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		<title>By: bootpdx</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24496</link>
		<dc:creator>bootpdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very compelling comments. Sasgirl- I am sorry you had to find out the hard way that the BFRO is a total sham. What LAteNightVisitor doesn't quite grasp in his post "4. $300 is different for anybody, but I find it reasonable, and would spend just as much more camping somewhere on my own."  is that BFRO doesn't provide you with the camping equipment you need. So, in addition to paying $300 PER PERSON, you also have to provide your own transportation, food, camping gear, etc.

It is widely known that this money goes directly into MM's bank account. It is also widely known that if you charge a fee to lead a group of people anywhere, you must have a guides license or something similar. I recall the Forest Service being very upset that MM was charging to lead these expeds on FS lands and he does not have the appropriate licensing to do so. Giovarist- if MM is a tour guide then he should get licensed as such.

I was a member of the BFRO's website until I shared my opinion that I would never attend a expedition because of all the variables. JJohnston summed up my feelings exactly on this subject. When I asked a question about where the fees go my membership was revoked. Sorry, but if my organization had nothing to hide then I would not be booting people for asking questions.

There are many people who have been kicked off the site (no biggy just rejoin under a different name) for asking questions. That sort of hyper-defensiveness doesn't sit well with me.

The frequency of sightings/evidence is a very good point that I had not thought of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very compelling comments. Sasgirl- I am sorry you had to find out the hard way that the BFRO is a total sham. What LAteNightVisitor doesn&#8217;t quite grasp in his post &#8220;4. $300 is different for anybody, but I find it reasonable, and would spend just as much more camping somewhere on my own.&#8221;  is that BFRO doesn&#8217;t provide you with the camping equipment you need. So, in addition to paying $300 PER PERSON, you also have to provide your own transportation, food, camping gear, etc.</p>
<p>It is widely known that this money goes directly into MM&#8217;s bank account. It is also widely known that if you charge a fee to lead a group of people anywhere, you must have a guides license or something similar. I recall the Forest Service being very upset that MM was charging to lead these expeds on FS lands and he does not have the appropriate licensing to do so. Giovarist- if MM is a tour guide then he should get licensed as such.</p>
<p>I was a member of the BFRO&#8217;s website until I shared my opinion that I would never attend a expedition because of all the variables. JJohnston summed up my feelings exactly on this subject. When I asked a question about where the fees go my membership was revoked. Sorry, but if my organization had nothing to hide then I would not be booting people for asking questions.</p>
<p>There are many people who have been kicked off the site (no biggy just rejoin under a different name) for asking questions. That sort of hyper-defensiveness doesn&#8217;t sit well with me.</p>
<p>The frequency of sightings/evidence is a very good point that I had not thought of.</p>
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		<title>By: SasGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24495</link>
		<dc:creator>SasGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I was one of those people whom wasted my money on a MM expedition. What is unfortunate is that most of the people on the expedition definitely were far from physically fit, and claim to be a bigfoot researchers... "from their living room couch" to top it off they wanted so badly to see or hear something that every foot print or sound they heard at night was bigfoot in their minds.

I have been interested in sasquatch since the 70's growing up and watching and collecting every movie and documentary on Sasquatch. I must say I have a lot of doubt in MM's expeditions being credible.

How is it that they go on an expedition every month and almost everyone has an experience. If that was the case then everyone that goes camping on the weekends would also have experiences. Peter Byrne has spent his entire life 40 years, dedicating his time deep in the woods hunting for bigfoot yet has never actually had an encounter and MM has one every month. Get real, its an insult to the the serious true researchers that actually can call themselves Cryptozoologist or a BF researcher and actually have spent their lives in investigating sasquatch.

All that aside as far as actually hiking through the woods to gather evidence MM biggest worry was who was buying his next meal and telling stories to entertain his followers.

I guess for someone whom has never actually went out in the woods and the depth of their research is on their couch typing in google for latest bigfoot news then carrying a hiking stick and telling scary bigfoot stories around a camp fire would be an expedition.

What I did get out of the expedition was I am much more skeptical about peoples encounters. I could not believe how gullible the people were and how willing they were to exaggerate what they thought they saw or heard. I guess they did not realize I was right there with them and I didn't see a rock being thrown or hear a howling in the woods.

I've been to more remote areas with my girlfriends in high school.

