanations. Superstition/traditional beliefs are also powerful motivators in certain communities.

Depending on the quality of the observer, "strange sightings" on the lake could be all sorts of things, from caribou swimming, to deadhead logs, etc. I wonder how many "sightings" there were prior to the discovery of the dogs, or if people started looking for "strange" things after the mysterious dog deaths.

I guess it is pretty strange though. We need more info, but I doubt you'll hear any follow up reports. Someone from Cryptomundo should book a fishing trip to Lac Brochet and do a follow up! (Not me, this is a shameless tourism plug for N. MB)

Take care all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard of any specific reports out of Reindeer Lake of strange sightings. However this lake is in a different district than the one I worked in. The only lake monster I&#8217;ve ever heard of in Manitoba is &#8220;Manipogo&#8221; in Lake Manitoba/Lake Winnipegosis.</p>
<p>Nothing in the local media so far either, but you won&#8217;t find much &#8220;investigative journalism&#8221; up here anyway&#8230; the papers basically echo what is written elsewhere.</p>
<p>Another point I should have made in the previous post is that in light of the Sasquatch video out of Norway House last year (it was shown on a tabloid TV show in the US), many northern communities have become envious and are wont to attribute strange occurances to paranomal explanations. Superstition/traditional beliefs are also powerful motivators in certain communities.</p>
<p>Depending on the quality of the observer, &#8220;strange sightings&#8221; on the lake could be all sorts of things, from caribou swimming, to deadhead logs, etc. I wonder how many &#8220;sightings&#8221; there were prior to the discovery of the dogs, or if people started looking for &#8220;strange&#8221; things after the mysterious dog deaths.</p>
<p>I guess it is pretty strange though. We need more info, but I doubt you&#8217;ll hear any follow up reports. Someone from Cryptomundo should book a fishing trip to Lac Brochet and do a follow up! (Not me, this is a shameless tourism plug for N. MB)</p>
<p>Take care all.</p>
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		<title>By: crypto_randz</title>
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		<dc:creator>crypto_randz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strong points ozone and shovethenos, great information. I'll accept the zeuglodon that was another possibility for ogopogo sightings. The long neck sightings are interesting, maybe more than one specie in that body of water? If you take a look at some of these lakes they almost look prehistoric settings, I mean the background, just look at Rattlesnake Island. They claim thats the lair of the ogopogo. Reindeer Lake must have a cryptid living there, anything is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strong points ozone and shovethenos, great information. I&#8217;ll accept the zeuglodon that was another possibility for ogopogo sightings. The long neck sightings are interesting, maybe more than one specie in that body of water? If you take a look at some of these lakes they almost look prehistoric settings, I mean the background, just look at Rattlesnake Island. They claim thats the lair of the ogopogo. Reindeer Lake must have a cryptid living there, anything is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: shovethenos</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/canine-killer/#comment-17572</link>
		<dc:creator>shovethenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 04:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ozone-

Thanks for commenting, especially due to your experience with the area.

Are you familiar with sightings of possibly unknown animals in Reindeer Lake? If so, how often do they occur and what do the witnesses report?

Also, do you happen to have any more information from the local media - where the dogs were found, were they part of the same team, were the bodies found together, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ozone-</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting, especially due to your experience with the area.</p>
<p>Are you familiar with sightings of possibly unknown animals in Reindeer Lake? If so, how often do they occur and what do the witnesses report?</p>
<p>Also, do you happen to have any more information from the local media - where the dogs were found, were they part of the same team, were the bodies found together, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: Ozone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked for Manitoba Natural Resources in Northern Manitoba in the past, I can offer some suggestions/comments here:

1. There was a confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear near Thompson, MB about 8 years ago.

2. These were sled dogs. Often these dogs are tied up and have their own individual dog houses. And there are usually a lot more than 3 sled dogs. They make lots of noise when something is around. Often targets of wolves, which is why they are sometimes kept on islands.

3. Probably not a cougar. It would be staying as far away from a bunch of sled dogs as possible. Not to mention they don't range that far West or North (however see #1).

4. It doesn't take long for scavengers (ravens, crows, magpies, various small mammals) to completely remove the internal organs of a dead animal. 3 days and the maggots/beetles will have it all cleaned out regardless.

5. Re: Female Caribou. Woodland caribou females are now with calf, and tend to stay on islands in the summer to protect against wolves. Facing 3 dogs, she would probably take to the water and swim away, but it's still a plausible theory. Antlers are still growing at this time of year I think.

6. Wolves like to tear stuff to shreds, from what I've seen of wolf kill sites.

7. twblack wrote: "I just do not know maybe a sick person out their getting even with the owner."

This is the most probable explanation.

