How did he determine that “No one is spending enough time in the woods on the search”. Just because this puzzle has not been solved? In that case medical science as a whole is seriously deficient because cancer has not been eradicated. (How many laymen researchers reading his opinions were polled about the time they spend in the woods.)

And how the heck does he know what the rest of us have been seeing and overlooking?

He is tired of “wild speculations?” Who isn’t!!! So why publish statements that clearly are speculations?

The bottom line is that conclusive DNA evidence will be required to convince the world of science there is in fact such an animal. It is really inmaterial what researchers see, hear or smell. Those are the perks of our volunteer efforts.

As far as the infared lights, most of the illuminators for Camcorders, older night vision scopes and game cameras can can be seen by humans. The plastic laminate mentioned in one of the posts will glow like a red light on a fire truck when used over a bright light source of any kind. Even when used over a small light source like a hand-held flashlight, the red glow is visible for a mile on a dark night.

Just my “speculations”.

And - to repeat an old cliche - where are the bodies? Do they bury their dead? Eat them whole?

My view, Red

To date these magnificent creatures have managed to evade human contact effectively unless contact suits their circumstance…they exhibit sophisticated intelligence and uncommon common sense….hence their reclusivity.

Obviously there is not enough properly funded coordinated field research….

Centuries of interaction have almost certainly given them knowledge of our weapons and our aggression…

Keep up the fine work Craig…we know who you are…

Has anyone ever crunched the numbers to properly fund a comprehensive expedition…let’s have a discussion of the economics of proper scientific field research…from the folks who have the experience and the expertise…

seeing is believing….stay safe this weekend…

ole bub and the dawgs

As far as infrared, there is strong circumstantial evidence that BF is able to detect it. Even if they cannot see it, it may be painful to their incredibly sensative eyes. We can guess all we want and the fact remains that BF hasn’t been fooled by night vision stuff or camera traps. So, it may not be a useful strategy.

i’ve suggested a few other unconventional approaches.

1. Remote trash dumping areas seem to be monitored by BF. There are some reports of people being visited by BF while unloading pickup trucks or dump trucks in remote area. BF may have learned that humans backing up trucks in remote areas usually are delivering lots of goodies to pick thru. The reports i’ve seen indicate that they are often very bold and will come within a few feet.

These have been evening or nighttime accounts mostly. Researchers could easily mimic the activity of illegal dumpers. Rather than trash- acorns, corn, apples or some other food items could by used. If BF do visit, attempts to take still photos can be made, maybe they will be so bold as to tolerate IR video photography.

BF also have been known to visit landfills adjacent to dense forests. These places should mask any human scent so a well placed blind or stand could let researchers monitor such landfills for nightime visits.

BF may also use “lookout posts”. Places were they can monitor animals and human movements with being noticed. If researchers can identify such places, they can better avoid detection by BF and perhaps have an area to zero in on for monitoring.

i think the key will be to understand the habits and ways of BF as much as possible. To read every single BFRO report and digest every other report from the growing number of BF devoted sites will help us better document this creature and settle once and for all whether it exists.

Wayne Hollyoak