As far as profit, I think MM is laughing his way right to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I was one of those people whom wasted my money on a MM expedition. What is unfortunate is that most of the people on the expedition definitely were far from physically fit, and claim to be a bigfoot researchers&#8230; &#8220;from their living room couch&#8221; to top it off they wanted so badly to see or hear something that every foot print or sound they heard at night was bigfoot in their minds.</p>
<p>I have been interested in sasquatch since the 70&#8217;s growing up and watching and collecting every movie and documentary on Sasquatch. I must say I have a lot of doubt in MM&#8217;s expeditions being credible.</p>
<p>How is it that they go on an expedition every month and almost everyone has an experience. If that was the case then everyone that goes camping on the weekends would also have experiences. Peter Byrne has spent his entire life 40 years, dedicating his time deep in the woods hunting for bigfoot yet has never actually had an encounter and MM has one every month. Get real, its an insult to the the serious true researchers that actually can call themselves Cryptozoologist or a BF researcher and actually have spent their lives in investigating sasquatch.</p>
<p>All that aside as far as actually hiking through the woods to gather evidence MM biggest worry was who was buying his next meal and telling stories to entertain his followers.</p>
<p>I guess for someone whom has never actually went out in the woods and the depth of their research is on their couch typing in google for latest bigfoot news then carrying a hiking stick and telling scary bigfoot stories around a camp fire would be an expedition.</p>
<p>What I did get out of the expedition was I am much more skeptical about peoples encounters. I could not believe how gullible the people were and how willing they were to exaggerate what they thought they saw or heard. I guess they did not realize I was right there with them and I didn&#8217;t see a rock being thrown or hear a howling in the woods.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to more remote areas with my girlfriends in high school.</p>
<p>As far as profit, I think MM is laughing his way right to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: DWA</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24494</link>
		<dc:creator>DWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, this has been funny.  Not really what I'd call enlightening, but hey, funny.

The BFRO still seems to have an up and up website.  Not to say that website can't be hijacked by people with Other Motives.  The website's content seems to stand on the reputations of the researchers out there who have affiliated themselves with the BFRO, and not on the Current Regime.  Or so it appears, at least.

Aaaaanyway:  A single read of this thread should illustrate beyond reasonable doubt the likelihood that anything in the way of "evidence" resulting from a trip like this will ever be taken seriously by anyone whose opinion matters.

Can't hurt to try though, huh?  As the Chinese say, even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, this has been funny.  Not really what I&#8217;d call enlightening, but hey, funny.</p>
<p>The BFRO still seems to have an up and up website.  Not to say that website can&#8217;t be hijacked by people with Other Motives.  The website&#8217;s content seems to stand on the reputations of the researchers out there who have affiliated themselves with the BFRO, and not on the Current Regime.  Or so it appears, at least.</p>
<p>Aaaaanyway:  A single read of this thread should illustrate beyond reasonable doubt the likelihood that anything in the way of &#8220;evidence&#8221; resulting from a trip like this will ever be taken seriously by anyone whose opinion matters.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t hurt to try though, huh?  As the Chinese say, even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then.</p>
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		<title>By: harleyb</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24493</link>
		<dc:creator>harleyb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always someone looking to monopolize off anything they can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always someone looking to monopolize off anything they can.</p>
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		<title>By: Secret_Storm</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24473</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret_Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told by X-BFRO members they saw some kind of suit in the back seat of his car during an expedition then a short time later a sighting came in by someone on his expedition.

The BFRO will not share any of their findings or information with other researchers unless there's $$$

