That’s what I mean by “what I see too often” around here. It’s either proof, or NOTHING. No one seems capable of accepting that something that isn’t proof, might be evidence. Why have jurisprudence and mainstream zoology figured this out, while crypto seems to keep stumbling on it? (Maybe because mainstream zoologists abandon everything science has taught them when it comes to crypto topics? Dunno, but it’s a thought.)

Wanna know why we’re still going around the mulberry bush on this? It’s because everybody debates inconclusive evidence ad nauseam, while waiting for a body to turn up. Which, gotta bust a bubble here, it probably won’t. Yes, it’s happened (the megamouth shark; the coelacanth). But you better not be betting on it.

Meanwhile, lots and lots of people are seeing something. It’s leaving all kinds of evidence, in fact every kind we know gets left by an animal. Problem? Nobody follows the evidence. They keep waiting for a body, all the time saying stuff like “a simple sighting is not proof of any kind. It is just a personal experience, nothing more.” Tell me something I don’t know. A friend of mine has a sighting. I see no reason to doubt him; but I don’t consider the sas proven yet. Because that’s not adequate for me. A geographic and temporal cluster of sightings, though, most certainly is evidence; and it suggests not only possible search strategies, but where to look.

There’s an assertion here that wood-knocking isn’t. I have provided a firm counter-assertion, by someone who saw it happening. No proof, either way. Barackman’s assertion really has no evidence backing it up. He’s never seen a bigfoot clapping its hands, am I right?

When it comes to wood knocking… Just because you hear something like it doesn’t mean it is a bigfoot.

I’m just seeing here what I see too often when it comes to this topic: assertions and counter-assertions going on with no reference to the evidence. Sightings are not proof, but they are evidence. No more reason to disbelieve this guy than to believe him.

(And if it looks like a wood knock; sounds like a wood knock; and happens in the woods, it just might be a wood knock.)

Um, by whom? Who’s the referee?

Nothing relies on observation to make it real. If it’s real, it’s real whether or not it’s observed.

There is at least one eyewitness report of wood-knocking.

It may not be the source of all such sounds reported; and other apes do use hand-clapping to communicate. But it’s been observed.

If this guy’s telling the truth, of course.

I heard it again, and it seemed closer this time. At this point I must admit it was starting to freak me out a little, because it didn’t sound like it was being done by any small desert animal or bird. I continued to listen, even more intently and curious.

Then all of a sudden, a short time later, a VERY LOUD noise close by, this time very close, of again what distinctly sounded like a large rock being SMASHED against a tree with a great deal of force used, and it was done three times in quick succession! BOOM BOOM BOOM. You can imagine how this would make me feel, being in a tent in the pitch darkness in the middle of the Mojave desert, an isolated place. I was scared, I must admit, and I couldn’t find the courage to even go out of the tent because the noise sounded so close to our camp site, and as I said it sounded like someone with a great deal of strength deliberately smashed a large sized rock against a tree trunk, that is exactly what it sounded like. This sound was not done by any woodpecker or small desert animal, it was far too powerful and loud.

I also had the impression that it was done with an intelligence, as I described – the sounds had a progression to them, first being farther away, then coming closer, and then finally sounding as if they were right on top of our campsite. As if letting me know that he/she/it wanted to make me understand it knew we were there in the campsite.

I looked at my friends in the tent and they were all still asleep, being heavy sleepers. I considered whether I should wake them up. I decided to do nothing and see what happened next, rather freaked out as you can imagine. Nothing further was heard. A certain period of time elapsed, maybe ten minutes or so, and I decided it was safe enough that I would get out of the tent and take a look around. Nothing to be seen. I walked around the campsite and all was quiet now. I then returned to my tent and there were no further incidents in the night and I fell asleep. In the morning I told my friends about what had happened. I demonstrated for my friends what it sounded like and picked up a big rock and smashed it hard against a tree three times, and it sounded like what I had heard, but it wasn’t nearly as loud as the sound I had heard in the night.

It was an interesting experience for sure. Do I know for a fact there was a bigfoot in the Mojave desert playing games of some kind or warning us it was in our territory or whatever, of course not, but it was a mystery to me and I couldn’t come up with a normal explanation for what I heard, especially the last very loud and powerful sounds that I heard.

The first knock got me to turn my head about 45 degrees to my left and ready my rifle, about three seconds later the second knock and another second the third knock. Since I was deer hunting my inital thought was “wow something big is coming in!” the second knock allowed me to zero in on the source direction and wonder what could make that noise.

I’ve watched many woodpeckers from that treestand and saw none that morning. Pilated woodpeckers are big and easy to see in flight between trees, the temps were well above freezing so I rule out snapping that can take place in frozen trees. I saw no other hunters that morning in fact that year was the only time I had ever seen another hunter form that stand, a week and a half earlier. I talked to him and he was the only person actually living year round on this part of the lake. There are no roads that lead to these cabins so travel is restricted to boat, snowmobile when the lake freezes or a 4 wheeler trail he had made deeper in the woods. I had heard a boat start and travel across the lake a few hours before from where his home was, so I figured it was him going to work.

Anyone would be a fool to be in the woods and not to be wearing orange as mandated by law during deer hunting season. Whatever made the noise never broke the cover of the thick pine trees and brush in that direction nor made any other noise I could hear.

Its proof of nothing I know, but its the strangest sound I’ve ever heard in the woods. Back at work the next week a co-worker told me he heard a noise like “monkeys in the zoo” in the pre-dawn within a few days of my “knocks”, he hunts 15 miles south of where I was. He had never heard that before or since, and he was many thousands of hours of hunting and trapping in northern Minnesota.

I describe the knocks I heard as being wood upon wood, or that of a baseball on a bat, but deeper in tone and a bit longer in resonance. Rocks are plentiful in this area of the Canadian Shield.

And we are working on the ‘assumption’ here (given the question) that it is Bigfoot making this noise. The question was ‘how’ I brought up ‘why’.

It is hypothetical question and all we are doing is giving answers based on the hypothetical. If x is true and y is true; what does x+y mean. No one is claiming proof that this is what is actually going on, consider it a mental exercise.

@ Redrose999. Both FireFox and Chrome have in-browser spell checks. It will underline words in red so it would make it easier than writing it on a notepad and c&p it here. They are both also much faster and safer than IE