8. Need more info here before anything can be said with certainty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked for Manitoba Natural Resources in Northern Manitoba in the past, I can offer some suggestions/comments here:</p>
<p>1. There was a confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear near Thompson, MB about 8 years ago.</p>
<p>2. These were sled dogs. Often these dogs are tied up and have their own individual dog houses. And there are usually a lot more than 3 sled dogs. They make lots of noise when something is around. Often targets of wolves, which is why they are sometimes kept on islands.</p>
<p>3. Probably not a cougar. It would be staying as far away from a bunch of sled dogs as possible. Not to mention they don&#8217;t range that far West or North (however see #1).</p>
<p>4. It doesn&#8217;t take long for scavengers (ravens, crows, magpies, various small mammals) to completely remove the internal organs of a dead animal. 3 days and the maggots/beetles will have it all cleaned out regardless.</p>
<p>5. Re: Female Caribou. Woodland caribou females are now with calf, and tend to stay on islands in the summer to protect against wolves. Facing 3 dogs, she would probably take to the water and swim away, but it&#8217;s still a plausible theory. Antlers are still growing at this time of year I think.</p>
<p>6. Wolves like to tear stuff to shreds, from what I&#8217;ve seen of wolf kill sites.</p>
<p>7. twblack wrote: &#8220;I just do not know maybe a sick person out their getting even with the owner.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the most probable explanation.</p>
<p>8. Need more info here before anything can be said with certainty.</p>
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		<title>By: shovethenos</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple points-

-I think the "eats the livers and leaves the rest" stories about Bigfoot are mainly from accounts and deer carcasses in OH.

-Caribou lose their antlers every year, but apparently some females don't lose them until the summer. But then reindeers supposedly don't make it to Reindeer Lake anymore.

-The Ogopogo sightings are all over the map concerning what it allegedly is. There are some theories that alleged it is a "cadbosaurus" and some that allege it is a beaked or archaic whale like a zeuglodon. But there are supposedly some "long necked" sightings as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple points-</p>
<p>-I think the &#8220;eats the livers and leaves the rest&#8221; stories about Bigfoot are mainly from accounts and deer carcasses in OH.</p>
<p>-Caribou lose their antlers every year, but apparently some females don&#8217;t lose them until the summer. But then reindeers supposedly don&#8217;t make it to Reindeer Lake anymore.</p>
<p>-The Ogopogo sightings are all over the map concerning what it allegedly is. There are some theories that alleged it is a &#8220;cadbosaurus&#8221; and some that allege it is a beaked or archaic whale like a zeuglodon. But there are supposedly some &#8220;long necked&#8221; sightings as well.</p>
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		<title>By: crypto_randz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mnynames, it was just an opinion because this story was just a little hard one to have a good solution. The MOSAURUS theory I gave was probably too much to ask for. I was hoping it would be, it would be a great find. I know in LAKE OKANAGAN there's little speculation that the ogopogo is maybe a MOSAURS maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mnynames, it was just an opinion because this story was just a little hard one to have a good solution. The MOSAURUS theory I gave was probably too much to ask for. I was hoping it would be, it would be a great find. I know in LAKE OKANAGAN there&#8217;s little speculation that the ogopogo is maybe a MOSAURS maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: oldbutnotstupid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not going to say much on this , but don't underestimate the power of a caribou's antlers. Dogs not eaten and nicely gutted.   Sounds like a cornered female caribou to me. Don't believe me, ask a northern native about just how dangerous one of these animals can be. Especally if it were wounded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not going to say much on this , but don&#8217;t underestimate the power of a caribou&#8217;s antlers. Dogs not eaten and nicely gutted.   Sounds like a cornered female caribou to me. Don&#8217;t believe me, ask a northern native about just how dangerous one of these animals can be. Especally if it were wounded.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnynames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnynames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, crypto_randz, but I find your logic a tad simplistic.  Lots of animals can tear their prey apart, it is by no means and in no way an exclusive reptilian trait.  The leap from mutilated dogs to living Mosasaurs is one I don't think even Evel Knievel could make...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, crypto_randz, but I find your logic a tad simplistic.  Lots of animals can tear their prey apart, it is by no means and in no way an exclusive reptilian trait.  The leap from mutilated dogs to living Mosasaurs is one I don&#8217;t think even Evel Knievel could make&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shumway10973</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just because they were gutted doesn't mean that we are necessarily talking cryptid.  Mountain lions usually, if they feel they have the time, will eat the heart of a deer first.  If whatever enjoys the intestinal tract, then why not? How long did they say the dog was missing? Was anything else gone? I'm thinking that a cougar, wolverine, wolf, etc... could have killed it and then something in the same niche as opossums could have done away with the intestines.  Yes, most people don't know this, but the opossum wanders thru dead animals to eat whatever it can, but would rather have the intestines.

Loren, we need more info if we are going to come up with the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because they were gutted doesn&#8217;t mean that we are necessarily talking cryptid.  Mountain lions usually, if they feel they have the time, will eat the heart of a deer first.  If whatever enjoys the intestinal tract, then why not? How long did they say the dog was missing? Was anything else gone? I&#8217;m thinking that a cougar, wolverine, wolf, etc&#8230; could have killed it and then something in the same niche as opossums could have done away with the intestines.  Yes, most people don&#8217;t know this, but the opossum wanders thru dead animals to eat whatever it can, but would rather have the intestines.</p>
<p>Loren, we need more info if we are going to come up with the answer.</p>
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