Trust me you would have more fun hiking with friends than hanging out with the BFRO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told by X-BFRO members they saw some kind of suit in the back seat of his car during an expedition then a short time later a sighting came in by someone on his expedition.</p>
<p>The BFRO will not share any of their findings or information with other researchers unless there&#8217;s $$$</p>
<p>Trust me you would have more fun hiking with friends than hanging out with the BFRO.</p>
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		<title>By: rayrich</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24492</link>
		<dc:creator>rayrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been on one of these so called expeditions I have to say Mr. Moneymaker was of no use to us as either a guide or a knowledgeable tracker. He brought along very little in terms of field equipment or even food for that matter, as he mooched off me and others throughout the trip. That is, of course, after he awoke which was around noon or so. My friend and I had hiked probably 5-7 miles of off trail backcountry every morning before he and his little posse even awoke. Much of the evidence we gathered he pretty much stole from us, including pics of tracks, scat among others. He later fabricated our stories to look like others on the trip had discovered and experienced our encounters. I was totally blown away when I had read the expedition notes on his website. I should have expected as much. Truly unbelievable. Also, the guy is not in any shape to hike or trailblaze through any remote areas as he is well overweight and in no shape to do so. He is a control freak and schmoozer, and I guess that makes him a good little entrepreneur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been on one of these so called expeditions I have to say Mr. Moneymaker was of no use to us as either a guide or a knowledgeable tracker. He brought along very little in terms of field equipment or even food for that matter, as he mooched off me and others throughout the trip. That is, of course, after he awoke which was around noon or so. My friend and I had hiked probably 5-7 miles of off trail backcountry every morning before he and his little posse even awoke. Much of the evidence we gathered he pretty much stole from us, including pics of tracks, scat among others. He later fabricated our stories to look like others on the trip had discovered and experienced our encounters. I was totally blown away when I had read the expedition notes on his website. I should have expected as much. Truly unbelievable. Also, the guy is not in any shape to hike or trailblaze through any remote areas as he is well overweight and in no shape to do so. He is a control freak and schmoozer, and I guess that makes him a good little entrepreneur.</p>
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		<title>By: bill green</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24490</link>
		<dc:creator>bill green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey craig &#38; everyone wow i see there is alot news media articles about the michigan bfro expedition today.  i hope the bfro team are safe &#38; ok looking for possible sasquatch evidence etc. this situation about the michigan expedition is getting realy heated pithy etc.  thanks bill green.  im sure the bfro will be cnn msnbc or news networks doing interviews about the michigan expedition. i realy like the above reply regarding this expedition as well. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey craig &amp; everyone wow i see there is alot news media articles about the michigan bfro expedition today.  i hope the bfro team are safe &amp; ok looking for possible sasquatch evidence etc. this situation about the michigan expedition is getting realy heated pithy etc.  thanks bill green.  im sure the bfro will be cnn msnbc or news networks doing interviews about the michigan expedition. i realy like the above reply regarding this expedition as well. <img src='http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Secret_Storm</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24491</link>
		<dc:creator>Secret_Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you even listen to yourself type? "But to judge the actions and interests of others based on opinions, seems wrong". That's what we do... opinions are all we have...

Profiting under the guise of research is wrong…

Just because someone pays to go stumbling through the woods taking blurry pictures or movies does not make them qualified or a researcher…

A lot more field work needs to be done by qualified people not campers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you even listen to yourself type? &#8220;But to judge the actions and interests of others based on opinions, seems wrong&#8221;. That&#8217;s what we do&#8230; opinions are all we have&#8230;</p>
<p>Profiting under the guise of research is wrong…</p>
<p>Just because someone pays to go stumbling through the woods taking blurry pictures or movies does not make them qualified or a researcher…</p>
<p>A lot more field work needs to be done by qualified people not campers.</p>
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		<title>By: cabochris</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24484</link>
		<dc:creator>cabochris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm all for Pay to Hunt for Bigfoot Expeditions, good or bad.  America is a free Country.  If someone wants a canned Bigfoot Expedition, that is their business.  Who has the right to tell them how to spend their time and money?  If one does not like such expeditions, fine, you are not being forced to partake.  But to judge the actions and interests of others based on opinions, seems wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for Pay to Hunt for Bigfoot Expeditions, good or bad.  America is a free Country.  If someone wants a canned Bigfoot Expedition, that is their business.  Who has the right to tell them how to spend their time and money?  If one does not like such expeditions, fine, you are not being forced to partake.  But to judge the actions and interests of others based on opinions, seems wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: bigfooterbob</title>
		<link>http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/big-phony/#comment-24489</link>
		<dc:creator>bigfooterbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one thing that people who research bigfoot must remember about going into the  "bush". Most researchers are very independent and have their own little "click" of researchers they like going into the field with. I think the bfro expeditions work for some people and don't work for others. If some people want to pay to be part of that experience more power to them. The pure researcher wouldn't have the time or the patience for most of us amateurs. I think people are losing track that the goal is find proof that these creatures exist and that they need to be protected as soon as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing that people who research bigfoot must remember about going into the  &#8220;bush&#8221;. Most researchers are very independent and have their own little &#8220;click&#8221; of researchers they like going into the field with. I think the bfro expeditions work for some people and don&#8217;t work for others. If some people want to pay to be part of that experience more power to them. The pure researcher wouldn&#8217;t have the time or the patience for most of us amateurs. I think people are losing track that the goal is find proof that these creatures exist and that they need to be protected as soon as possible.</p>
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